The Men Who Killed Kennedy - Merged Thread, Episodes 7-9 Options

[7forever]

The red blob of blood mist is 100% fake as a 3 dollar bill

The red blob is fake because it appears before the shot and after the bullet connects and you can see the mist disappear leaving the fake flap. The fake white extends in unison with the headshot/fake blood mist.
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[7forever]

The driver placed gun in left hand with his right

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/
Thanks to the zfilm, the cover-up is now unravelling by simply watching (and NOT ignoring) the driver's movements before, during and after the fatal shot he fires. Greer has both hands off the wheel at frame 241 and his right hand with the gun meets his left hand at 242.
FRAME 241
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Places gun in left hand with right.
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[7forever]

Frame 319 is the gun bleached in white

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/
Disinfo video by a fat toolbag, fortunately, everyone now can see that Greer places the gun in his left hand proving that Bob harris tried and failed to keep this deception going indefinitely. The altered gun is visible before, during and after the shot.
318 is the fake reflection and 319 is the gun bleached in white.
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COMING UP FROM FLOOR, BACKWARDS.
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They could NOT edit out the gun so they covered it with white and grey. The driver killing Kennedy was always THE TRUTH but was universally ignored and covered-up.
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[7forever]

The driver shot JFK clearly and obviously but the zapruder film needed to be picked apart and analyzed by someone and that someone turned out to be me.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xesq49_jf...rville-nix_news

Nix film close-up shows Greer's left arm crossing over.

I got this gif from this clip. Start it at 1:09 and see Greer quickly moving his left arm over his shoulder in unison with the headshot. The nix film was not shown close-up but when this sequence is zoomed in on the limo, this whopper is revealed. The goons covered those movements with fakery in the zfilm but could not or didn't bother with the nix film.
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THE FAKE GREY STREAK covered Greer's arm movement in the zfilm and the nix film proves that alteration beyond any doubt. Case Closed, finally.
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The driver killed Kennedy and the Nix film provides conclusive proof to this inevitable truth.

[7forever]

A four year bump with an obvious but hidden truth. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

[BADBURD]

Tell me, what Oswalds benefits were. And take this in the consideration:
JFK was about to create a US-currency that is a real US-currency and
isn't borrowed by the Federal Reserve anymore. This might give you a hint
of the ones who really benefitted of the assasination.
And remember Lincoln and what he wanted to do in a similar way.

Let's not forget about Andrew Jackson. He claimed the bankers tried to kill him a number of times. He even called them out on that. He was actually able to get the FED out of the country. We can thank Woodrow Wilson for letting them back in. We also need to remember what the other main purpose of the Secret Service is. Working for the Federal Reserve looking for counterfeiters and counterfeit money. Kind of a conflict of interest don't you think? I bet our taxes even pay their wages. The Fed don't even have that expense.

I have also researched JFK for a long time. I do believe some shots came from the Grassy Knoll. Only because that is where everyone is heading after the kill shots and many eyewitnesses claim to have seen the shots come from there. Funny how no one is running at the school book depository. I can honestly say I can't see Greer shooting JFK in the videos. I'm not saying anyone is wrong and he didn't. The videos are so poor I just can't see it. Not to mention none of the videos can be trusted. There is no telling how many Red Herrings are in them by now. There is no doubt the Secret Service was in on it. There is no way around that. Look at the route they took JFK on and all the normal protocals they failed to do. There is no doubt that was a big AMBUSH. You have the stand down at Love field. Possibly Greer stopping the car for the kill shot. (yes I said STOPPING not slowing). Nobody covering Jfk when the shots started and Greer sure as hell didn't punch it and get JFK out of there. So it doesn't matter to me if Greer fired any shots. He had the ability to get the president out of there. So he is responsible for his death either way. If I was the president I would be clearing the SS out of there and getting some hand picked top notch military guys covering my ass.

[7forever]

Greer firing the fatal shot is proof of a coup, an inside job. There's nothing more important in this case. If you can prove who fired the fatal, then the conspiracy can be exposed.

[BADBURD]

This is no different than 911. Evidence and proof only works when the people in power care. The problem is the people in power are the one's doing it. 911 is no different. People will be doing research on it 40+ years from now and nobody that is invovled will ever go to jail. Let alone hanged. Which is supposed to be what happens when your guilty of treason. Look we are over 9 years since 911 and with all the information that we have we still are no closer to arresting the REAL perps. If you had a high definition video of Greer pulling a shotgun out and blasting JFK you still wouldn't get anywhere. It's sad, but true. The JFK thing makes me very sad. You can always tell if somebody is for the people. They die.

[tnemelckram]

Hi All! Well, might as well weigh in on this. No use in being shy, although the odds I am right are no greater than anyone else!

I think there was definitely a plot, not Oswald acting alone. The plotters could be any number pof people, including the Mafia, CIA, Texas Oil Money or anyone else anyone might care to add. Their could be any number of witting or unwitting minor assistants, such as the Dallas Police or Secret Service.

I don't think the Z or other films show the driver shooting at all. At most, they might show him slowing down to present a better target, but I doubt even this.

I don't think the Grassy Knoll was the location of any second shooter. The shot angles would have been too sideways to be consistent with the movement of JFK's head during the fatal shot. Any second shooter was either close to directly behind or close to directly in front.

There are several possibilities.

1. Oswald was the only shooter but had backing and support from the plotters. For example, maybe he just got lucky, maybe they had him practice beforehand, or maybe he actually used the Mauser that was also reported found instead of the crap Mannlicher Carano that is claimed to be the murder weapon. They certainly gave him financial and logistical support and perhaps caused some people responsible for protection to lay down to help Oswald..

2. There were other shooters in position from anywhere, including from the Grassy Knoll to the side, other places ahead, and/or behind. However, they didn't have to shoot because they either saw Oswald get lucky, or were instructed to abide the event until they were certain Oswald had failed.

3. Other shooters actually took shots either from close to directly behind or close to directly in front. From behind, there could have been second shooters in other places in the TSBD, ot other buildings like the Dal Tex. From Ahead I am not as sure, but perhaps from the railroad overpass, or the other side of Dealey Plaza on the other side of overpass where it looks to me like there was vegetation cover.

This post has been edited by tnemelckram: Nov 19 2010, 12:49 AM

[rob balsamo]

Ventura will be covering the JFK Assassination tonight on TruTV at 10pm Eastern.

Jesse says he has "The First Ever" confession on his show tonight.

[BADBURD]

I think it's Howard Hunt's son that Jessie is talking about. I read a article about this a couple of years ago. The son said his dad wrote a note with some names with lines like a chart of who was involved. LBJ-Allen Dulles and some others. The problem I had with that story Hunt can't know for sure if the hit came from above LBJ. I guess we will see what Jessie comes up with.

[BADBURD]

Here is a question everybody needs to ask themselves when trying to decide who the perps really are. Mob, Bankers, Lone nut, etc... Who had the ability to manipulate the autopsy at Bethesda Navel Hospital? Who had the ability to pull the presidents dead body from Parkland hospital? Who had the ability to change the motorcade route at the last minute?

[Tamborine man]

Here is a question everybody needs to ask themselves when trying to decide who the perps really are. Mob, Bankers, Lone nut, etc... Who had the ability to manipulate the autopsy at Bethesda Navel Hospital? Who had the ability to pull the presidents dead body from Parkland hospital? Who had the ability to change the motorcade route at the last minute?

Read this a couple of years back.

Hard to know who to believe these days!

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/index1.htm

Cheers

[maturin42]

Jesse's coverage of JFK was the best show he has presented so far. Go to Black Ops Radio show #500 for more. Len Osanic interviews Jesse for over an hour. At least Jesse didn't interview Gerald Posner!

Another worthwhile discussion I heard this week can be found at Lisa Pease's
http://realhistoryarchives.blogspot.com/

It featured James Douglass, Oliver Stone, and Lisa Pease in a panel discussion moderated by Robert Ellsberg. Douglass is the author of what I consider the best book on the assassination of JFK ever written, "JFK and the Unspeakable". Jesse shows ties between the Warren Commission, Nixon, Bush Sr., LBJ, and the coverup, and Hunt's deathbed statements to his son, Saint John Hunt, about which I had read but had not heard the audio recording.

[Sanders]

It is so obvious. It's a wonder that Americans just lowered their heads and said, 'dunnoh'. That victory (on the part of the perpetrators) enabled the chaos we are seeing now.

People wonder, was it the mob? The CIA? Johnson? The Defense Department? Was it because of his intention to pull troops out of Vietnam? His intention to break up the CIA and "scatter it to the winds", or his efforts to undercut the Federal Reserve and print US Treasury notes? How about, all of the above?

JFK was the son of an insider. Obviously the crooks thought they had a pretty face that could be controlled, but were proved wrong. So they blew his bloody brains out, as they had done many times before.

[rob balsamo]

Jesse's coverage of JFK was the best show he has presented so far.

Jesse's JFK episode embedded here -

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20804

[maturin42]

Black Ops Radio 's Osanic and DiEugenio discussed the JFK Truth movement - (what do they call it anyway?) in a show I listened to today while raking the approximate 5 metric tons of leaves that collect in my yard annually about this time. They were discussing the divergent views of people who claim to be working toward the same ends. It has been 47 years since the assassination, and theories and divergent views seem to be on the increase, if anything. DiEugenio compared the JFK movement to the 9/11 community saying that the 9/11 movement is really fragmented, in that he cited Judy Wood/Morgan Reynolds and the No-planers, mentioning John Lear by name. I don't think that is a valid criticism, in that the Wood/Reynolds,Lear views are rarely cited by anyone as representative.

What I want to tell him, and I intend to write him this evening, is that if he would step back and look big-picture at both movements, he would see how utterly similar they are in trajectory. Disinfo is spread against both. Cass Sunstein's wish for Cognitive Infiltration applies exactly in both cases. DiEugenio made a very valid point by saying that the tendency to focus in on the minutiae provides a great deal of grist for the endless arguments over it that keep people from focusing on the major points on which everyone agrees. You could say the exact same thing about the 9/11 community, I think. Osanic's focus, almost to the exclusion of everything else, is JFK research. But I think if those guys took a step back and looked at both cases as instances of "deep state" operations, as they are called by Peter Dale Scott, the alternative view community in both cases are looking at slightly different perspectives of the same elephant.

We badly need unification in both communities and across movements.

Edited for the sake of clarity.

This post has been edited by maturin42: Nov 20 2010, 07:13 PM

[datars]

I uploaded the DVD's here
http://tracker.concen.org/torrents-details.php?id=15733

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura S02E05 JFK Assassination
http://tracker.concen.org/torrents-details.php?id=21380

[7forever]

A shot right there in the car...

Austin Miller's Warren Commission Testimony (back to the list of witnesses)
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/m_j_russ/comp.htm#list

(Miller was standing on the triple overpass)

Mr. BELIN - Well, describe what happened. Did you see the motorcade come by?
Mr. MILLER - Yes sir; it came down main street and turned north on Houston Street and went over two blocks and turned left on Elm Street. Got about halfway down the hill going toward the underpass and that is when as I recall the first shot was fired.
Mr. BELIN - Did you know it was a shot when you heard it?
Mr. MILLER - I didn't know it. I thought at first the motorcycle backfiring or somebody throwed some firecrackers out.
Mr. BELIN - Then what did you hear or see?
Mr. MILLER - After the first one, just a few seconds later, there was two more shots fired, or sounded like a sound at the time. I don't know for sure. And it was after that I saw some man in the car fall forward, and a women next to him grab him and hollered, and just what, I don't know exactly what she said.
Mr. BELIN - Then what did you see?
Mr. MILLER - About that time I turned to look toward the - there is a little plaza sitting on the hill. I looked over there to see if anything was there, who through the firecracker or whatever it was, or see if anything was up there, and there wasn't nobody standing there, so I stepped back and looked at the tracks to see if anybody run across the railroad tracks, and there was nobody running across the railroad tracks. So I turned right straight back just in time to see the convertible take off fast.
Mr. BELIN - You mean the convertible in which the President was riding?
Mr. MILLER - I wouldn't want to say it was the President. It was a convertible, but I saw a man fall over. I don't know whose convertible it was.
Mr. BELIN - Where did the shots sound like they came from?
Mr. MILLER - Well, the way it sounded like, it came from the, I would say from right there in the car. Would be to my left, the way I was looking at him toward that incline.
Mr. BELIN - Is there anything else that you can think of that you saw?
Mr. MILLER - About the time I looked over to the side there, there was a police officer. No; a motorcycle running his motor under against the curb, and jumped off and come up to the hill toward the top and right behind him was some more officers and plainclothesmen, too.
Mr. BELIN - Did you see anyone that might be, that gave any suspicious movements of any kind over there?
Mr. MILLER - No, sir; I didn't
Mr. BELIN - Did you see anyone when you looked around on the railroad tracks, that you hadn't seen before
Mr. MILLER - No, sir; I didn't.

[nitatutt]

Interesting conversation between President Kennedy and General MacArthur - note the many parallels - propaganda-entertainment media, group think and current events and the nations involved - deja vu ?

Even mentions a Romney running for office - I expect Romney will be the elephant man of choice.

http://www.archive.org/details/jfk_012

This post has been edited by nitatutt: Nov 26 2010, 05:39 PM