Jesse Ventura Speaks With Pilots For 9/11 Truth, The Pentagon Rating Options

[rob balsamo]

Does anyone have an upload link of the video?

I dont.

But the show is coming on again at 2am eastern on TruTV.

[Atomicbomb]

Direct link to full episode here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s



Download a copy of it people so it can't go down the memory hole.

[Sanders]

Didn't get to see the whole thing, but overall good. A milestone. I'm in aggreement with Atomic. Given that she was kind enough to appear and answer Jesse's questions though, I thought he handled it gracefully.

P.S. I see we have a link to the whole thing now? Cool, thanx

[A. Syed]

Oh wow. So soon. Thank you bro.

[aerohead]

Been on the ramp all night in 16 deg weather,
missed the early show.
Getting ready to watch the 2am showing
and mega-stoked about it !

After years of stressing, getting called whack job conspiracy
theorists, laughed at, intimidated, sneered at, lied about and endless character
attacks........... BAM ! A slap right in their face ! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laughing1.gif)
Love it !

Ventura....... you're a hero brother.



From one Oathkeeper to another.......... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)




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[dadeets]

Dwain Deets just explained the flyover....

Well, that's not quite correct. Now that I've seen it, the explanation part ended on the cutting room floor.

Dwain

[paranoia]

cautiously optimistic - fingers crossed - but i still never trust anyone mainstream. the tvguide description for the epi alludes to ct's about missiles or explosives - so i have a feeling the 2 will be lumped 2gether and then summarily debunked. call me cynical, pessimistic, and or jaded - but thats what my 80% of my gut tells me...

20 percent of me says ventura is an honest guy and has enough control over the show's final edit to present the case honestly and clearly so that the undeniable implications wont go over people's heads.

i guess we'll see! but either way, great to see at least some outside attention finally given to this usually unmentioned truth.

i was part wrong - the show did not attempt to debunk anything, but instead presented (too) many questions and not enough answers (if any). so if one expected our precise and undebunkable facts about the pentagon event to become the crux of the show, they may have been disappointed. but the fact that the show included deets' mention of the flyover is indeed a victory imo. the downside is that it also presented the other less provable "theories" or suspicions with equal billing, giving them each their own mini-segments, and thus it failed to deliver what could be regarded as smoking gun truth. by being too broad and presenting too many speculative less-provable aspects of the pentagon "conspiracy", the show's net effect was limited. knowing what we know (noc = flyover) and how substantial its implications are, its hard not to be disappointed with the show for not focusing on it more. but again, the fact that it (flyover) got any mention at all, especially a chance for it to be said outright (albeit not explained in the necessary or desired detail), should imo still be regarded as a major step forward.


as i said before, i suspect ventura is a decent guy but he's not really there to stir the pot as much as he is portrayed doing so on the show. i honestly dont think he controls the show, i believe it is scripted and he plays the parts he is asked to play, while control over the final edit comes from above him, probably by way of producers who answer to others above themselves, who ultimately have a vested interest in not contributing to the actual truth but instead to control and or marginalize it.

even within the confines of that reality - or especially because of it - i think that getting 3-5 minutes of actual verifiable truth on national airwaves is a noteworthy accomplishment and like all the small holes that eventually lead to the dam breaking, is susbtantial in its own way - one that cant tangibly be measured or fully appreciated until later, when the (future) accomplishments it has paved the way for come to fruition.


on its own in the here and now, id like to send a proud salute and sincere thanks to aimer, deets, and rob for their efforts and contributions (overall and to the show). big thanks as well to everyone else who has been putting in work and making contributions to this truth and this cause. chip away, thats all we can do, and chip away we will until their wall of lies comes crumbling down for ALL to see. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/yes1.gif)

[aerohead]

Im watching it now.

Rob, you and Dwain did an excellent job.
Here comes Rusty !
AWESOME !

Man the Truth sucks, if your a criminal.


Id imagine there are some people exiting
stage left at this point......

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[gideon524]

I've been nervous about this episode for weeks because of all the fighting the Pentagon controversy has caused over the years. I was pretty worried that Ventura was going to shoot the movement in the foot because the show does tend to be a little melodramatic at times. But I guess that's how frightening information like this needs to be presented to a naive public that tends to have the attention span of a walnut. I must say I was very happy with what I saw. Lots of good information was covered and many good points were made. I think the people he interviewed represented the truth movement in a very respectable and professional manner. To see everybody's research come together like it has over the years into a solid show like the one that aired tonight still gives me a small sliver of hope(something I've unfortunately lost in recent years regarding the future of my country) that maybe, just maybe people will wake up in mass and start pushing back against this lying f***ing government.

Congrats, Rob. I recognized you as soon as I saw and heard you on the opening preview. Well done.

Truth on!
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Cheers (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

[Sanders]

I just realized, I meandered over here from the Loose Change forum all the way back in 2006 - four years??? My how time flies. And I remember that Rob and the team were quick on the task to get ahold of the FDR data and analyze it very soon after.

FINALLY ...

I hope many will be saying/thinking, huh? Whah? Evidence dispatched by the NTSB refutes the official story???

I mean, that is a big story, which has been sitting largely dormant. Kudos to Rob and Jesse and everyone ... maybe, finally, some eyes will get opened.

[lunk]

Excellent show!
(thought i'd post the link again)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZ14NRbT-s

[Omega892R09]

i was part wrong - the show did not attempt to debunk anything, but instead presented (too) many questions and not enough answers (if any). so if one expected our precise and undebunkable facts about the pentagon event to become the crux of the show, they may have been disappointed.

This seems to be a standard feature of most such TV programming - much padding and a poor accent on the essentials, often accompanied by inaccuracies in some of that essential detail.

If its on TV it has to be entertaining seems the watchword and never mind anybody watching for accurate information content. This is a shame considering all the effort Rob, Dwain, Rusty and others have put in but hey it is still something of a breakthrough.

As for feeds going down during broadcast this is the very type of anomaly that Barrie Zwicker has described - often suspicious.

I will reserve full judgment until I can watch the whole episode which, because of my health issues right now, will have to be after downloading so as to take it in small chunks.

However I am having trouble downloading this with Firefox, the object appears in the download list of the addon app but just sticks at 0 bytes - what am I missing?

[GroundPounder]

EXCELLENT !!!

[amazed!]

Great show last night!!! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

Jesse did a great job, but I wish he had mentioned the hearings held by McKinney over the missing money.

All in all a very even-handed presentation.

[tumetuestumefais...]

I've just watched the full episode and I think it is even more I expected. So excellent job. Especially the demonstrations of cockpits, in the flight simulator or voice morphing etc.
And the GE flyover from 5gon to Dover AFB (at 22:41) I find simply ingenious...
(IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/handsdown.gif) to all who participated in making this.
I'm going to make subtitles. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

[Omega892R09]

Just watched all through, nice job. Not much wrong with that after all. Not easy to cover everything in a short programme.

One for the archives, that is for sure.

Cannot seem to get it downloaded though. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[bill]

Great job, Rob

thanks for the link, lunk

[Quest]

Rob, a very good job by you, Mr. Deets and Jesse. A lot of great information that would leave anyone with a functioning brain to seriously doubt if not outright reject the official story even if Jesse's show was the 1st anyone ever heard of the Pentagon hoax. The one important item missing from the show was the fact of the Pentagon wing that had been hit had been undergoing a year-long renovation and the bomb planting, er, I mean, construction project had been completed on the morning of September 11th. Now THAT would have been a juicy tidbit. I say this because the entie "missle", "blackbox" story (same as the WTC and Shanksville events) keeps the possibility of "planes hitting tagets" alive but in the case of the Pentagon it was pointed out that there was a great opportunity to have planted bombs in the 'hit' wing that would have been enough to push most viewers over the edge. Another point to consider, could the show have been a veiled threat to any potential whstleblowers to never speak out lest they be treated to a special "surprise" like the Pentagon accounting department responsible for tracking the admited missing 2.3 trillion by Rumsfeld on September 10th? Hhhmmm....

One last note, the 911 perps who are in fact in control of the show's format as mentioned by I believe Paranoia, are counting on viewers to believe there is nothing to these "911 conspiracy theories" because they would not otherwise be allowed to air on TV. Once again, the 911 perps are hiding in plain sight.

All in all a good job and very informative. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

This post has been edited by Quest: Dec 18 2010, 01:46 PM

[aerohead]

The only thing i was disappointed about was that they didnt
show (atleast i think they didnt) the actual hole in the Pentagon
just after the initial explosion and before the implosion? Does anyone
have a correct picture of the hole they could post ?
I think it would help first time viewers understand why their is so much
controversy over the official account of a plane actually hitting the Pentagon.

Correct me if im wrong, but i believe it was 13 FT in diameter ?
Windows still intact where the vertical stab and wings/engines would have hit ?

[ungari]

I noticed that Ventura introduces Rob Balsamo as a "former Air Force pilot", and not a commercial pilot.
When checking the bio, there is no mention of the military service for Capt. Balsamo.
Is this accurate?