IPBFacebook



POSTS MADE TO THIS FORUM ARE THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE AUTHOR AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THE VIEWS OF PILOTS FOR 911 TRUTH
FOR OFFICIAL PILOTS FOR 9/11 TRUTH STATEMENTS AND ANALYSIS, PLEASE VISIT PILOTSFOR911TRUTH.ORG


DIGITAL DOWNLOADS

WELCOME - PLEASE REGISTER OR LOG IN FOR FULL FORUM ACCESS ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Oil Prices Keep Rising?

Obwon
post Apr 13 2011, 11:31 PM
Post #1





Group: Active Forum Pilot
Posts: 577
Joined: 29-November 09
From: NYC
Member No.: 4,712



Yeah, it's a complete mystery eh?
We're over there fighting Islamic extremists, and not doing
a very good job of protecting innocent civilians who are getting
killed or scooped up and imprisoned. All the while we're soft on
Israel's problems, okay! But we're buying our oil from Arabs who
are Islamic, while the flames of hatred are being fanned by various
people, like the pastor who burned the Koran etc. Then we wonder
why the price of oil is rising? Funny that!

Obwon
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
albertchampion
post Apr 14 2011, 12:46 AM
Post #2





Group: Extreme Forum Pilot
Posts: 1,843
Joined: 1-March 07
Member No.: 710



actually, it has nothing to do with that. what you think is happening is a cover.

the world is actually awash in crude oil. tank batteries in cushing and elsewhere are full.

there are tankers floating down to their gunwales filled with crude and refined product. parked all over the globe.

the real story is why is this crude being held off the market.

well, obombya is the creation of standard oil and its current inheritor of the throne, david rockefeller.

his lackeys will always hide from you the realities.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
DoYouEverWonder
post Apr 14 2011, 07:37 AM
Post #3





Group: Active Forum Pilot
Posts: 770
Joined: 1-February 09
Member No.: 4,096



Even though the POB keep telling us that we are running out of fossil fuels and can't keep up with the demand, that data proves otherwise.

----------

For decades, the US heating oil market has been shrinking, and the trend has continued in recent years, bringing a 26 percent decrease in heating oil consumption in the US between 2004 and 2009, the Associated Press reported on Friday.

HeatingOil.com


In 2009 the world's consumption of oil fell by 1.7%. That is the second consecutive year of decline, but relative to a decade ago consumption is up 11.1%. This is a reflection of both the weak world economy and of conservation efforts spurred by the extremely high oil prices in 2008. Consumption in the U.S. fell much further, dropping by 4.9% in 2009, and it was actually 4.3% below what it was in 1999 when oil prices were extremely low, but the economy was booming.

Zacks


Three years ago, petroleum-based gasoline consumption was the highest the U.S. had ever seen. But thanks in part to biofuels, including biodiesel and ethanol, the amount of gas we use has actually gone down since the peak of 2007.

This article in the Kansas City Star says that while the recession and the increased popularity of smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles has helped cut petroleum use, alternative fuels have done their part and will cover any expected increases in fuel use. And by 2035, American motorists are expected to use less gasoline than they do now:

“We’re on a slow but inexorable path away from petroleum. This is a big deal,” said James Williams, an analyst with WTRG Economics, an oil and gas consultancy.

That decline is reverberating through the oil industry. Refineries now use only 78.5 percent of their capacity, the lowest level since the federal government began routinely collecting the information in 1990. Valero Energy, which once bought refineries enthusiastically, now snaps up ethanol plants instead…

Federal tax incentives for ethanol, though widely criticized, have helped increase production from less than 1 billion gallons in 1992 to 10.5 billion last year. That reduces by 5 percent the amount of gas the country needs.

The article goes on to say that the Energy Information Administration believes that in the next 25 years, petroleum will still account for 88 percent of the fuel for cars and light trucks with the rest coming from mostly ethanol, followed by electricity, natural gas, hydrogen and propane. And some experts believe that alternative fuels could grow even faster if the right infrastructure is put in place.

Domestic Fuel.com
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
BarryWilliamsmb
post Apr 15 2011, 03:20 PM
Post #4





Group: Private Forum Pilot
Posts: 243
Joined: 30-September 07
From: Regina, Sask, Canada
Member No.: 2,278



I believed the peak oil thing in the beginning but then I pondered the cui bono aspect and that changed everything.

Almost seems to me that whomever is controlling world price is also screwing with our heads when it comes to pricing cause and effect.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
elreb
post Apr 15 2011, 04:44 PM
Post #5





Group: Extreme Forum Pilot
Posts: 2,589
Joined: 31-December 07
From: Maui
Member No.: 2,617




Since we are on the subject, both gasoline and diesel broke $5.00 per gallon on Maui.

This got me to wondering where the oil comes from and to my surprise…it is refined in Kapolei, Oahu.

The two major refiners are Chevron and Tesoro [who markets Shell].

Then I found this: By Rob Perez, Star-Bulletin

The per-barrel cost of manufacturing petroleum products, including gasoline at Tesoro Petroleum Corp.'s Oahu refinery last year was about one-third to one-half the comparable tab at its five mainland refineries, according to Tesoro data.

The fact that it cost Tesoro substantially less to make petroleum products here than on the mainland tends to dilute one of the main arguments the industry has used to justify high pump prices in Hawaii.

For years, the industry has maintained that motorists pay more here than on the mainland partly because of the high cost of doing business in the islands.

But data from Tesoro's annual report recently filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission show that per-barrel manufacturing costs, before depreciation and amortization, at the company's California refinery were more than three times the comparable amount at its Oahu refinery.


NOTE: Much of the crude oil comes from the Prudhoe Bay oil fields in Alaska
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
lunk
post Apr 15 2011, 05:33 PM
Post #6



Group Icon

Group: Administrator
Posts: 4,983
Joined: 1-April 07
Member No.: 875



There is a substitute for gasoline that can be mixed at any ratio, and will run a gasoline motor, without gasoline.
It is a fermentation byproduct that is also found in crude oil.

QUOTE
Butanol may be used as a fuel in an internal combustion engine. Because its longer hydrocarbon chain causes it to be fairly non-polar, it is more similar to gasoline than it is to ethanol. Butanol has been demonstrated to work in vehicles designed for use with gasoline without modification.[1] It can be produced from biomass (as "biobutanol")[2] as well as fossil fuels (as "petrobutanol"); but biobutanol and petrobutanol have the same chemical properties.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butanol_fuel

It used to be slightly more expensive to make, than gasoline.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
elreb
post Apr 15 2011, 05:59 PM
Post #7





Group: Extreme Forum Pilot
Posts: 2,589
Joined: 31-December 07
From: Maui
Member No.: 2,617



QUOTE (Obwon @ Apr 13 2011, 05:31 PM) *
Then we wonder why the price of oil is rising? Funny that!

It is sort of a catch 22 because as people conserve on consumables…companies just raise the price to make up for it.


Has nothing to do with Gadhafi or Mubarak or Charlie Sheen…


All retailers "value price" their merchandise. Meaning "what the market will bear". It's done in San Francisco, NY, etc. and usually not directly related to cost.


If you go to the market and buy a pineapple that is grown 1 mile from here…it is more expensive than buying it in California…after it travels 2000 miles.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
lunk
post Apr 15 2011, 06:35 PM
Post #8



Group Icon

Group: Administrator
Posts: 4,983
Joined: 1-April 07
Member No.: 875



QUOTE (elreb @ Apr 15 2011, 01:59 PM) *
It is sort of a catch 22 because as people conserve on consumables…companies just raise the price to make up for it.


Has nothing to do with Gadhafi or Mubarak or Charlie Sheen…


All retailers "value price" their merchandise. Meaning "what the market will bear". It's done in San Francisco, NY, etc. and usually not directly related to cost.


If you go to the market and buy a pineapple that is grown 1 mile from here…it is more expensive than buying it in California…after it travels 2000 miles.

Yes, but which one would you rather eat?
It's cheaper to by a can of mixed fruit from South Africa, then it is to buy the same weight in local produce.

It's called "interdependence". Taxpayers in countries around the world, pay to subsidize exports, and imports. Causing the price of locally grown food, to cost more than imports and encouraging local food producers to export.
Interdependence is like a diaper to any independent individual.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
elreb
post Apr 15 2011, 09:56 PM
Post #9





Group: Extreme Forum Pilot
Posts: 2,589
Joined: 31-December 07
From: Maui
Member No.: 2,617



QUOTE (lunk @ Apr 15 2011, 12:35 PM) *
Yes, but which one would you rather eat?

Local “Ono” [Wahoo]; Angus beef, tomatoes, onions, pineapples, coffee, poke, and “Kalua” pig is some of the best in the world.

The locals utilize an “Imu” and steam pig or turkey underground with Banana leaves and Koa or Kiawe wood…

Can you put that in a can?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
elreb
post Apr 20 2011, 08:57 PM
Post #10





Group: Extreme Forum Pilot
Posts: 2,589
Joined: 31-December 07
From: Maui
Member No.: 2,617



Despite the “fact” that Shell [Tesoro] and Chevron operate at ½ to 1/3 the cost of California…

Gasoline is up to $5.12 per gallon which is over $100 to fill your tank.

Basically, Hawaii is matching California…I guess that’s fair Gluttony.

Under consumption = over indulgence = less taxes for the wealthy = !!!!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Sanders
post Apr 21 2011, 03:11 AM
Post #11



Group Icon

Group: Administrator
Posts: 7,990
Joined: 13-September 06
Member No.: 49



The elite want 'one-world-government'. Them in charge. The son of Paul Warburg, from the Warbug family who presides over the oldest bank in the world, and who is regarded as the architect of the Federal Reserve system, James Paul Warburg (the son), stated that it (one-world-government) would come, "by consent or by conquest". He said this, in those words and on the record, in front of a US Senate subcommittee all the way back in 1950.

How do they accomplish that?

Well, first, they have to destroy the value of the (international reserve currency) US dollar and the US spirit of LIBERTY .... to level the "global" playing field. ... Pursuant to a global currency &, to use Hillary Clinton's words(?) ... "village".

That's what we are witnessing in real time.

I predicted it ... they are doing it.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 




RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 11th November 2019 - 06:01 PM