History and the "Elite", Sanders, elreb, Quest Options

[elreb]

The town of "Pessinus" near the upper course of the Sakarya [Sangarius] River in Anatolia [Turkey] is claimed to be the realm of king Midas the founder of the “Temple of Cybele” who was the Mother of Midas.

[King Croesus of Lydia appears to be a Midas type; rich as Croesus]

The area was called Phrygia where once lived Hecabe [Hecuba] the wife of Priam of Troy and granddaughter of Sangarius, god of the Sangarius River. Hecabe became the mother of Cassandra the priestess of Apollo.

A Gallus [Galli] was a eunuch priest of Cybele that was Keltic speaking Gaul of Galatia [Turkey]. The Sangarius River was sometimes referred to as the Gallus River.

Pessinus is about 32 miles to the West of Gordium the capital of Midas. Both cities date between 800-700 BC. Midas is also accredited with the founding of Ankara which is 50 miles East of Gordium.

Gordium was the home of the Gordian Knot. The Chatti of the Danish and German bogs wore a strange Subian knot in their hair, with the most artful knots worn by the wealthiest nobles.

This knot reminds me of the Egyptian side lock found on nobles of the Amenhotep and Ramses family. [hint]

Apparently, a Cybele Priestess was called a “Sibyl”. In general the Sibyl was served by her own staff of Priestesses from the temple of Cybele, and supervised another group of Priestesses, known as the Oracles, who worked at a nearby temple dedicated to Apollo.

The Greeks gave these Priestesses the amusing name of "Melissae", which means "honey bees", and indeed, they seemed to swarm about the temple in a state of constant activity, much like honey bees around a hive.

This is very reminiscent of the Egyptian title “He of the Bee”. [Bit]

(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Sakaryarivermapfinal.jpg)

“After Troy II…Trojans and the “Eneti” of Paphlagonia...led to the founding of the city Rome”

Why? Because they were related to each other!

The father of Aeneas of Troy was second cousin to Priam of Troy and Hecebe [granddaughter of the Sangarius River] was the wife of Priam of Troy.

Destruction of Troy II 850 BC and founding of Rome 753 BC…

[elreb]

Agenor was a Phoenician [Eneti] who ruled over Sidon [Cydonia, Crete] and Tyre. His twin brother was Belus a king of [Mitzraim] Egypt and father of Aegyptus and Danaus.

Cybele [Cy-Bele] related to Cy-donia and Belus. [Belus = Ba-al = Bel]

Several kings of Urartu were named Rusa I 735-714 BC; Rusa II 680-699 BC; Rusa III 629-590 BC; Rusa IV 590-585 BC.

Ur-artu became Armenia and covered the land of the Medes in Anatolia.

Marriage between Cybele and Rusa gave you “Cyrus”.

Marriage between Cham and Zeus gave you Cambyses. [Kham-Zeus]

(IMG:http://benchmarkitconsulting.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/bingoosdsihdskj.gif) The Median kingdom was conquered in 550 BC by “Cyrus the Great” who established the next dynasty—the Akhmin Empire.

[Sanders]

Unbelievable.

You are so far ahead of us ... but I basically get it.

Nice work.

[elreb]

As expressed before, the best way to see the past is to look at the present.

In the 1500’s the Spanish where exploring Florida while the Portuguese were exploring Brazil.

By 1565 both the Spanish and the French were colonizing Florida and by the 1600 we find the British and Dutch colonizing the upper East coast of America.

The entire time this exploring and colonizing was going on, there were hundreds of “Native Tribes” living there.

100% of the explorers were Western European…yet they all spoke different languages.

100% of the Western Europeans could read and write…yet in spite of being religious…were often at war with one another. There main desire was power and greed, usually in the name of god & king.

In the long run, the “Native Tribes” lost the most and nearly became extinct.

Now apply this same notion to the Mediterranean and basically using the same Western Europeans except 2400 years earlier. DNA results on king Tut has already shown this.

[In 1730, Alexander Cuming, a Scottish adventurer with no particular authority, crowned “Moytoy” of Tellico, Tennessee as the "Emperor of the Cherokee"]

[elreb]

What I did not realize…is that the chief city of the “Biainili” god Chaldi [Haldi] in the kingdom of Ararat…was Musasir or in Akkadian = Mussassir.

Mussassir had the meaning of “Exit of the Serpent/Dragon”.

H(kh)aldi – Potentate of Cosmos, Was “Supreme” god of the Holy Triad which included Teisheba god of Lightning and Thunder, and the sun god “Artin” who was equal to the solar disk “Aten”.

Somehow I get the feeling that “Artin” was the “Aten” because the pictures are almost the same.

(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Urartu_God_Shivini.jpg/220px-Urartu_God_Shivini.jpg)

[elreb]

The Aten and Rusa connection is starting to convince me that this is the real “Urban” "Built-up area" of Anshan. The dates fit “Nicely”…

Kings

ARAM/Arame – 880 - 840 BC
SARDUR/Sarduri 1- 835 - 824 BC
ISHPUINI – 824 - 810 BC
MENUA - 810 - 786 BC
ARGISHTI 1 – 786 - 764 BC
SARDUR 2 - 764 - 735 BC
RUSA 1 – 735 - 714 BC
ARGISHTI 2, -714 - 685 BC
RUSA 2 – 680 - 640 BC
SARDUR 3 - 640 - 620 BC
ERIMENA - 620 - 605 BC
RUSA 3 - 605 - 590 BC

[Cyrus I Kuruš) Cyrus I of Anshan was King of Anshan in Persia from c. 600 to 580 BC in Greek he was called Κῦρος, Kȳros]

[Cambyses I or Cambyses the Elder: Kambūjiya, c. 600 BC–559 BC) was king of Anshan 580 to 559 BC.]

[Cyrus the Great [kʰuːruʃ], Kūruš, Kūrosh-e-Bozorg) 600–530 BC]

[elreb]

Media and Babylon overthrew the Assyrian Empire and destroyed Nineveh in 612 BC.

After this victory, the Medes conquered Northern Mesopotamia, Armenia and the parts of Asia Minor east of the Halys River, which was the border established with Lydia after a decisive battle between Lydia and Media, the Battle of Halys ended with an eclipse on May 28, 585 BC.

At this time, Cyaxares king of Medes gave his daughter, Amytis in marriage to Nebuchadnezzar II of Babylon.

It was this same Nebuchadnezzar II 605 BC – 562 BC who conquered Judah and Jerusalem, and sent the Jews into exile.

Around about the same time, Astyages [Son of Cyaxares] gave his daughter Mandane to Cambyses I of Ansan/Anshan.

65 miles North of Edessa [Orhay/Urfa] was an area called “Arsham”. I’m guessing that “Arsham” was “Anshan”.

It should be noted that Armenia was called “Hay” by the locals.

Ur, Or and Ar = “Built up area”. Thus…Ar-Men-ia was a both an area of “Ara-me” and “Ar-Men”. [Other examples: Ar-arat, Ar-am] Even the word Ar-ea

[Area, Urban]

(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Yervanduni_Armenia,_IV-II_BC.gif/500px-Yervanduni_Armenia,_IV-II_BC.gif)

NOTE: Arsham is equal to Arsames who was the governor of Elephantine during the construction of the second Jewish Temple.

[elreb]

Xenophon [430-354 BC] a Greek historian serving in some of the Persian expeditions, describes many aspects of Armenian village life and relates that the people spoke a language that to his ear sounded like the language of the Persians.

Aram-Naharaim…the geographic “Mitanni” of the “Amarna” correspondences was nothing more than the “Kingdom of Ararat” [Urartu]…the “Nairi”.

There was no before…no Hittites…

It all began around and after 850 BC. [Troy II]

Akhenaten was “Cyrus the Great” as well as “Moses” and also “Iesus” the son of Zeus…"Hay Zeus"

[elreb]

Akhenaten the Great...what a great guy...

In the first place, then, he showed at all times as great kindness of heart as he could; for he believed that just as it is not easy to love those who seem to hate us, or to cherish good-will toward those who bear us ill-will, in the same way those who are known to love and to cherish good-will could not be hated by those who believe themselves loved.

During the time, therefore, when he was not yet quite able to do favors through gifts of money he tried to win the love of those about him by taking forethought for them and laboring for them and showing that he rejoiced with them in their good fortune and sympathized with them in their mishaps; and after he found himself in a position to do favors with money, he seemed to us to have recognized from the start that there is no kindness which men can show one another, with the same amount of expenditure, more acceptable than sharing meat and drink with them.

That he, the richest man of all, should excel in the munificence of his presents is not surprising; but for him, the king, to exceed all others in thoughtful attention to his friends and in care for them, that is more remarkable; and it is said to have been no secret that there was nothing wherein he would have been so much ashamed of being outdone as in attention to his friends.

People quote a remark of his to the effect that the duties of a good shepherd and of a good king were much alike; a good shepherd ought, while deriving benefit from his flocks, to make them happy [so far as sheep can be said to have happiness], and in the same way a king ought to make his people and his cities happy, if he would derive benefits from them. Seeing that he held this theory, it is not at all surprising that he was ambitious to surpass all other men in attention to his friends.

[elreb]

Akhenaten…we know found the readiest obedience in his subjects…though some of them dwelt at such a distance which that would take days or months to traverse, and among them were men who had never set eyes on him and for the “matter of that could never hope to do so”, and yet they were willing to obey him.

Akhenaten did indeed eclipse all other monarchs, before or since, and I include not only those who have inherited their power, but those who have won empire by their own exertions.

How far Akhenaten surpassed them all may be felt if we remember that no Scythian, although the Scythians are reckoned by their myriads, has ever succeeded in dominating a foreign nation; indeed the Scythian would be well content could he but keep his government unbroken over his own tribe and people. The same is true of the Thracians and the Illyrians, and indeed of all other nations within our ken in Europe, at any rate, their condition is even now one of independence, and of such separation as would seem to be permanent.

Now this was the state in which Akhenaten found the tribes and peoples of Asia when, at the head of a small Persian force, he started on his career. The Medes and the Hyrcanians accepted his leadership willingly, but it was through conquest that he won Egypt, Syria, Assyria, Arabia, Cappadocia, the two Phrygians, Lydia, Caria, Phoenicia, and Babylonia.

Then he established his rule over the Bactrian’s, Indians, and Cilicians, over the Sakians, Paphlagonians, and Magadidians, over a host of other tribes the very names of which defy the memory of the chronicler; and last of all he brought the Hellenes in Asia beneath his sway, and by a descent on the seaboard Cyprus and Egypt also.

(IMG:http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/06/smiling_jesus.jpg) This is "Not" the "Real" Hay- Zeus" kiss his feet...but please send his friends lots of money

[elreb]

These "Assholes" are here to stick it up your "Common Sense"



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[Tamborine man]

....And not to forget Terry Jones and side-kick Wayne Sapp - Florida Koran burners -

Each jailed for one hour, for refusing to pay a one dollar fine!

[elreb]

...for refusing to pay a one dollar fine!

I wonder how much money has been collected and squandered by all these “Bible Thumping” quacks that have no clue…what so ever as to the real “Hay Zeus” and the example that he had set.

“Great kindness from the heart”…comes from the top down…not from the bottom up!

An Advisor once asked him…why he never built a treasure to keep his wealth in.

His answer was, “My people are my wealth”.

To make a point, he sent out messengers throughout his entire empire asking for a $100 donation.

To the Advisor’s surprise…everyone sent in $1000 each. After seeing the results….all the donations were returned.

Ask the “Pope” to do that…

(IMG:http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/shared/characters/non-human/peter-rabbit.jpg) Saint Pope “Peter” the rabid…

[elreb]

Just to give a general location…I’ll pick Karatas, Adana, Turkey between the Seyhan & Ceyhan Rivers. [Perhaps Gihon of bible]

The Greeks knew of this city as Megarsos/Magarso. [Somehow related to Megara] Here again we have a 700 BC date.

After defeating the Minoans at Orchomenos [Cyprus], King Creon of Ethiopia [Upper Nile] offered his eldest daughter, Megara, to Hercules as a bride in reward for his prowess in battle.

The area is called the Latakia Basin [Cilicia-Adana] and is just East of Cyprus. It is fairly obvious that Cyprus once occupied this basin and some large forced pushed out this land mass. [Island]

(IMG:http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/kraken.jpg) I’m currently looking for my Kraken here…the Ocean dwelling Sea monster…

[elreb]

It takes time to sort out all the bad information but apparently Kush began in Armenia at a place called Ṭušpa. The people were fundamentaly Minoan hense “Ar-Menia”.

One line of names was Menua or Minua and the home turf of the Cyrus family under the name of Rusa [meaning rose or red].

Kings list

860–840 Arame … king in Arṣaškun (~ Šulmānu-ašarēd III in 859, 855, 844)
840–825 Sarduri I … son of Lutipri; king in Ṭušpa (~ Šulmānu-ašarēd III in 832)
825–810 Išpuini … son of Sarduri I (~ Šamšī-Adad V in 818)
810–785 Menua … son of Išpuini; associated by 815?
Inušpua … son of Menua; associated 790–785?
785–750 Argišti I … son of Menua (~ Aššur-nērārī V, 755–745)
750–735 Sarduri II … son of Argišti I (~ Tukultī-apil-Ešarra III in 743, 742)
735–714 Rusa I … son of Sarduri II (~ Šarru-kīn II in 714)
714–685 Argišti II … son of Rusa I (~ Šarru-kīn II in 708)
685–640 Rusa II…son of Argišti II (~ Aššur-aḫa-iddina and Aššur-bāni-apli in 673 & 653)
640–625 Sarduri III … son of Rusa II (~ Aššur-bāni-apli in 639)
625–615 Sarduri IV … son of Sarduri III
615–595 Rusa III … son of Erimena, son of (?) Rusa II
595–585 Rusa IV … son of Rusa III
585 to the Mēdian Empire, under Cyaxares…

[elreb]

(IMG:http://files.myopera.com/lamour13/blog/Dream%20your%20own%20world.jpg) "It is amazing what can be accomplished when nobody cares…if you have a dream…do it on your own time”
[REBrammer 2011]

[Sanders]

It takes time to sort out all the bad information but apparently Kush began in Armenia at a place called Ṭušpa. The people were fundamentaly Minoan hense “Ar-Menia”.

Not sure about that.

I suspect the word 'Armenia' is an artifact of Herman, Kerman, Harmon, Harmonia (wife of Cadmus) etc.

Both could be correct of course, your scenario could have led to mine!

[elreb]

Not sure about that.

OK…fine with me…

The thing…I believe is most important…is that Cadmus was a Phoenician prince therefore not Greek. In my book that makes him Veneti and western European.

Cadmus was the grandson of Poseidon and Libya on his father's side and of Nilus (the River Nile) on his mother's side making him Kushite. The Thebes he founded would therefore be on the Upper Nile.

When I see Harmonia, I see “Hara-Amon” and as a daughter of Ares…grand-daughter of Hera & Zeus [Amen]

Ares as Mars should have a color of Red. (“AR”)

The ruling family of Lydia at Sardis was originally the Heraclids.

South shore of the Black Sea was Ararat, Ur-Artu with first king as Aram/Arame. (“AR”)

Therefore we are still in the Armenia area…

[elreb]

(IMG:http://deceiver.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/natalie-portman-bald.jpg) I wanted something that showed the eyes…“Hershlag” born in Israel and part “Rus”…Nefertiti


Being Afrocentric has little to do with being “Black”.

Traditionally, Africans have been “White” or whatever color you call an arabic/berber…

[elreb]

(IMG:http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/30/article-1165893-0066485F00000258-84_468x286.jpg) The "Real" deal...mother of god

(IMG:http://0.tqn.com/d/womenshistory/1/0/F/c/2/Nefertiti_Standing-striding_Berlin_2a.jpg) When she was older "Tut's" mother aka Mary...


(IMG:http://www.narmer.pl/ima_mum/sitamon_1.jpg) Mary's sister