Reagan National Arff Team, First Responder Fire Fighting Pentagon Options

[SPreston]

(IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)   Serendipitous Arrival of Reagan National ARFF Team
According to the article, shortly before Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, a Reagan National aircraft rescue fire fighting team was already on the road, attending a car accident on the upper level of Airport Terminal B.  (Aircraft rescue fire fighters don't usually respond to car accidents, of course and there is no mention that the cars involved were on fire.)  The ARFF team had their backs to the Pentagon.  At 9:38 a.m. they heard a dull roar, turned around, and saw the smoke.  The article does not mention how the Reagan National team knew the Pentagon fire was the result of a plane crash; however, they left the airport immediately for the Pentagon, which was three miles away.  They arrived in two or three minutes and put the bulk of the fire out in seven minutes.

Do the math.  The Reagan National team must have arrived at the Pentagon at approximately 9:40 or 9:41 a.m.  If they extinguished the bulk of the fire in seven minutes, the "bulk of the fire" was extinguished at approximately 9:47 a.m. or 9:48 a.m.

What serendipity!  An aircraft rescue fire fighting team, already on the road attending a car accident they normally wouldn't attend, hears a noise, sees smoke, concludes the fire was caused by an aircraft, and gets to the Pentagon in three minutes.  Using foam, they put out the fire in seven minutes! 

This was a fantastic news story.  The Reagan National ARFF team were surely national heroes;  surely we would expect their story to command immediate national media attention.
 
(IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   No Contemporaneous Coverage
But, curiously, the story of their on-the-spot heroism and competence got no media attention whatsoever.  The local Washington, D.C. TV stations, the national TV networks, the Washington Post, the Washington Times, the New York Times, Associated Press, Reuters, Time, Newsweek, US News and World Report, the National Inquirer, etc., all missed the story. 

The DoD photographers on the scene didn't record the Reagan National story on DoD websites; in fact, the photographs (and captions) on official DoD websites showed water being sprayed on the fire.  DoD journalists who wrote stories about the Pentagon fire and rescue didn't record the Reagan National ARFF story either.  Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Hugh Shelton, Army Secretary White, the Arlington four County Fire Chief (who allegedly directed the fire fighting effort) -- none of them mentioned the amazing Reagan National story to news-hungry reporters during their press conferences.

With the nation grief-stricken and reeling over the loss of hundreds of New York firemen, the story of Reagan National ARFF team's heroism and effectiveness would have rallied our spirits.  Their story should have gotten top coverage.
http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/nfpa.html

When a hijacked Boeing 757, skimming the street lights, smashed into the Pentagon on September 11, firefighters at nearby Reagan National Airport were the right responders in the right place with the right equipment.

Being among the first responding fire units, National's aircraft rescue firefighters (ARFF) crews were able to set up their apparatus directly in front of the gaping hole in the Pentagon. That was where their training in fighting aircraft fires and the capability of their foam units to extinguish jet fuel fires were put to the best use.

The ARFF foam units knocked down the bulk of the fire in the first seven minutes after their arrival, said Captain Michael Defina, who was the shift commander that day at National.

"We applied the foam tactfully and kept the fire from spreading drastically," he said. "This allowed for self-evacuation of the Pentagon at a critical time, saving many lives, and eventually the building." Two Oshkosh T3000s spread approximately 600 gallons (2.2 kiloliters) of 6% AFFF with an initial fire flow of more than 3,000 gallons (11.3 kiloliters) per minute.
http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/nfpa-article/

The party crashers? By accident these two National Airport fire trucks were working nearby before the crash and rushed in bravely to put out the fires. Arriving at the crash site within 10 minutes, according to their report, they dutifully put out the Pentagon fires within 7 minutes. They saw NO SIGNS of an aircraft crashing there. No bodies. No luggage. No wings. No engines. No tail. No piece of fuselage sitting over in front of the helipad near them which looked like it had never been riveted to an aircraft frame.

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"The DoD photographers on the scene didn't record the Reagan National story on DoD websites; in fact, the photographs (and captions) on official DoD websites showed water being sprayed on the fire. DoD journalists who wrote stories about the Pentagon fire and rescue didn't record the Reagan National ARFF story either. Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Hugh Shelton, Army Secretary White, the Arlington four County Fire Chief (who allegedly directed the fire fighting effort) -- none of them mentioned the amazing Reagan National story to news-hungry reporters during their press conferences."

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How come these guys are not National HEROES, getting the Presidential Medal For Merit on nation-wide TV? They were heroes, doing their job. See the fire truck tracks across the lawn? These guys were among the first arrivals to the CRIME SCENE and put out the Pentagon fires themselves with foam. That's the 16' hole in the wall, which a 757 couldn't possibly make or fit through, between the fire trucks. But no aircraft debris of any kind to be seen anywhere on that lovely lawn right in front of the crash scene with the helipad just to the left out of the photo. This piece of fuselage which looks like it has never been riveted to an airframe and comes from the starboard (right) side of the aircraft, was allegedly found later sitting right in the middle of the lawn in front of the helipad, but these guys didn't see it. Why wasn't the left wing engine or engine parts found over in front of the helipad also? It could not possibly have gone through that 16' fuselage hole in the reinforced Pentagon wall and the engine certainly did not make its own hole through the wall, did it?

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[JackD]

Their crews went into the building to conduct search and rescue.

http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/nfpa-article/


I don't get it. "plane" slams into E ring. While fighting fires outside E ring, crews go into building for search and rescue, PRIOR to the 1005am roof collapse.

This argues that the fire inside the E ring was not hot enough to cause firemen to be unable to enter. Capt Defina should be interviewed to clarify who enterd building, and where --

did they go in the same exit hole that April Gallop walked out of?

[SPreston]

Their crews went into the building to conduct search and rescue.

http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/nfpa-article/


I don't get it. "plane" slams into E ring. While fighting fires outside E ring, crews go into building for search and rescue, PRIOR to the 1005am roof collapse.

This argues that the fire inside the E ring was not hot enough to cause firemen to be unable to enter. Capt Defina should be interviewed to clarify who enterd building, and where --

did they go in the same exit hole that April Gallop walked out of?

Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it? Why did the fires need to be rekindled after the Reagan ARFF left and kept burning for 60 hours? The first responders used foam on the supposed jet fuel fires, but the later units used water on the supposed jet fuel fires for 60 hours. Why was that? It was not really jet fuel burning or did they have an ulterior motive, under orders from above of course? I imagine Captain Michael Defina the Reagan Shift Commander and the rest of the fire crews have gigantic gag orders and wouldn't dare open their mouths. Isn't that the new American way; gag the witnesses and protect the perpetrators? As seen in the pdf below, fire rescue teams were inside the E and D rings before the roof collapsed rescuing people. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)

Why in the open free press USSA hasn't this story been pursued and investigated openly? Why didn't the President and other leaders publicly recognize the quick response heroism of these firefighters and publicly honor them? Why must their story be shunned and removed from the public consciousness? Why is this story of quick response heroism in a time of national crisis being censored? Is this normal having fire crews deliberately NOT put out fires? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cleanup.gif)

"The DoD photographers on the scene didn't record the Reagan National story on DoD websites; in fact, the photographs (and captions) on official DoD websites showed water being sprayed on the fire.  DoD journalists who wrote stories about the Pentagon fire and rescue didn't record the Reagan National ARFF story either.  Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Hugh Shelton, Army Secretary White, the Arlington four County Fire Chief (who allegedly directed the fire fighting effort) -- none of them mentioned the amazing Reagan National story to news-hungry reporters during their press conferences."
http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/nfpa.html

Here is Foam Unit #331, one of the two heroic Reagan National foam units (345) which successfully fought the Pentagon fires. Unfortunately the fires were rekindled after the Reagan National firefighters were given the boot and kept burning for 60 hours. But these guys are not heroes and needed to be removed from national recognition because their services were not wanted.
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At 0939 HRS the National Airport control tower transmitted,“Crash! Crash! Crash!” over the MWAA frequency and activated an airport alert, but there was confusion about the exact location of the crash. At about the same time, the control tower also reported a missing inbound 757.
MWAA’s Foam 331 (an Oshkosh T3000 crash rig), SERV 329 (a mass-casualty vehicle equipped to treat 150 patients) and Attack 323 (a mini-pumper) responded from the fire station to assist Rescue Engine 335 and Battalion 301 at the Pentagon. Medic 325 transported the unconscious driver to George Washington University hospital in Washington, D.C. and then responded to the Pentagon.
Paramedic Mike Fetsko says it was the quickest patient transfer he’s ever experienced. “They were waiting for us outside the emergency department,” he recalls. “They immediately moved the patient onto a gurney and told us to go.”
MWAA Captain Harry Hopkins arrived at the scene on SERV 329 and was shocked to see two nude adults writhing in pain on the grass. They were outside the Pentagon when the plane crashed and had been engulfed in the fireball; it burned off their clothes and hair.
MWAA and Arlington County fire departments arrived about the same time at 0942 HRS. They confirmed that one plane had crashed into the west side of the Pentagon. MWAA worked with Fort Myer to extinguish the jet fuel fire at the point of impact as well as treat the injured. Arlington County assisted Fort Myer firefighters with extricating survivors who could be reached from the exterior of the
complex and began interior rescue and firefighting operations. With a confirmed location transmitted, Foam 345 (an Oshkosh T3000) responded to the crash site from Reagan National Airport. From Dulles Airport, MWAA also sent a second mass-casualty unit (SERV 362) and a foam trailer to the crash site. Foam 331 arrived at 0944 HRS and Foam 345 arrived at 0948 HRS.
The crash trucks took about 13 minutes to suppress the jet fuel fire enough to allow fire crews to enter the outer D and E rings of the five-floor building and start a floor-to-floor search . (See Pentagon Complex diagram, p. 28.)
MWAA Battalion Chief Tim Lasher describes the first two hours of the incident as “hand-to-hand fire combat.”
http://info.jems.com/911/pdf/jems0402.pdf

How come these guys are not National HEROES, getting the Presidential Medal For Merit on nation-wide TV? They were heroes, doing their job. See the fire truck tracks across the lawn? These guys were among the first arrivals to the CRIME SCENE and put out the Pentagon fires themselves with foam. .

Fires put out with foam and rescue firemen sent into the E and D rings before the 10:05 roof collapse
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Reagan National Foam Truck # 331 and foam covered Pentagon walls before the 10:05 roof collapse
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Still, at 1005, Captain Defina "saw the classic signs of a collapse "buckling along the roof line and debris falling" around the 50-foot-wide (15.2-meter-wide) hole the jetliner had torn into the five-story building. He notified the Arlington fire command post, which sounded an evacuation tone several minutes before the collapse. No firefighters were injured.
http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/nfpa-article/

http://www.public-action.com/rescue.html
More photos of the Reagan ARFF team in action
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/116.html
http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/building.html
http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/pentapoof.htm