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What Say You ?, The Last, True, Patriot President

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post Aug 14 2009, 05:55 PM
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=srstQVfVNEM

This youtube shows James W. Douglass, the author of JFK and the Unspeakable: WHY HE DIED AND WHY IT MATTERS. He talks about his book.

When I put this youtube on another forum it automatically embedded. This is not even highlighting so it can be clicked on.

Talk - JFK and the Unspeakable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srstQVfVNEM

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post Aug 14 2009, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (truthmatters @ Aug 12 2009, 08:55 PM) *
www.youtube.com/watch?v=srstQVfVNEM

This youtube shows James W. Douglass, the author of JFK and the Unspeakable: WHY HE DIED AND WHY IT MATTERS. He talks about his book.


good video w/ one caveat. i have no reverence for lincoln - none- zero. read 'Lincoln Unmasked' by Thomas J. DiLorenzo. lincoln is directly responsible for ~620,000 deaths among other things.

Aerohead - i can appreciate your zeal and i too am hopeful...time will tell.
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post Aug 15 2009, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Aug 18 2009, 07:00 PM) *
good video w/ one caveat. i have no reverence for lincoln - none- zero...



He did create the Greenback, which threatened to cut the banks out of the currency racket. Ironic that the same year he was killed many large banks received permission to issue "National Currency". But he didn't start printing those because he was a great guy, or even a defender of liberty ... he did it because he was out of money and up against a wall as to how to fund the Civil War (Bank of England was asking for something like 30% interest to loan him money). Doesn't matter, the Greenback had to be eliminated, and in order to do that they had to eliminate Lincoln.

Jackson's another president who elicits a mixed review - he "killed the bank" (Second National Bank of the US) and paid off the national debt. In staving off the power of the bankers he was a true hero, and there was in fact a failed attempt on his life. But he was also one of the worst offenders regarding US relations with native American Indians. The Trail of Tears happened on his watch, and he wasn't just a bystander.
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post Aug 15 2009, 04:20 PM
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greenback and foreign intrigue aside, the man was a monster. lincoln was tyranny personified which is anathema to liberty. i bet he even swore 'to uphold and defend the constitution' with a straight face.

power corrupts...
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post Aug 15 2009, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Aug 19 2009, 02:20 PM) *
greenback and foreign intrigue aside, the man was a monster. lincoln was tyranny personified which is anathema to liberty. i bet he even swore 'to uphold and defend the constitution' with a straight face.

power corrupts...


I didn't make my point clear enough ... not nearly.

Good, bad, evil, hero, ... just a bunch of irrelevant words. Lincoln, Jackson, Kennedy, they were all three bastards in some respects and defenders of the people in other respects, even if unintentionally.

Say that Lincoln was an evil constitution-thwarting son-of-a-bitch, fine, but he introduced the greenback, and that threatened the ability of the bankers to take their pound of flesh via the issuance of currency. It was a big enough of a deal for them to kill him over it.

One needs to think of these things in economic terms and throw out all the good-vs.-bad stuff!
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QUOTE (Sanders @ Aug 13 2009, 07:39 PM) *
I didn't make my point clear enough ... not nearly.

Good, bad, evil, hero, ... just a bunch of irrelevant words. Lincoln, Jackson, Kennedy, they were all three bastards in some respects and defenders of the people in other respects, even if unintentionally.

Say that Lincoln was an evil constitution-thwarting son-of-a-bitch, fine, but he introduced the greenback, and that threatened the ability of the bankers to take their pound of flesh via the issuance of currency. It was a big enough of a deal for them to kill him over it.

One needs to think of these things in economic terms and throw out all the good-vs.-bad stuff!



clear as mud...words are irrelevant to some. to others they have meaning. feel free to equivocate. it is a standard human facility. his actions speak for themselves. do you seek to minimize the deaths as irrelevant? you have spent so much time looking at the forest, you're missing the trees.
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post Aug 15 2009, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Aug 19 2009, 03:01 PM) *
....you have spent so much time looking at the forest, you're missing the trees.


Fair enough. I've been searching for the forest.
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post Aug 16 2009, 08:13 AM
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An idea, not necessarily my idea.

I have heard a couple of good ones, though.
A simple one, is give whatever you don't need to somebody who does need it.

Another idea, the whole system is following a step by step agenda,
there is only 1 agenda that is being pushed, if one of these steps is skipped or lingered on too long, this agenda could go in a direction that was never anticipated by the system, which "they" will have no solution to, in the waiting.
We can't fight them head on, they are prepared for that, but we may be able to veer their agenda in a direction that they could never have anticipated.

My idea, is to come up with a better future plan for these "elite" then they have already, for themselves, and they will gladly abort this one we are going through now.

For instance, if everybody in the world was self-sufficient in supplying all their own basic needs, we could all stand alone, and there would no longer be the need or desire for continuing this directed agenda.

Anyhow, in the mean time, the more people "awake",
the more ideas for solutions to this, and these problems.

BTW, the next step in their agenda is to cause 30 years of riots,
starting in the south, and moving north, world wide!
(that is what they say they are planning for)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc3j8BFQy9E
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post Aug 17 2009, 02:25 AM
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This is what i know.........

If you have to have secret meetings to discuss
your plans, kill people from the comfort of
a hidden control center, lie to gain allegiance,
and rape steal and manipulate from an office desk
in a fortified bunker or a hill top mansion.........

Then you are an absolute coward, and cowards are weak.
Cowards avoid confrontation and have others do their
dirty work for them, because they cant handle the
stress or the blood and they lack the intestinal fortitude
to carry out their great plans in person that they have generated from
the virtual world of computer aided statistics, video game-like
operations and then watching their handy-work on the 6 O'clock
news. This is not the work of brave men with integrity, character and
honor. This is the work of cowardly children with too much money
and a desire for power.

Cowards are easily beaten.

History has proven this,
and history will prove it again.

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post Aug 17 2009, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (aerohead @ Aug 17 2009, 02:25 AM) *
This is not the work of brave men with integrity, character and
honor. This is the work of cowardly children with too much money
and a desire for power.

Cowards are easily beaten.

History has proven this,
and history will prove it again.



Good point, and thanks for the reminder.
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post Aug 19 2009, 03:23 AM
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Absolutely.

False fear is all they have and all they have used
to control and manipulate us all.

I have had enough and i refuse to be afraid anymore.
Especially not from men of no character, low caliber and
cowardice.

And if they want to take a shot at me, they better hit me
the first time, or be prepared for return fire.
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post Aug 19 2009, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE (JimMac @ Aug 17 2009, 08:17 AM) *
Good point, and thanks for the reminder.

[Actually "aero," I'm "about to" reply to the post below this one...

But let's quote the WISE part again-]

QUOTE ( A. Wise Man)
This is not the work of brave men with integrity, character and
honor. This is the work of cowardly children with too much money
and a desire for power.

Cowards are easily beaten.

History has proven this,
and history will prove it again.


Of course...

Some have rumored that I/"mine" have a "bit 'o the ol' Pirate stock" in me...

Neither confirm nor deny... ........

So who's up for a U.S. Senate seat? wink.gif

EDIT: Sorry there aero- still looking up other things semi-frantically...

AND still looking....
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post Aug 21 2009, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE (dMole @ Aug 19 2009, 04:25 AM)
[Actually "aero," I'm "about to" reply to the post below this one...

But let's quote the WISE part again-]



Of course...

Some have rumored that I/"mine" have a "bit 'o the ol' Pirate stock" in me...

Neither confirm nor deny... ........

So who's up for a U.S. Senate seat? wink.gif

EDIT: Sorry there aero- still looking up other things semi-frantically...

AND still looking....



I would take a seat in a hot minute, and make it my mission
in life to disassemble the machine bolt by bolt.

And my point is this.
I will not fear anyone. Especially not an agency who's very
purpose in creation is to protect me and my country. I mean this is totally
backwards. There seems to be a common belief in this
country that we should fear to speak the truth because we
could be murdered by the CIA or the FBI or some other government
agency. Does this seem totally backwards to anyone else ?
The agencies who are charged with our protection, now have the
reputation of intimidators and eliminators of questioners of our government ?
I have had enough of government fear mongering and i refuse
to fear the Swine Flu, or economic collapse or terrorists or travelling
or anything else.

Fear IS CONTROL. And i will not be controlled by anyone.
I am a free man and will remain so until i die.
Any coward can assassinate someone from a distance, just like
the cowards that killed Kennedy. That was not a brave act, or
something noble or something to fear. That was pathetic and
cowardly. He was riding in car with his wife, socializing with
the citizens that had elected him. Gunned down by cowards
that couldn't even face him like a man. While his wife had to
pick up pieces of his bloody skull off the trunk of the car, in
complete shock and panic. And to think that those responsible
were reveling in their accomplishment......makes me physically
ill.
They had not even a microscopic sliver of JFK's intestinal fortitude
or decency to commit such a cowardly act. May they find hell to be
all it is cracked up to be.
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post Aug 21 2009, 05:36 AM
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Great post aerohead, here here.
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post Aug 21 2009, 12:53 PM
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Thank you Sanders,
and the bottom line is this.....

Fear is a dominator, an unsympathetic master
and a paralyzing tyrant that can totally enslave
its victims.
This is why people seeking power love to use this tyranyt
to do their dirty work. Incapacitating the masses from seeing
their true plans and then moving forward in secret with
intimidation of the peoples' representatives. Never coming
into open and honest confrontation with the people, only
very carefully chosen puppets. But the tyrant is easily
defeated when the people are made aware of the fact that
the power seeker is actually a coward, and that he has hypnotized
them with this tyrant of illusion. They then become aware of their
own personal power in this world and their absolute birth-right to
live without a master of any kind.


The fear game is over.
The sleeping giant is awake, and his name is the American Patriot.


Anyone can take my life,
but no-one will take my freedom.

-Aero
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i had a reply before a thunderstorm cut my electricity...

anyway aerohead,

don't be a martyr- plenty of those already
be wise my friend, summer patriots don't have your back any more than peter did back in new testament days:
"Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. ..."

and you are correct, it ain't about fear.
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post Aug 21 2009, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Aug 21 2009, 06:32 PM) *
i had a reply before a thunderstorm cut my electricity...

anyway aerohead,

don't be a martyr- plenty of those already
be wise my friend, summer patriots don't have your back any more than peter did back in new testament days:
"Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. ..."

and you are correct, it ain't about fear.



Im trying to be wise, but to me, there comes a time
when you have to say what needs said regardless
of what it is. And fear seems to be THE obstacle of
the truth movement. I mean some people are afraid
to watch a video that is posted, fearing some spy program
will identify them and black helicopters are gonna fly over
their house.
No martyrdom here, just sayin' ive had enough of the fear mongering
and the intimidation reputations. Im free and not afraid.

Peace brother
-Aero

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