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Bbc World Report Of Wtc 7 Collapse At 4:57 Pm Est?, Merged w/BBC Messes up WTC 7 Reporting

painter
post Feb 26 2007, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (Carl Bank @ Feb 26 2007, 02:42 PM)
Can someone please contact Gideon?!

Gideon has got a huge storage of original footage of that day.
He got almost everything, and I really wonder, why this is discovered so lately.
In adddition to that, I want to know who uploaded this to google and I also
ask myselve, why noone found this before.

It smells like some kind of trap. It is too obviouse.

Someone here who remember the Zbginiew Brzinski thread?
Where Zbiggy told the senat to calm down and steady on the Iran-attacing-idea?

Is is possible that "They" want to pull the Cheney-Bush-Neocon-Junta now,
because they didn't serve as puppets as the masters wanted them to do, but
instead overacted for private profits (Carlyle/Halliburton e.g.) instead of focussing
on the 'Big Plan'?

sigh: Carl

Carl, you and I think alike.

It smells like a trap to me, too. Too easy. Too sudden. Unknown origin. Not seen before.

Not saying it is or isn't, I've just learned to be very wary of things that show up out of the blue like this.
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post Feb 26 2007, 06:52 PM
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Interesting points CB / Painter.

Does anyone actually have confirmation of how this was obtained?

I wanna believe this is genuine, cos if it is then it's one huge rocket up the ass of the perpetrators, but we must be cautious.

Calming down: The other CB tongue.gif
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Im waiting to see a statement from the BBC.
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Graham
post Feb 26 2007, 07:38 PM
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just working through the source.

on a side note: pentagon witness... "it kinda hit short, and sprayed up against the side"

really? blink.gif that a version I haven't heard. laugh.gif

Sen John Warner. "This is a New Pearl Harbour".

They don't actually mention it on that suroce file. which mean downloading then next one. which is causing me greif.

so they don't mention it until at least 17.36. and how much ?

go nuts.

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=co...ort=-publicdate
Massive 9/11 TV archive. Keep in mind these are 41 minute 1 gig MPEG-2's.
There is also September 10th news coverage there. This is everything there
from during or after the attacks.

NBC4 Washington
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ABC7 Washington

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CNN

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CBS9 Washington

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post Feb 26 2007, 07:56 PM
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This might be related somehow, out of nowhere today the JFK II assasination, the Bush connection (google video) is at position 10 with 42k views worldwide, but you can't find this video in the top 100 in any country, how can we explain this ?

Could it be they want the Iran attack to be stopped, or are they putting pressure for this attack to go forward ?
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post Feb 26 2007, 08:07 PM
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ok... looks like 911veritas from blogger was the first to put this up and would explain why he put or site in the video at the end....

911Veritas supports our work and always gives kudos when i post a blog over at blogger.



http://www.911blogger.com/node/6458#comment-119447
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post Feb 26 2007, 08:25 PM
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Don't hold your breathe waiting for them to acknowledge the footage. The cat is completely out of the bag...

This isn't any different than MSNBC's coverage that day.

I vividly remember watching Ashley Banfield announce that WTC 7 was coming down and the anchor (Brian Williams) telling her she should seek refuge...he says "they have been watching it all day."

Whoever has the original MSNBC's coverage it is pretty damning as well! Found it (below).... Certainly nothing compared to the BBC coverage!!! However if anyone has extended coverage of Ashley, I think she even says they are telling us this is coming down!!!!



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...+WTC+7+collapse

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post Feb 26 2007, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (painter @ Feb 26 2007, 10:48 PM)
QUOTE (Carl Bank @ Feb 26 2007, 02:42 PM)
Can someone please contact Gideon?!

Gideon has got a huge storage of original footage of that day.
He got almost everything, and I really wonder, why this is discovered so lately.
In adddition to that, I want to know who uploaded this to google and I also
ask myselve, why noone found this before.

It smells like some kind of trap. It is too obviouse.

Someone here who remember the Zbginiew Brzinski thread?
Where Zbiggy told the senat to calm down and steady on the Iran-attacing-idea?

Is is possible that "They" want to pull the Cheney-Bush-Neocon-Junta now,
because they didn't serve as puppets as the masters wanted them to do, but
instead overacted for private profits (Carlyle/Halliburton e.g.) instead of focussing
on the 'Big Plan'?

sigh: Carl

Carl, you and I think alike.

It smells like a trap to me, too. Too easy. Too sudden. Unknown origin. Not seen before.

Not saying it is or isn't, I've just learned to be very wary of things that show up out of the blue like this.

One thing is for sure:

IF this will lead to a widespread attention of the mass media
on the 9/11 cover up and in consequence lead to let some
(more or less) minor heads roll, we will know: It was a trap.
Did anyone follow my thread about "A frightening idea I had yesterday" ?
It is possible, that the sh!t will hit the fan before summer, but I guess, like all of us, I am

standing too close to the fan: Carl
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Live Leak has a copy

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49f_1172526096
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Does it really matter if it's a "trap" or not? Someone is trying to let the truth out for whatever reason, and that can only be good. It can hopefully lead to more eyes being opened, which will make it that much harder to pull the NEXT stunt.
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QUOTE (Carl Bank @ Feb 26 2007, 07:26 PM)
QUOTE (painter @ Feb 26 2007, 10:48 PM)
QUOTE (Carl Bank @ Feb 26 2007, 02:42 PM)
Can someone please contact Gideon?!

Gideon has got a huge storage of original footage of that day.
He got almost everything, and I really wonder, why this is discovered so lately.
In adddition to that, I want to know who uploaded this to google and I also
ask myselve, why noone found this before.

It smells like some kind of trap. It is too obviouse.

Someone here who remember the Zbginiew Brzinski thread?
Where Zbiggy told the senat to calm down and steady on the Iran-attacing-idea?

Is is possible that "They" want to pull the Cheney-Bush-Neocon-Junta now,
because they didn't serve as puppets as the masters wanted them to do, but
instead overacted for private profits (Carlyle/Halliburton e.g.) instead of focussing
on the 'Big Plan'?

sigh: Carl

Carl, you and I think alike.

It smells like a trap to me, too. Too easy. Too sudden. Unknown origin. Not seen before.

Not saying it is or isn't, I've just learned to be very wary of things that show up out of the blue like this.

One thing is for sure:

IF this will lead to a widespread attention of the mass media
on the 9/11 cover up and in consequence lead to let some
(more or less) minor heads roll, we will know: It was a trap.
Did anyone follow my thread about "A frightening idea I had yesterday" ?
It is possible, that the sh!t will hit the fan before summer, but I guess, like all of us, I am

standing too close to the fan: Carl

Carl, under which thread is your 'frightening thought'? I would love to see it, but I can't find it. Thanks.
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QUOTE (biggahthebettah @ Feb 27 2007, 12:37 AM)
Does it really matter if it's a "trap" or not? Someone is trying to let the truth out for whatever reason, and that can only be good. It can hopefully lead to more eyes being opened, which will make it that much harder to pull the NEXT stunt.

On first hand, you are right. And i thought the same myselve for some time,
but after you realize, that the powers behind always think one step beyond the next step,
it becomes clear, that the 'truth' is always a part of their game.

If something like this happens, you can always be sure, that it was planned exactly the way it happened.

It is like in football (or, if you are european: in soccer wink.gif ):
You can INFLUENCE a game by supporting one team,
but when you want to CONTROL the game, you have to be in control
of BOTH teams.

That is, why some of us (e.g. Painter, Zap or me) are speaking of a trap.

We are not only focussed on the outcome of the game, we want
the powers who control it to be exposed.

And in this case, we in the movement are not only "rearranging the deck chairs on the 'Titanic'",
we are "rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg'".

If this will blow up to quick, the chance of making people waking up on the bigger picture
might be lost. Or is not relevant for the moment anymore due to the Chaos, that will
follow. The worldwide chaos.

seeing the forest instead of trees: Carl
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I do have a lot of coverage, unfortunately, almost nothing from the BBC.

I've never seen this clip, AND STILL HAVEN'T because, g**d**n, c**ks**king, moth**f**king, fascist bl**ing Google pulled the video(no pun intended). angry.gif

That should put up some red flags to the legitimacy of this video.

Pardon my French. I just reeeeeally hate censorship.

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QUOTE (biggahthebettah @ Feb 27 2007, 01:02 AM)
Carl, under which thread is your 'frightening thought'?  I would love to see it, but I can't find it.  Thanks.

I will quote it for you here:

Carl Bank:
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Yesterday, I had a long discussion whith my cousin about 9/11 and the NWO.

We both are aware of the forces behind the curtain since 1995, when we read
"Geheimgesellschaften und Ihre Macht im 20. Jahrhundert" ("Secret Societies and their
power in the 20th Century) pts. 1&2 by Jan van Helsing.

These books were forbidden by German Constitutional Court, calleing them "sedition"
(incitement of the people). After the lecture, we watched the attacs on 9/11 with different
eyes and knew, that van Helsing was right (he predicted an attac in SF, LA or NYC and wrote that this will be the pretext to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.)

Yesterday, we talked about Zbigniew Brzezinski and his speech in the senate.

Knowing the main plan of "ORDO AB CHAO" (order out of chaos) and to reduce the
word population to 25% and installing a world-gouvernement with its capitol in Jerusalem,
we had this scary idea:

What if we are right and the puppets (Bush/Cheney/Neocon kabale) don't follow their
masters (Illuminati/CFR/Trilateral comission/ancient aristocracy) plan and Zbigniew Brzezinski
made just a last warning to them. What if 'They' will use 9/11 to blow up the entire
neocon-system to bring chaos before time and let israel stay 'clean' whithout the need to attac Iran?
The dollar will be 'pulled' immedeately to its REAL worth (less then 0,01 €), the world
economy will sink into chaos worse than '29 and most people will slaughter themselves
just for food and energy (gas/oil). Than they can bring "ORDO AB CHAO" by
setting a new world-gouvernement whithout the need to take the 'long path' to it...

This would mean, that WE are the catalyst for Armageddon RIGHT NOW by uncovering 9/11.

Any ideas if I am just paranoid?

scared: Carl


waterdancer:
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Don't be scared Carl. They'd find a way to do it without us. Rest easy on that score. They already have their timetable pencilled in. We need to reprogram the Armageddon paradigm, IMO. (that's all of us collectively, not just truthers, per se). Otherwise, humanity is just plain f*cked. Since I don't believe in hell, I'm not to concerned about the afterlife stuff, but I'd hate to see us mess up such a beautiful world. More than we already have, at least. I'd like to hang around long enough to witness us start to clean up our messes.


Painter:
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Carl,

There are all kinds of ideas floating around in the world about what is happening, who is in control, etc. I highly recommend that you not buy into any one over any other. THEY (people attempting to benefit from the world as it is) don't. What they DO is use their access to information to make decisions that benefit their aim and goal.

I've been saying for a long time now, we need to be very clear about what it is that IS our aim and goal and we need to make decisions based in the light of these aims.

Secret societies are a dime a dozen -- and most of them offer nothing much except 'networking' with people of like mind, social class, etc. Although they use the hoodoo voodoo stuff, most don't have any special 'magic' to make things happen in their favor -- except their access to 'intelligence' and their willingness to do whatever is necessary, regardless of the ethical or moral considerations, to achieve their aims.

We have something else -- or could, if people here would begin to take the true meaning of esotericism seriously.


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I said the same thing after Brzezinski's speech, Carl.  I agree that his comments may be highly significant of something going on behind the scenes.

The good thing, if we are correct, is the Cheney/Bush/Neocon cabal may have overstepped their bounds (Brzezinki saying such things on the Senate floor can only mean the Cheney team are ignoring the suggestions of their 'old elite' bosses??) - and will be allowed to take a fall - and, by definition,  the truth of 9/11 to come out. (!?!) - I'll let everyone extrapolate on their own what the bad news implicated in that might be... (hints are enclosed in Carl's post).

But we're all just guessing.


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Let me just add, that the only reason the Bush_Cheney crowd hasn't been able to act with impunity, follow through with all their plans, is us.  Everyone pat yourselves on the back.


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I said the same thing after Brzezinski's speech, Carl.  I agree that his comments may be highly significant of something going on behind the scenes.

The good thing, if we are correct, is the Cheney/Bush/Neocon cabal may have overstepped their bounds (Brzezinki saying such things on the Senate floor can only mean the Cheney team are ignoring the suggestions of their 'old elite' bosses??) - and will be allowed to take a fall - and, by definition,  the truth of 9/11 to come out. (!?!) - I'll let everyone extrapolate on their own what the bad news implicated in that might be... (hints are enclosed in Carl's post).

But we're all just guessing.

When the truth about 9/11 will come out, it will make
every people of every nation directly or indirectly involved
in the cover-up VERY suspiciouse about THEIR own gouverment.

That doesn't mean the UK only. Gouverments in Spain, Germany,
Poland, Canada, Japan, ...almost EVRYWHERE will face a highly
doubtful and angry public. This could lead to a world-revolution...but:

In the same moment, the world economy will implode.
We all learned in the 80ies, that this kapitalistic system of 'Money'
is like a 'chain letter'. It is not endless. A system in which money becomes
MORE just by letting it hang around at a bank cannot last infinitly,
and so many analysts spoke up and told us, that this system comes to an end
whithin our lifetime.

Imagine this 2 scenarios combined in the same moment:
Dozens of nations angry and in REAL BIG TIME DOUBT about their gouvernements
AND the collaps of the financial system into its own footprints (to stay in 9/11 terms).

This woud be a global chaos that will undoubtably result in a whole lot of civil wars,
anarchy, developing tens of thousends of violent tribes, gangs and 'organisations' and
in the death of millions, if not billions of people not strong enough to fight for
their life day by day.

9/11 will be a trigger of something that will be compared to 9/11
like the Hiroshima bomb compared with a hand grenade.

Sorry for calling a spade a spade, but this vision spoiled my day a little bit.
Ok, I am not scared by this, but curious if there will be another outcome.

Or shall I say 'hopeful'?

My cousin nailed it to the point, when he said in the end of our discussion:

The one thing I hope for, is that a giant face will appear in the sky that
will say loud and understandable for everyone:

"Ok, jokes over. Stop this now."

Carl
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post Feb 26 2007, 09:21 PM
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Click the link, Gideon:

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I can still watch it

anyone know how to download it ?

the download doesn't seem to work now



:DAMN:

Click here:
DOWNLOAD of the "BBC knew in advance that WTC7 will collapse, but failed to tell us the Lottery-numbers of tomorrow"-flick (183,4 MB AVI)

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No go, Carl. sad.gif
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QUOTE (gideon524 @ Feb 26 2007, 05:36 PM)
No go, Carl.  sad.gif

Gideon,

I'm going to give you three.

First:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49f_1172526096

Second (via rapid share):

http://rs68.rapidshare.com/files/18446864/BBC_WTC7.mp4

And this is the raw footage from the archive:
http://ia311517.us.archive.org/2/items/bbc...6/V08591-16.mpg
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Try this link to view the video
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QUOTE (gideon524 @ Feb 27 2007, 01:36 AM)
No go, Carl. sad.gif

Wow, thats really strange!

From my place (Berlin/Germany, DSL via 1&1.de) the download
is still working.

Does the US got a special censor-way to keep their web users away from data?

lucky this time not to live in the land of the free: Carl
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Thank you, painter.

All I have to say is "holy sh*t!"

My gut tells me this report is legit.
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