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Please Help. N164ua Scrapped But For Sale. Is This N612ua?

SeekingC40
post Feb 17 2014, 09:31 PM
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Oops I go the title of this post wrong its: N614UA Scrapped but for sale...Is this N612UA? sorry bout that

Ok, I know I am new here and I know very little about aircraft and all the ins and outs of there operations and sales but this is really strange. So please stick with me.

I found a listing for N614UA MSN 21875 year 1984 for sale/lease: Here are 2 links.
http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/a...200/1273003.htm
http://www.corporateconceptsintl.com/inventory.htm

The FAA records show N614UA is registered and owned by Boeing Co. In Kansas, The same company also owns N613UA / 21874 which is also still registered and the FAA site..

Here's the thing, the listing says the aircraft is mfg 1984, which I knew was supposed to be 1983 so it peeked my interest so I started looking.

It looks to me that both N614UA and N613UA are scrapped. I cant really make out the N#'s in the photos I did try to enhance them but I think someone else should look. Plus more proof below.

I think this is N614UA/ 21875 Torn to Bits! http://www.airteamimages.com/boeing-767_N6...nes_148007.html

and this is N613UA 21873 : http://www.airteamimages.com/boeing-767_N6...nes_148006.html (this one I know N# is easier to make out.)

According to ch-aviation, N614UA was scrapped in 2012. http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/aircraft/33854
and "broken up" in 2012 according to. http://www.airliners.net/photo/United-Airl...67-222/1080720/

Also sense both 614 and 613 were owned by this "Boeing Co." I'm guessing this is Boeing? but for sale by Corporate Concepts International it seems even stranger.
and the website links to boeing.com this whole thing is really odd. If N614UA and N613UA are gone then what the hell is up for grabs? Is this N612UA / 21873 What are the chances...

I tried to check my facts but I have a limited understanding off all the ins and outs of tracking an aircraft and the N# registrations So can someone take a look. If I'm way off with all this then ,my bad but any help is appreciated.

I know really N613UA doesn't have mush to do with this but it still seems odd that the 2 planes immediately after UA612UA can be linked to this.

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post Feb 18 2014, 02:02 AM
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[quote name='SeekingC40' date='Feb 17 2014, 07:31 PM' post='10811336']
Oops I go the title of this post wrong its: N614UA Scrapped but for sale...Is this N612UA? sorry bout that

Ok, I know I am new here and I know very little about aircraft and all the ins and outs of there operations and sales but this is really strange. So please stick with me.

I found a listing for N614UA MSN 21875 year 1984 for sale/lease: Here are 2 links.
http://www.controller.com/listingsdetail/a...200/1273003.htm
http://www.corporateconceptsintl.com/inventory.htm
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Forgive my lack of understanding, but what is your point? What are you postulating?
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post Feb 18 2014, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE (raptor @ Feb 18 2014, 01:02 AM) *
Forgive my lack of understanding, but what is your point? What are you postulating?


I am not speaking for SeekingC40. I am going to speak for myself here.

After due consideration of all the "facts," as dubious as they may be as presented here and there on the Net and after due consideration of all the speculation, as even more dubious as speculation is, I firmly believe (as I already expressed in another post elsewhere) that, all things considered, American Airlines and United Airlines had to have been in on things in very big ways prior to the alleged 9/11 strikes and thereafter to this date.

For DolceDecorum's take on the disposition of the American Airlines craft alleged to be involved in the events of 9/11, see reply # 26, specifically the paragraph after "On edit" at the very end of that reply at: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...dress=125x10112 .

I already stated that I believe that there were no original flights UA175, AA11, and AA77 (and possibly UA93 as well) on 9/11. However, what I cannot fathom is how this can be and yet escape the attention of airline personnel at the respective airports of faked departures, to wit, gate agents, check-in counter agents, baggage handlers, flight control center workers, aircraft cleaners, caterers, and more.

I am of the mind that the 9/11 crew and passenger lists were falsified in whole and or in part, yet I believe it is likely that 9/11 inflight calls were simulated using voice morphing technology to impersonate real people. But this begs the question: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REAL PEOPLE WHOSE VOICES WERE IMPERSONATED and why couldn't these real people be used to deceive the recipients of the calls?

I think the best way to attempt to sort out the mysteries of 9/11, is to put the top illusionists of the world into something akin to a think tank/jury room, feed them all the available information, believed to be true or false, and sequester them until they, with their great (and devious) minds sort everything out and arrive at the most plausible explanation(s) for what has happened on 9/11.

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post Feb 18 2014, 01:10 PM
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Sorry I was not aware this was being discussed elsewhere on the web, and please pardon my spelling in the first post, I was up to my neck in numbers and websites.

What I was getting at is that it seems odd to me that two planes that have been confirmed to have been scrapped are not deregistered and stated to be owned by this Boeing Co. I am unclear is to whether "Boeing co." is actually Boeing. Why would Boeing own 2 defunct airliners? The fact that one of them N614UA is for sale obviously can not be correct..

My postulation is that based on the facts, is that possibly someone is either trying to list a 767 under a false identity (Fraud!) or possibly that parts from the two previous planes may have been put into another one to confuse the serial numbers. Or that N612UA was scrapped in place of N614UA and there's a cover up. I don't know how this all works but It is clear there is something fishy.

Why are the two planes N613UA and N614UA not deregistered if they are scrapped? I confirmed the serial numbers match the tail numbers on the FAA site, so they are the same planes. The sale listing was updated 12/2013 but N614UA / 21875 was taken apart in Victorville, CA in 2012.

What I would like an opinion on is if anyone else thinks there are shell companies in place trying to disguise or sell a plane that can not exist and if anyone thinks this could be flight 175's plane.

I would call the number on the listing myself but I would blow my cover in a second not knowing enough of the right questions to ask.

Also let me state I do believe that the towers were struck by planes. I don't not believe they were AA or UA planes. American 11 already possibly went up for sale and is now gone or hidden, the planes are slipping away and they are the undeniable proof of what actually happened so that's why I am so interested in this situation.

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