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Ua93 Another Posibility., In search of a discussion.

fransan
post Jun 27 2008, 03:44 PM
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Sorry to say that the official story seems the best alternative.
Hello. And welcome to a “new” topic for discussion. Was UA93 shot down? If it was, why did the government hide this fact from public knowledge?
My logic is that a lot of people knew at the time UA93 crashed, that airliners were being hijacked and being used as weapons to attack skyscrapers and other buildings.
The hijackings had been “discovered” or “unmasked” by the media and discussion was taking place on radio and T.V. With experts and authorities on the possibility of “shooting down” hijacked airliners.
Air Force fighter jets were in the air to “intercept” hijacked airplanes and NORAD was trying to get the “go ahead” order from the president or vice president to shoot. A total ground stop had been ordered by the FAA. And conflicting reports start to come in about an apparent crash or “shot down” of an airliner which is identified as UA93.
Now, for the part that I would like to get opinions on: If UA93 was indeed shot down by the Air Force, why would this be kept from the public? Wouldn´t this have public approval? Seeing what had happened at NYC, and the Pentagon, people probably would have been able to accept this situation as unavoidable, and even with the sad reality of U.S. Civilians being killed by their own military, the shooting would have been seen as a “victory” of some kind on terrorism.
So, if we try to look at it from the perspective of people knowing what is going on, we have to ask, which is the better alternative:
a.- Try to hide that you had to shoot down the plane?
b.- Or Admit that you had to do it.
A decision was made apparently in favor of trying to make heroes of the passengers, which we must admit if this is the case, is an excellent choice.
By the way, probably what happened was that passengers had decided to try and do something, which makes heroes of them, and then they were shot down.
The best possibility in this crash is the official story, because:
1.- You don´t have to face the terrible fact of having had to kill your own citizens.
2.- And at the same time you are able to acknowledge some heroism that may have taken place and should be recognized.
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post Jun 27 2008, 04:15 PM
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Well, I read your post twice and I'm still not sure what you are trying to say.
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post Jun 27 2008, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (fransan @ Jun 27 2008, 03:44 PM) *
Sorry to say that the official story seems the best alternative.
Hello. And welcome to a “new” topic for discussion. Was UA93 shot down? If it was, why did the government hide this fact from public knowledge?

It wasn't shot down. It never crashed:

http://killtown.911review.org/flight93.html
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post Jun 27 2008, 04:36 PM
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Killtown, without even looking at your link, I tend to agree with you.
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post Jun 27 2008, 05:32 PM
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Killtown. What do you think happened? Where are the passengers and crew or UA93?
Do they exist? Did the flight take off? Did it land somewhere? Was the flight hijacked?
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post Jun 27 2008, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Jun 27 2008, 02:15 PM) *
Well, I read your post twice and I'm still not sure what you are trying to say.

Sorry if I don´t make myself clear enough.
I´m thinking that the best way to fit the demise of UA93 into the OCT would be what we have heard.
In other words, I feel it is the best possible scenario both for the Gov. and for the american people.
What do you think?
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post Jun 27 2008, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (fransan @ Jun 27 2008, 02:35 PM) *
QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Jun 27 2008, 02:15 PM) *
Well, I read your post twice and I'm still not sure what you are trying to say.

Sorry if I don´t make myself clear enough.
I´m thinking that the best way to fit the demise of UA93 into the OCT would be what we have heard.
In other words, I feel it is the best possible scenario both for the Gov. and for the american people.
What do you think?


In all honesty, I think you are an idiot. rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 27 2008, 06:52 PM
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post Jun 27 2008, 07:21 PM
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In all honesty, I think you are an idiot. rolleyes.gif
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I see no point in the insult.
What do you think personaly about UA93 Painter? What is your theory?
I would just like to see some opinions on the issue.
About KT, I respect his views but I don´t believe him to be correct in all of them.
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post Jun 27 2008, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (fransan @ Jun 27 2008, 05:32 PM) *
Killtown. What do you think happened? Where are the passengers and crew or UA93?
Do they exist? Did the flight take off? Did it land somewhere? Was the flight hijacked?

None of that matters. If Flight 93 didn't crash, a conspiracy is proven. Wouldn't you agree? The rest of your questions can be answered by the perps at the trial.
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post Jun 27 2008, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jun 27 2008, 06:52 PM) *
This is where KT should shine... hello? KT?

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Hehehe. Feel free to jump in!


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post Jun 27 2008, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (fransan @ Jun 27 2008, 07:21 PM) *
About KT, I respect his views but I don´t believe him to be correct in all of them.

I take it you think Flight 93 crashed at Shanks. Let me prove to you it didn't.

If you have about 20 min, please watch these to films:

"Fairy Tail"
http://hoodwinkedatshanksville.blogspot.co...fairy-tail.html

"The Little Engine That Couldn't"
http://hoodwinkedatshanksville.blogspot.co...at-couldnt.html


Watch both then tell me if you still think 93 crashed there.
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post Jun 27 2008, 08:24 PM
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So. UA93 didn´t crash in Shanksville. OK.
But what do you think happened? Do the passengers and crew exist?
Are they somwhere safe? Where they dispossed of?
Just asking questions. Don´t mean any disrespect.
Just want to know the theories people have on this.
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post Jun 27 2008, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE (fransan @ Jun 27 2008, 08:24 PM) *
So. UA93 didn´t crash in Shanksville. OK.
But what do you think happened? Do the passengers and crew exist?
Are they somwhere safe? Where they dispossed of?
Just asking questions. Don´t mean any disrespect.
Just want to know the theories people have on this.

So you agree 93 didn't crash there?

What happened? It's like a missing child. We don't know other than they are missing.
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post Jun 27 2008, 11:04 PM
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KT. Even though I was asking the question. I will give you my answer.
First let me say I found your videos very interesting and that they show a lot of hard work. salute.gif
What I believe is that UA93 was hijacked. The pilots were killed or wounded.
That the passengers found out what had happened in NYC, and decided to try and do something.
That UA93 was shot down, which explains some of the findings that you have talked about, such as, the spread out of debris, the small crater (because only a small portion of the aircraft actually reached that spot).
That the Gov. decided not to aknowledge the shooting down but rather went with the passengers story, making this tragedy into something easier to swallow by the american people, giving them something they could grab onto, and help them process in a better way the terrible events of that day.
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post Jun 27 2008, 11:30 PM
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where are these idiots created?
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post Jun 27 2008, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (fransan @ Jun 27 2008, 04:21 PM) *
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I see no point in the insult.
What do you think personaly about UA93 Painter? What is your theory?
I would just like to see some opinions on the issue.
About KT, I respect his views but I don´t believe him to be correct in all of them.


You asked what I thought. If you don't want to know, don't ask.

OPINIONS are a dime a dozen. What matters is evidence. I see no evidence that 93 crashed at SV.
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post Jun 28 2008, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE (albertchampion @ Jun 27 2008, 08:30 PM) *
where are these idiots created?


Public schools. "Critical thinking" isn't on the curricula.
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post Jun 28 2008, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (fransan)
KT. Even though I was asking the question. I will give you my answer.
First let me say I found your videos very interesting and that they show a lot of hard work.
What I believe is that UA93 was hijacked. The pilots were killed or wounded.
That the passengers found out what had happened in NYC, and decided to try and do something.
That UA93 was shot down, which explains some of the findings that you have talked about, such as, the spread out of debris, the small crater (because only a small portion of the aircraft actually reached that spot).
That the Gov. decided not to aknowledge the shooting down but rather went with the passengers story, making this tragedy into something easier to swallow by the american people, giving them something they could grab onto, and help them process in a better way the terrible events of that day.

You are saying the government lied about 93 also? We already know that.

You cannot do 10 minutes of research and become an instant Flight 93 expert.

The Hollywood fictional movie with the actors wearing red bandanas does not qualify as research. There is lots of Flt 93 research on this website and many others.
There is also lots of fascinating research on the other 3 aircraft of the Bush Regime 9-11 Inside Job Official Conspiracy Theory to add to your own research.



Folded and cleaned and pressed and ready for trial after recovery from burial deep underground
Red bandana recovered from the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site (click photo)
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post Jun 28 2008, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (fransan @ Jun 27 2008, 11:04 PM) *
KT. Even though I was asking the question. I will give you my answer.
First let me say I found your videos very interesting and that they show a lot of hard work. salute.gif
What I believe is that UA93 was hijacked. The pilots were killed or wounded.
That the passengers found out what had happened in NYC, and decided to try and do something.
That UA93 was shot down, which explains some of the findings that you have talked about, such as, the spread out of debris, the small crater (because only a small portion of the aircraft actually reached that spot).
That the Gov. decided not to aknowledge the shooting down but rather went with the passengers story, making this tragedy into something easier to swallow by the american people, giving them something they could grab onto, and help them process in a better way the terrible events of that day.

Thank you.

Now I have to ask about your shoot down theory:

1. Here is the official flight path:



Approx where on this map do you believe Flight 93 was shot?

2. Do you believe 93 exploded in midair?

3. Do you believe the Shanks crater was entirely made by the remaining part of Flight 93 crashing down and that 93 left the wing and tail marks?
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