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Why Americans Elect Awful Presidents

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post Sep 6 2010, 10:52 AM
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For years I muttered mentally to myself about the insanity of Americans electing George W. Bush president. Now I go through the same agony about the craziness of the nation electing Barack Obama president. As much as I thought Bush was a manipulated second-rate politician that carried out the terribly destructive policies pushed by Cheney and other conservative corporate shills, now I feel equally angry that so many voters fell for the slick rhetoric and lies of Obama. Disgust produces public thirst for change and Obama was wickedly brilliant at selling change. When voters are so easily victimized what does democracy amount to?

All this tells me that any nation that can elect such inept people president can also elect other people that appear to have no right or chance to be president of the United States just as Bush and Obama once appeared before they were sold to the public. That is what is so frightening about the future of this nation. The two-party plutocracy with its stranglehold on the American political system has the power to elect presidents that are an insult to the great ones that once served the nation with pride and competence.

I keep searching for explanations why millions of American voters make such bad electoral decisions. Are they just so stupid, uninformed and distracted that they fall for endless political lies? Have Americans become so easily manipulated and fooled by advertising and brilliant political campaigns that they can be sold terrible presidents as easily as unneeded, low quality and unhealthy products?

Yes, all this seems too true. Delusional voters have produced our delusional democracy which strongly favors corporate, wealthy and elitist interests over ordinary Americans. This explains frightening economic inequality and the demise of the middle class. In the late 1970s, the richest 1 percent of American families took in about 9 percent of the nationís total income; by 2007, the top 1 percent took in 23.5 percent of total income (less than 5 million people). Two-thirds of the nationís total income gains from 2002 to 2007 flowed to this sliver of households, which saw a rise of 62 percent, compared to 4 percent for the bottom 90 percent of households. Today, the median male worker earns less, adjusted for inflation, than he did 30 years ago. A corrupt bipartisan system gave us this. Is this the change you were waiting for?

Considering Bush and Obama from a right-left perspective misses their several critical commonalities. Both have wasted the nationís wealth and lives on two ludicrous, unnecessary wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Both turned out to be pretty good communicators during their presidential campaigns but quite lousy after they became president. The more intelligent and articulate Obama is particularly striking in being totally lackluster when it comes to addressing major issues and crises and building public support for his policies, which now explains his very low approval ratings.

Both pursued public policies and government programs that preferentially benefit corporate and other special interests, especially the financial sector. This is no surprise because both depended on huge amounts of corporate money to get elected. They both have responsibility for the economic meltdown that still exists for a large fraction of the nation. A large majority of Americans correctly see the nation on the wrong track, but more importantly it is hurtling down the wrong track, which President Obama ignores, because he lacks solutions.

What may turn out to be the most disturbing similarity is that Obama may get elected for a second term just like Bush accomplished despite uninspiring performance. If there is anything more disturbing than electing awful politicians with no real record of accomplishments it is reelecting them for a second term! More than anything else this demonstrates the absence of true, effective political competition and the ability to brainwash and manipulate voters.

For years I hoped that some third party presidential candidate would emerge, capture public confidence and offer a true reform program to repair our nation. But sadly the political system has been so corrupted that no third party presidential candidate stands a chance against the two-party plutocracy. The biggest nonsense is that the US is the greatest democracy on Earth. There are many other democracies where multiple political parties give citizens far more choices than Americans have. It pays to remember that no nation ever copied the government structure of the US. Instead, other democracies where citizens also have freedom use parliamentary structures with far more political choices and even the ability to more easily get rid of rotten leaders. Here we suffer with disappointing presidents for far too many years.

The most fascinating aspect of our constitutional republic is that one constitutional path to get true, deep reforms of our government and political system has never been used. This proves how powerful, entrenched interests on the right and left have maintained a corrupt, dysfunctional and costly system. Very, very few Americans know anything about the option in Article V of the Constitution for a convention of state delegates that could propose constitutional amendments. You can learn the facts at the Friends of the Article V Convention website. The one and only requirement for a convention has long been met but Congress refuses to obey the Constitution. They fear it. We need it more than ever.

A constitutional scholar such as President Obama could make history by openly demanding that Congress convene the first Article V convention. But that would require dropping the constitutional hypocrisy that he and so many others have. The rule of law is a farce when an important part of the beloved Constitution is ignored.

[Contact Joel S. Hirschhorn through delusionaldemocracy.com.]
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post Sep 6 2010, 11:52 AM
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Americans aren't allowed to elect good presidents (or even good congressmen) anymore. Most Americans, I'm embarrassed to say, are too stupid to discern, but even if and when they do the voting is rigged. No chance of a "good" president ever being elected again - even if 99% of the people supported such a candidate. They've ™ got it sewn up from every angle. They manufacture the outcome via electrocnic voting machines, to what extent they feel is necessary.

This is why 3rd party candidates will never get air time or recognition. It's RIGGED.
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post Sep 7 2010, 02:36 AM
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i wrote a lengthy response. but it was eaten. and i am not going to spend the time to rewrite it tonight.

but sanders has it accurately. voting is RIGGED. that is what brad friedman says at bradblog.com. that is what mark crispin miller observed in the 2004 election in ohio.

that is what i knew as a citizen of the state of ohio in the 1950's - 1960's - 1970's - 1980's. and probably onwards unto the present day.

in my appraisal, there has never been an honest ballot count in the usa. free and fair elections are one of the great illusions.

the standards of tammany hall prevail everywhere. as i think george washington plunkitt once said, money rules the ballot box.

which says everything about the federal republic of the usa.
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post Sep 7 2010, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE (albertchampion @ Sep 7 2010, 06:36 AM) *
i wrote a lengthy response. but it was eaten. and i am not going to spend the time to rewrite it tonight.

but sanders has it accurately. voting is RIGGED. that is what brad friedman says at bradblog.com. that is what mark crispin miller observed in the 2004 election in ohio.

that is what i knew as a citizen of the state of ohio in the 1950's - 1960's - 1970's - 1980's. and probably onwards unto the present day.

in my appraisal, there has never been an honest ballot count in the usa. free and fair elections are one of the great illusions.

the standards of tammany hall prevail everywhere. as i think george washington plunkitt once said, money rules the ballot box.

which says everything about the federal republic of the usa.

Im afraid it goes on all over the world,as they say follow the money to find out who really rules.
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post Jan 24 2011, 04:11 PM
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They've got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen."

ó Huey Long, campaign speech for the re-election of Senator Hattie Caraway (D-AR), 1932 (Williams p. 589)
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post Jan 30 2011, 10:26 PM
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Julian Assange for President!!!

He kicked ass and took names in the interview with 60Minutes! cheers.gif

Assange had an answer for everything Steve Croft asked him. I think Croft conducted a good and fair interview.
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post Jan 31 2011, 01:02 AM
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because the banksters, the oligarchs, furnish no choices.

it is a rigged casino.
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post Feb 1 2011, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE (albertchampion @ Jan 31 2011, 12:02 AM) *
because the banksters, the oligarchs, furnish no choices.

it is a rigged casino.


Yep.

1 Blue pig and 1 Red pig = 2 pigs

We need 1 Lion, with an appetite for corrupt politicians and bankers.
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post Feb 1 2011, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (Travis @ Jan 24 2011, 03:11 PM) *
They've got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen."

— Huey Long, campaign speech for the re-election of Senator Hattie Caraway (D-AR), 1932 (Williams p. 589)

That's why it should be no surprise that the 2004 campaign between Bush/Cheney and Kerry/Edwards was run by the same PR firm, Quinn Gillespie.

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QUOTE (amazed! @ Jan 30 2011, 09:26 PM) *
Julian Assange for President!!!

He kicked ass and took names in the interview with 60Minutes! cheers.gif

Assange had an answer for everything Steve Croft asked him. I think Croft conducted a good and fair interview.

Croft was sweating bullets. He looked like he want to tear Assange apart, by Assange wasn't giving him even an inch of rope. Very hard to deal with an adversary when they keep turning the other cheek.
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firstly, croft is an intell operative. groomed by the cia, dia, et alia.

what would you like for wikileaks to reveal, by the way?

my choice: i would like to see decades of the secret traffic between usa, canada, france, vatican, dominican republic, concerning the decisions to install gangster governments, then to remove aristide. not once, but twice. the last time, a george walker bush-initiated coup seconded by canada and france and the vatican.

what is it about haiti that causes so many caucasian governments to pursue genocide on this island?

protecting the windward passage? is that the exclusive reason for this genocide?

surely there must be more than that. what is it?

julian, if you tune in, release all those diplomatic messages dealing with this issue. i would be grateful.
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Very hard to deal with an adversary when he counterpunches so very well. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Feb 1 2011, 08:43 AM)
That's why it should be no surprise that the 2004 campaign between Bush/Cheney and Kerry/Edwards was run by the same PR firm, Quinn Gillespie.


Haha, not shocking at all.

"ok so we make it look like a close race then at the end we
have a dramatic finish with a big Dick victory"
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