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Passenger Cancellations On 9/11

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post Feb 2 2016, 05:07 PM
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I came across this article Saturday night and I am still trying to figure out where I found the originating link.

I hope it hasn't been posted here before but if it has it is still worth reading again. Did you know more people cancelled flights on the 9/11 flights than actually flew on the flights? I was surprised at this number. Some of the names you are familiar with as they are stewardesses and pilots who opted out of 9/11.

Some names in the article are famous and some are not. Each person mentioned has a source link. I wanted to break up the article by flight but there are too many names.


http://www.truthin7minutes.com/luck/
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Believe it or not, over 350 people cancelled their flights on 9/11...

In fact, more people cancelled their flights on September 11th than actually flew on those four planes that day!

Take a look:

Robert Redford

One of the most famous actors in the world got lucky on 9/11.

Academy Award-winning director Robert Redford was in New York the day before September 11 for a business meeting. Flight 93 was "the early morning flight from Newark to San Francisco that he normally favored" when returning to the West Coast, according to his biographer, Michael Feeney Callan...

But the meeting ended earlier than scheduled and so he flew back to California on September 10th.

" I would have been on [Flight 93] had I not finished my business..."

Source: USA WEEKEND Magazine.......
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post Feb 2 2016, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (Truthissweet @ Feb 2 2016, 05:07 PM) *
I came across this article Saturday night and I am still trying to figure out where I found the originating link.

I hope it hasn't been posted here before but if it has it is still worth reading again. Did you know more people cancelled flights on the 9/11 flights than actually flew on the flights? I was surprised at this number. Some of the names you are familiar with as they are stewardesses and pilots who opted out of 9/11.

Some names in the article are famous and some are not. Each person mentioned has a source link. I wanted to break up the article by flight but there are too many names.


http://www.truthin7minutes.com/luck/


Truthis this is a very interesting area of research about 9/11.
If I had more time and interest I might pursue it, but I don't.
I will leave it for researchers such as yourself.

Is the number 350 highly suspicious (it works out to around 88 people per plane) ? I would say so.
But then, if I were to get into this in a serious manner, the very first thing I would do is to look into published studies that reveal typical cancellation numbers for typical flights.

Until I had those numbers I wouldn't pursue this any further.

BTW, if I were to refer this story/angle to other people I would use this link http://www.shoestring911.blogspot.ca/2014/...eled-their.html (the original one) rather than the one you give above.
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post Feb 3 2016, 08:51 AM
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But then, if I were to get into this in a serious manner, the very first thing I would do is to look into published studies that reveal typical cancellation numbers for typical flights.


Today I will check into cancellation stats. Thanks for your link. I hope readers use them together. It is good to read the stories of those who did not fly.

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Meet Arlene Burns. She was a freelance broadcaster for various networks. She was supposed to be on flight 175. She was supposed to be on flight 007 that was shot down in '83. She looked at her watch at the exact same time 175 crashed. The problem is it was flight 11. Imo, I think her story is b.s. She worked for the media. So did a lot of others who cancelled flights. Hollywood is involved with 9/11. They kept their human assets safe. I am not debating this. I have seen enough of this in stories about 9/11. 'I slept in....I had a hangover....' The airlines involved are also guilty. Switching of flight crews. Total complicity.

If anyone thinks otherwise, I respect your opinion. Read the stories of the people in the article. You decide for yourself which stories are legit and those that are complete lies.


Here is her LinkedIn page:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/arlene-burns-b75b724

http://m.hoodrivernews.com/news/2002/sep/1...emplates=mobile
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The indecision of a lifetime

9/10/02

If a person’s guardian angels ever deserved a medal of honor, Arlene Burns would like to nominate hers.

The Mosier resident and former U.S. Whitewater team member has fallen 1,000 feet off an Alaskan glacier, dropped 100 feet off a waterfall in North Carolina, and tumbled down a mountainside inside a burning tour bus in Nepal, and lived to tell about each life-altering experience.

Over the course of her 42 years, Burns has escaped destiny’s clutches more than a dozen times — including twice in the past year — and each new brush with death makes her feel like her place in this world is all the more tenuous.

But none of Burns’ near-death experiences remains as vivid in her memory as the one that occurred one year ago today — the anniversary of the most horrific, tragic day in our nation’s history.

“I felt really close to 9-11 in an eerie, ironic sort of way,” said Burns, who had reserved a seat on United flight 175 out of Boston that she cancelled a few days earlier to rendezvous with an old friend from Montreal.

“So many things happened to me that day, and around that day, that it was almost like I knew something bad had happened,” she said.

Just like Burns’ intuition told her to postpone her trip on Korean Air flight 007 — a passenger aircraft shot down over the Sea of Japan by the Soviet Union on Sept. 1, 1983 — it told her to change her scheduled flight on Sept. 11, 2001.

After wrestling with indecision for just a moment, she essentially changed her fate by changing her plans.

“I guess one of the things this experience has taught me is that it’s so important to listen to our instincts and to be flexible,” she said. “Of course I didn’t know that flight was going to crash into the World Trade Center. I just changed my plans at the last minute to meet up with my friend.”

****

Like most monumentally historic events — the Kennedy assassination, Armstrong on the moon, etc. — Burns recalls exactly how she felt and exactly what she was doing that fateful morning.

She remembers having breakfast with her friend, Laurent, on her brother’s waterfront deck in Hull, Mass., watching the planes take off and land at Logan International Airport.

They noticed that a few of the aircrafts had a mysterious glow about them that day — “an intense, fiery shimmer from the morning sunlight that made us wonder ‘where are they going, and who are the people in there?’”

Burns couldn’t be certain that any of the planes she saw were part of the infamous terrorist battalion, but she claims feeling a cosmic premonition unlike any other that morning.

Adding an even more visceral texture to the morning, Burns remembers glancing at the clock at exactly 8:45 a.m. — the instant United flight 175 slammed into the South Tower. Not more than a couple hours later, her brother unexpectedly came home to deliver the tragic news.

“Without him saying what had happened, the first words out of my mouth were, ‘did someone bomb America?’” she said. “Strangely, without seeing anything on TV or hearing anything on the radio, I almost knew what had happened.”

Her relationship to 9-11 became even more personal when she looked at her cancelled flight reservation, only to realize that by some cosmic twist of fate, she was granted a new lease on life.

Just like Sept. 1, 1983, Burns was scheduled to die that day, but never got on the plane.

“I feel like I’ve stumbled upon something,” she said. “It’s strange to think that I may have been destined to die that day, and I somehow sidestepped my own fate.

“It’s really been a liberation of spirit for me. Since that day, I’ve stopped trying to make things work, and have just let them happen to me more. I have a totally clean slate now, and I can do whatever I want with my life.”

****

Burns has spent most of the past decade as a freelance broadcaster for NBC, ESPN, PBS, National Geographic and other networks. But after another brush with death on 9-11, and the resulting shift in the economy, she began to realize that her career direction may also be shifting.

Until this summer, she had worked as a host and color commentator for the Gorge Games coverage on NBC. She had also received funding for three international film projects, and was scheduled to guide three trips for National Geographic Expeditions.

But all the money had dried up, and one by one, all the trips were cancelled. As a result, Burns was forced to cope with the potential reality that she wasn’t supposed to be here anymore.

“When NBC said they didn’t need me back and all the money disappeared for the National Geographic programs, I remember thinking something strange was going on,” she said.

“I had been historically imprinted on the Gorge Games, and all of a sudden, it was gone — which had nothing to do with the economy. It’s as if I didn’t exist anymore.

“I wondered why I was losing all this work, and then it dawned on me: What if I was supposed to be dead? Sometimes people die when they’re not supposed to, so why couldn’t it happen the other way around?” she said.

After nine months of introspection and soul-searching — which included a trip to Mexico that led to a near-fatal windsurfing accident — Burns began to feel her momentum shift back toward a more positive direction in June.

She has found new peace in her life, and has turned to her background living in the Himalayas, as well as certain Buddhist beliefs, to help synthesize the feelings that continue to resonate from Sept. 11.

“The gifts we have in this world are extraordinary, but until you know extreme pain, you cannot truly appreciate them or understand extreme joy,” she said. “I believe it is crucial to maintain a dynamic balance — like surfing a wave.

“The Buddhists call it ‘indifference,’ but it doesn’t mean that one does not care. It means that whatever happens — whether we perceive it to be great or horrible — it doesn’t affect us so much that it makes us lose our balance. I am hoping that we as a country and a world can find the ‘gifts’ from last year’s tragedy. It has made us all reflect upon what really matters and how precious life is.”

No one needs to tell Arlene Burns how precious life is. She has experienced extreme joy and extreme pain, and shares the same grief and sorrow with every U.S. citizen when rehashing the events of 9-11-01.

Although Burns found herself a lot closer to those events than most people, she still believes everything happens for a reason, and from her latest brush with death, she has a renewed understanding about how fragile life can be.

“One thing’s for sure: My guardian angels have been working overtime,” she said.
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post Feb 3 2016, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (Truthissweet @ Feb 3 2016, 08:51 AM) *
From NPMike


Today I will check into cancellation stats. Thanks for your link. I hope readers use them together. It is good to read the stories of those who did not fly.

***********************************
(From article I posted)
Meet Arlene Burns. She was a freelance broadcaster for various networks. She was supposed to be on flight 175. She was supposed to be on flight 007 that was shot down in '83. She looked at her watch at the exact same time 175 crashed. The problem is it was flight 11. Imo, I think her story is b.s. She worked for the media. So did a lot of others who cancelled flights. Hollywood is involved with 9/11. They kept their human assets safe. I am not debating this. I have seen enough of this in stories about 9/11. 'I slept in....I had a hangover....' The airlines involved are also guilty. Switching of flight crews. Total complicity.

If anyone thinks otherwise, I respect your opinion. Read the stories of the people in the article. You decide for yourself which stories are legit and those that are complete lies.


Here is her LinkedIn page:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/arlene-burns-b75b724

http://m.hoodrivernews.com/news/2002/sep/1...emplates=mobile


A nice story.........one I find impossible to believe.
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So just what is the usual cancellation rate for flights originating out of Boston, New York, ... ?

Is such a stat even available?
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QUOTE (wishIwasapilot @ Feb 3 2016, 04:08 PM) *
So just what is the usual cancellation rate for flights originating out of Boston, New York, ... ?

Is such a stat even available?



I'd be very curious to know what it is also.

If the stat is available, it may only be to airline industry insiders.

When I came up with the figure of 88 cancellations per flight (four 9/11 planes)
I simply took 350 and divided it by 4 to arrive at the figure.

I didn't read the entire article (either the one posted by Truthis or the original it was based on)
but I read enough to get a good sense of what it was all about.
The first third or so of the article is weighted heavily on stories about Flt. 11 and Flt. 175.

If someone is up to the task it might be enlightening to know exactly how many cancellation stories were
written about in the article (I'd be surprised if there are 350 there) and what the exact breakdown
is as to which flights they cancelled.

Any takers? Truthis?
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QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 3 2016, 04:32 PM) *
I'd be very curious to know what it is also.

If the stat is available, it may only be to airline industry insiders.

When I came up with the figure of 88 cancellations per flight (four 9/11 planes)
I simply took 350 and divided it by 4 to arrive at the figure.

I didn't read the entire article (either the one posted by Truthis or the original it was based on)
but I read enough to get a good sense of what it was all about.
The first third or so of the article is weighted heavily on stories about Flt. 11 and Flt. 175.

If someone is up to the task it might be enlightening to know exactly how many cancellation stories were
written about in the article (I'd be surprised if there are 350 there) and what the exact breakdown
is as to which flights they cancelled.

Any takers? Truthis?


I will have the article broken out by flight and also hopefully cancellation rates. By Friday or Sat. afternoon.
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QUOTE (Truthissweet @ Feb 3 2016, 05:05 PM) *
I will have the article broken out by flight and also hopefully cancellation rates. By Friday or Sat. afternoon.


How are you making out with the article Truthis?
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QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 7 2016, 12:39 PM) *
How are you making out with the article Truthis?


Due to possible legal complications, I can't present the info in the link like I had planned. However, if one reads about the passengers who cancelled, read each of the source link stories. See how many use the same approach.
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QUOTE (Truthissweet @ Feb 8 2016, 01:28 PM) *
Due to possible legal complications, I can't present the info in the link like I had planned. However, if one reads about the passengers who cancelled, read each of the source link stories. See how many use the same approach.


I'm sorry to hear you have decided to depart the forum.

Perhaps you bit off a bit more than you could chew with the passenger cancellation list you were planning to post a couple of weeks ago?

The possible 'legal complications' were about copying and pasting the article that you posted here without prior permission to do so.

There are no legal complications about combing through the article and compiling a list of which passengers were on which flight, how many of them etc. etc.
No legal complications, just a heck of a lot of work. smile.gif
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post Feb 19 2016, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 19 2016, 03:19 PM) *
I'm sorry to hear you have decided to depart the forum.

Perhaps you bit off a bit more than you could chew with the passenger cancellation list you were planning to post a couple of weeks ago?

The possible 'legal complications' were about copying and pasting the article that you posted here without prior permission to do so.

There are no legal complications about combing through the article and compiling a list of which passengers were on which flight, how many of them etc. etc.
No legal complications, just a heck of a lot of work. smile.gif


Eric Gree,

Who the FUCK are you to tell me what my intention was on posting. I wanted to post each article in a certain way. You can take that smiley face and shove it.

Heck of a lot a work? Not really. Why didn't you offer to help? That is not your style. Rip people personally is your style.

Sorry I have to respond this way, Rob Balsamo. Good luck in the future with the egomaniac mentioned above. Your forum deserves better.
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QUOTE (Truthissweet @ Feb 3 2016, 08:51 AM) *
From NPMike


Today I will check into cancellation stats. Thanks for your link. I hope readers use them together. It is good to read the stories of those who did not fly.

***********************************
(From article I posted)
Meet Arlene Burns. She was a freelance broadcaster for various networks. She was supposed to be on flight 175. She was supposed to be on flight 007 that was shot down in '83. She looked at her watch at the exact same time 175 crashed. The problem is it was flight 11. Imo, I think her story is b.s. She worked for the media. So did a lot of others who cancelled flights. Hollywood is involved with 9/11. They kept their human assets safe. I am not debating this. I have seen enough of this in stories about 9/11. 'I slept in....I had a hangover....' The airlines involved are also guilty. Switching of flight crews. Total complicity.

If anyone thinks otherwise, I respect your opinion. Read the stories of the people in the article. You decide for yourself which stories are legit and those that are complete lies.


Here is her LinkedIn page:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/arlene-burns-b75b724

http://m.hoodrivernews.com/news/2002/sep/1...emplates=mobile



Sounds like TOTAL B.S. to me. FAR too many "experiences" to be believed. NOBODY is THAT lucky.
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QUOTE (wishIwasapilot @ Feb 3 2016, 04:08 PM) *
So just what is the usual cancellation rate for flights originating out of Boston, New York, ... ?

Is such a stat even available?


I GUARANTEE you that statistic is available if you know where to look. I would bet money, the FBI has those kinds of stats! They would need them to investigate the very TYPE of crime WE are looking into. The fact they don't WANT to investigate this is of NO consequence. Those stats are available.
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QUOTE (excontroller @ May 21 2016, 06:18 AM) *
Sounds like TOTAL B.S. to me. FAR too many "experiences" to be believed. NOBODY is THAT lucky.


I also believe that they HAVE kept their shills safe. I can't get passed the gut feeling that Barbara Olsen is alive and well, somewhere. Some day, it would tickle me pink to hear she was recognized, after all these years. LOL! THAT would be the end of a lot of things!
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QUOTE (excontroller @ Sep 25 2016, 05:15 AM) *
I also believe that they HAVE kept their shills safe. I can't get passed the gut feeling that Barbara Olsen is alive and well, somewhere. Some day, it would tickle me pink to hear she was recognized, after all these years. LOL! THAT would be the end of a lot of things!


I really liked that woman for many different reasons.
It would make me a happy guy too if she was found alive somewhere.

I would bet she has been eliminated though.

What shill (with lots of bucks) who absolutely thrived being in the public spotlight would want to have a muzzle put on her for the rest of her life?
What shill would make a special trip back home to be with hubby on his birthday and then not be able to be with him again for the rest of her life and
watch him gallivanting around with his new wife?
Etc.
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