WTC - Towers 1 & 2: General, buildings, fires, investigation...
Oct 16 2006, 09:43 AM
Oct 20 2006, 01:41 PM
This graphic courtesy of the BBC:
From the same article:
"It was the fire that killed the buildings. There's nothing on earth that could survive those temperatures with that amount of fuel burning," said structural engineer Chris Wise.
"The columns would have melted, the floors would have melted and eventually they would have collapsed one on top of each other."
The buildings' construction manager, Hyman Brown, agreed that nothing could have saved them from the inferno.
"The buildings would have stood had a plane or a force caused by a plane smashed into it," he said.
"But steel melts, and 24,000 gallons (91,000 litres) of aviation fluid melted the steel. Nothing is designed or will be designed to withstand that fire."
Now, there is so much disinformation in this BBC article it's not even funny, the least of which being that steel melts at 800 degrees C (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/doh1.gif) . The true number is about twice that. Of course no one in their right mind these days would assert that there was any melting of steel going on that day, but the fact remains that this major news organization published these untruths.
What else is misleading in this article? First, the graphic grossly mis-represents the buildings' cores. They were massive, containing 47 box-columns each that stretched from the top of the towers to bedrock. The idea that jet-fuel is some kind of mysterious, super-inflamatory substance is highly misleading - in fact it is essentially kerosene, much like lighter fluid. Great for starting charcoal fires, burns off quick.
Indeed, there are so many holes in the official account, so much evidence that the towers were brought down by controlled demolition, that I won't even try to enumerate them all -
Check it out...
Oct 20 2006, 03:42 PM
(For articles about the controlled demolition aspects of the WTC collapses, see the following topic, WTC:Controlled Demolition)
Seffen's Folly: Attempted 9/11 Hoax By Cambridge And The BBC Was A Failure
winterpatriot.blogspot, November 05, 2007
On September 11, 2007, the BBC ran a piece based on a press release from the University of Cambridge, "9/11 demolition theory challenged", which described research purportedly done by senior lecturer Keith Seffen. Nearly two months later, the world has seen no sign of any such research.
...Most of the other coverage accorded to Dr. Seffen and his paper was favorable to his conclusions, and most of it avoided mentioning that his paper hadn't actually been published
Fires, Collapse times, Pyroclastic flow & General
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
ae911truth.org Mission Statement::
To research and disseminate the truth regarding the unlikely “collapses” of the World Trade Center buildings #1, #2 and #7
Can Physics Rewrite History?
A compilation of physical impossibilities & overlooked evidence
in the official explanations for the destruction of the
World Trade Center Complex
by C. Thurston, updated 11/06
Why Indeed did the WTC Buildings Collapse?
by Steven E. Jones
Seminal paper by former BYU Professor of Physics (pdf)
The Destruction of the World Trade Center:
Why the Official Account Cannot Be True
Authorized Version (with references & notes)
by David Ray Griffin
The 9/11 WTC Fires:
Where's the Inferno?
Simple Physics Reveals The Big Lie
Collapse Theory Fails Reality Check
from 9/11 Blimp
The scientists who've concocted this "pancake theory" made a fatal error: they forgot to check their work! ...And that's what we're about to do here. We're going to check the work --courtesy of Sun Zoo
Edna Cintron's Last Stand
Article & Photos of Edna Cintron, who was photographed waving from the gash in WTC 1 prior to its collapse
@ the Web Fairy
Footage of Ms. Cintron waving
courtesy the Web Fairy
Insuring and Financing of the WTC
9/11 and the Greenberg Familia
By Jerry Mazza, Online Journal
American International Group
More information on the parent of the Greenberg group of companies which handled the insuring of the WTC. (cache)
Institute for International Economics Renamed in Honor of Founding Chairman Peter G. Peterson
Peter Peterson, the co-founder of Blackstone, is the Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations, was once the CEO of Lehman Brothers and a US Secretary of Commerce. His role as founder of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, who's members include is even more significant. Members include:
David O'Reilly, Chairman of Chevron
Maurice R. Greenberg
Paul Volcker, former Chairman of the Federal Reserve
Stanley Fischer, Governor of the Bank of Israel
C. Fred Bergsten, director of the IIE since its founding, previously the assistant secretary for international affairs at the U.S. Treasury Department.
Investigation and Cleanup
New 9/11 Study Has Direct Links To Government, Pentagon Black Ops
by Steve Watson
Prison Planet, June 22 2007
A newly released Purdue University animation showing how fire caused the collapse of the World Trade Center towers on 9/11 claims to be independent but in reality has been federally funded and was conducted by individuals with direct links to the Pentagon and the White House.http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2...220607study.htm
"Burning Questions...Need Answers":
FE's Bill Manning Calls for Comprehensive Investigation of WTC Collapse
Fair Lawn, NJ, January 4 2002
Comments regarding Fire Engineering Magazine's Editor Bill Manning's call for a proper investigation and the full text of his bold editorial
WTC Steel Removal
The Expeditious Destruction of the Evidence at Ground Zero
Short article about the removal of evidence and the shielding of investigators from getting ahold of it.
World Trade Center Commentary
Facts about the World Trade Center, and
World Trade Center - History Commentary
Casting Giant Shadows: The Politics of Building the World Trade Center
Article by Roger Cohen
Portfolio, Winter 1990/1991 issue
Post by Michael MR
Margie Burns: 'The best unregulated families'
By Margie Burns
Marvin Bush, the brother of president Bush, was head of WTC security until his contract expired on September 10th, 2001, 1 day before 9/11. Barbara Bush states this fact in her book.http://www.911omissionreport.com/marvin_wirt.html
Also principal in the company, was Wirt D. Walker III, President Bush's cousin.
9/11 Planes Flew Directly into Secure Computer Rooms in Both Towers
by Christopher Bollyn
11 January 2007
Posted @ 911 blogger
NIST, ASCE and other Official Reports
Building a Better Mirage
NIST's 3-Year $20,000,000 Cover-Up
of the Crime of the Century
by Jim Hoffman
Version 1.0, Dec 8, 2005
Critical Analysis of the NIST report from 9/11 Research
NIST simply avoids these troublesome issues by placing them outside the scope of its investigation, claiming that "global collapse" was "inevitable" after the "initiation of collapse."courtesy of Sun Zoo
NIST in violation of the Data Quality Act
by Ed Haas
Muckraker Report, May 31 2006
Full of Hot Air
Purdue University did their own computer model of the towers' collapse. Guess who funded it?
Oct 20 2006, 03:42 PM
Posts and Threads
Debunking Brent Blanchard's Wtc Analysis
Post by Beached, Mar 1 2007
In August 2006, a report was written by Brent Blanchard, Senior Editor for Implosionworld.com ... entitled "A Critical Analysis of the collapse of the WTC 1,2 and 7 from an Explosives and Conventional Demolition Industry Viewpoint", the report was written in an attempt to "debunk" the claim that explosives and/or similar catalysts contributed to the collapse of the World Trade Center...Beached has outdone himself - this is both brilliant and well-sourced.
However, there are many problems with this report which I have detailed below:
Fires, Burn temps
Post by Sanders
reconstituted from "Loose Change Debunked., Your production is false" thread @ LC forum
Jet Fuel Burn rates
thread started by JDX
discussion of the jet fuel & fires
World Trade Center Facts
World Trade Center Facts
Courtesy of reader Carl Taylor
Post by Michael MR
Oct 22 2006, 03:09 PM
NIST engineer, John Gross, denies the existance of Molten Steel
"John Gross, one of the lead engineers of the NIST report is quesitoned about the existance of molten steel at the WTC building..." 4 min 25 sec
An important documentary
ReOpen 911 - JeffKing
Talk by an MIT engineer
one of the best documentaries dealing with 9/11 - focus on the World Trade Center collapses
The Demolition of Our Republic
another good film focusing on the WTC
WTC - 9/11
Independent Analysis of Scientific Evidence Relating to 9/11
Very comprehensive, great resourse from gieis.uni.cc
Comprehensive, all the evidence is neatly organized - Excellent.
Muslims Suspend Laws of Physics!
Parts I and II
VINTAGE - this was one of the first sites to spring up after 9/11 - saying, huh??
site created by J. McMichael
comprehensive site with sections dealing with all aspects of the trade towers collapse
Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice:
Section on WTC Destruction
Website founded by retired BYU professor Steven Jones Ph.D.
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