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Daryl Donley Appears Briefly On German Tv Show, appears un-named on the johannes kerner show

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post Sep 4 2011, 10:13 PM
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hello ci-team,

two weeks ago I started to monitor tv-coverage of the the tenth anniversary of 9/11. because I am writing my master's thesis on this issue. so far I gathered 395 broadcasts of 42 german tv-stations (from austria, germany, switzerland) covering the issue (from 3 weeks before up to 1 week afterwards). all of them are recorded (except reruns) and their content contrasted to the main findings (which should have made head-lines all over the world) brought into light from the "truthers". theoretical background of my thesis are some theories in the socio-economic realm and foremost theories about massmedia and their impact on society and culture but also how consent is manufactured (among the tv-stations) (e.g. "propaganda model" from chomsky/herman).

while at the moment there is not much time left to actually watch all the recordings (the analysis-phase will start later this year) I had the chance to view one of the shows two days ago. there is a scene where a man (no name given, unfortunately) tells some reporter how he saw the plane approaching the pentagon and crashing into it. the scene lasts only for some seconds (no further discussion) and then the show went on ...

I took a screenshot showing this man for you to see. what is interesting in this scene is the location where they interviewed this guy. if this location was not chosen by chance but was intentionally selected because of where he stood while he was watching the plane then he is a candidat/witness for the northern flight path, isn't he?

the insert "Kerner" has no linkage to the person interviewed, it is the name of the show's host. the tv-station is sat.1, a private-run german broadcaster. the show was aired on sept. 1st, 10:15pm.

so with a lot of luck someone will be able to identify this man ....

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post Sep 5 2011, 03:25 AM
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thank you for sharing lurker, but is there any way you could post the whole video clip? maybe upload it to mediafire and then post the link? given the limited clues available at this point it would be very difficult to identify this man, so more information is needed.

by the way, it took me an hour, but this is all i could find so far, and all of it is limited to kerner's show, not the alleged witness:

http://www.prosiebensat1welt.com/content/view/1011/371/
http://www.prosiebensat1welt.com/UserFiles...orschau_neu.pdf

Freitag, 09.09.2011
22:40 Kerner
(show times)


http://www.sat1.de/
http://www.sat1.de/kerner/bilder/contentgallery/41259/
http://www.sat1.de/kerner/video/



i noticed they uploaded their most recent clip, which is a video from a kerner show that aired on 9/1, but its about toddler beauty pageants and not the september 11th clip you posted the screencap from. perhaps in a few days they might upload it, but they might not. so unless you can share the video you have, im afraid there is very little that can be done to further the pursuit of this (alleged) witness. please try and share it if you can, thanks.

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ps - im a little bit surprised that the show wouldnt at some point in that broadcast, identify this man's name. are you sure they didnt reveal it at some point? or maybe they were offering a preview for an upcoming show?
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http://www.sat1.de/kerner/sendung/themen/50920/

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Themen vom 01. September 2011
"Kerner" - Die Themen vom 01. September 2011 im Detail:




google translation:

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Myth or truth? Is there any truth to the conspiracy theories of 11th September? The 11th September 2001 changed the world: Two planes crashed into the towers of the World Trade Center in New York, a third flew into the Pentagon and a fourth crashed. The images of the terrorist attack on New York and Washington have still not forgotten - in this year marks the tenth anniversary of the disaster still to keep persistent rumors that it was a conspiracy in the attacks. The official offender: the meanwhile killed Osama bin Laden and his terrorist organization al-Qaeda. But many people believe that other powers are responsible for the tragedy as best-selling author Mathias Bröckers. He suggests that American intelligence was behind the attacks. Prof. Dr. Niels Harrit, scientist and professor at the University of Copenhagen, has found in dust samples from Ground Zero explosive material, suggesting a disruption of the building. What theories are there? What's behind it? And what do the representatives determine their theses?





found it!

http://www.videogold.de/die-wahrheit-zum-1...ner-01-09-2011/

Die Wahrheit zum 11. September? | Fakten bei Johannes B. Kerner (01.09.2011)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Ow1nnJTws...player_embedded




alleged pentagon witness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Ow1nnJTws...embedded#t=406s
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post Sep 5 2011, 02:27 PM
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That's Daryl Donley:



You can see he's holding one of the photographs he took.

He has never directly contradicted the north side approach.

Since so many other witnesses in the best location to judge the location of the plane in relation to the gas station corroborate each other about the north side approach we know that Daryl was either deceived into believing the plane hit (just like the north side witnesses were) or he is lying.

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post Sep 5 2011, 05:39 PM
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Nice find guys.

QUOTE (paranoia)


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"I saw the plane from tip to tip..I remember seeing the back of both engines"


Really?

http://www.loc.gov/locvideo/911photo/

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Hi, umm, before I show the images I’ll just briefly say, umm, as Carol has just mentioned, that I was in front of the Pentagon, stopped in the worse commuter traffic I’d ever experienced, before or since, and then heard a very loud plane, it got progressively louder, and it got so loud I ducked in my…(laughter)…is anyone out there? (laughs)... I, I ducked in my car it got so loud, and I turned to my right and the plane was next to me, umm, at an angle at just above ground level, and I later realized it had knocked down lampposts next to me, and saw it fly into the Pentagon


and this..

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"I could see the windows. I saw the entire plane and then saw it fly right into the Pentagon."


and this..(Jeff Hill "interview")

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I looked out my passenger window and the plane was next to me and level about 100ft or so away and I followed it and saw it fly into the Pentagon
I was right in front of the Pentagon. I was as close as you can get to the Pentagon without being on the grounds.


Can somebody tell me how he saw the aircraft "tip to tip" and the "back of the engines"?

What happened to him "ducking" in his car and seeing it to his "right"?

If it were as low as he described (the damage to lightpoles 3 and 4 demand that the aircraft was 12 feet AGL!), how could he physically see the back of "both engines"?

Given all of the above, can somebody please place this guy on the road??



Finally, he claimed (as many have done) to have been in "heavy traffic". He couldn't have been in the lane closest to the Pentagon as this leads into South Parking. Here's an idea of the scene that morning leading up to the spot "beside..lightpoles" he claimed to have been:

http://youtu.be/6jrSUHbMhJo

And why the repeated "at an angle"? He's the only person to say this. Repeatedly..

Oh, and he has withheld the majority of the photos he allegedly took and sold them on to Gannet. Who won't release them.

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post Sep 5 2011, 09:24 PM
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given his many inconsistencies (and likely embellishments and or deductions), its no surprise the Kerner Show didnt bother to actually name him. i believe that reflects how little they valued donley's 2 cents...
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post Sep 5 2011, 09:35 PM
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Great catch slice! Way to critically analyze his account. His account doesn't seem reliable with all these inconsistencies. This is definitely going in his witness profile.
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post Sep 5 2011, 09:40 PM
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Slice he also said it was "level to the ground". More indication that he deduced it from reports after the event or he is flat out lying.
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post Sep 5 2011, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Sep 6 2011, 02:40 AM) *
Slice he also said it was "level to the ground". More indication that he deduced it from reports after the event or he is flat out lying.


He also repeatedly claimed that the aircraft "disappeared". No fireball, no explosion, no description of the aircraft making contact with anything. It just "disappeared". He had his face buried in his lap. If he ducked as the aircraft was approaching why would he raise his head as it got closer and louder??

Either way, he contradicts himself at every turn.

@paranoia

I wonder if the Kerner Show has the full interview? It may have been taken from the same show that interviewed Mike Walter or did the Kerner Show carry out Donley's interview themselves?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lyt.../walter-NoC.gif

Lurker? Any way of finding out?
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post Mar 23 2014, 02:19 PM
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His vantage point for the 4+ minute photo is adjacent to the ramp leaving the south parking area. He is zoomed in from way out beyond the construction trailers on the far right of his image.

https://onedrive.live.com/#cid=E097D925456F...#33;156&v=3

You can see the #5 pole in the foreground so he must have been right under the object or in front of the path.

Here is a locator map with likely area when he took the photos.

https://onedrive.live.com/#cid=E097D925456F...#33;157&v=3


Here is his zoomed out photo, clearly showing he was beyond the corner of the Pentagon. The arrangement of debris, guardrail posts and light pole have not changed.

https://onedrive.live.com/#cid=E097D925456F...#33;158&v=3

I don't understand how witnesses can claim seeing details if the time frame is one, maybe two seconds. If he is ducked down he cannot claim to see it go into the building.

Could he have seen the NOC approach out his driver's window or through the windshield?

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post Mar 23 2014, 03:46 PM
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Kawika, I'm having problems seeing those images linked to (I'd really like to seee them)

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Could he have seen the NOC approach out his driver's window or through the windshield?


I'm working on something along these lines (POVs from Route 27). I'll post them in the Pentagon section soon.

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QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Mar 23 2014, 02:46 PM) *
Kawika, I'm having problems seeing those images linked to (I'd really like to seee them)



I'm working on something along these lines (POVs from Route 27). I'll post them in the Pentagon section soon.


See email. Looking forward to your new input on this.
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