Conflict Of Interest (april Gallop's Case) Options

[dadeets]

I had my letter to editor published in North County Times (San Diego County) today.

Conflict of interest in 9/11 case

On April 5, a case brought against Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Richard Myers raised the bar to a new level for blatant conflict of interest. Judge John M. Walker Jr., a cousin once removed of George Walker Bush, saw no reason to recuse himself when a case charging the former vice president, secretary of defense and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff came before him for appellate review.

The case charges the defendants with responsibility for injuries suffered by April Gallop, an Army employee, and her newborn son at the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.

Gallop and many others in the 9/11 truth movement contend that explosives were planted inside the Pentagon and that no credible evidence has been presented supporting the theory that Flight 77 actually hit the building. The case before the U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals is being heard by a three-judge panel. A motion to have Judge Walker disqualified from hearing the case was denied.

Dwain Deets

Encinitas


It's one of the letters at

http://www.nctimes.com/news/opinion/letter...a69402bce5.html

[rob balsamo]

Good job Dwain... thanks...

and Happy Birthday! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Obwon]

This is extremely worthy of note:

The idea that Cheney knew a plane was heading for the Pentagon is
supported by the 9/11 Commission hearing testimony of the then
transportation secretary, Norman Mineta. Mineta reported to the
Commission that Cheney was in the presidential bunker prior to the
Pentagon “crash” and was tracking the plane as it approached the
Pentagon but not taking action to intercept it.
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Shouldn't Cheney have done something? Like, perhaps, call the Pentagon and
other gov't agencies, to ensure that alarms were sounded? Actions that might very
well be indicated, depending upon what those orders, that were still standing, were.

Obwon

[IslandPilot]

This is extremely worthy of note:

The idea that Cheney knew a plane was heading for the Pentagon is
supported by the 9/11 Commission hearing testimony of the then
transportation secretary, Norman Mineta. Mineta reported to the
Commission that Cheney was in the presidential bunker prior to the
Pentagon “crash” and was tracking the plane as it approached the
Pentagon but not taking action to intercept it.
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Shouldn't Cheney have done something? Like, perhaps, call the Pentagon and
other gov't agencies, to ensure that alarms were sounded? Actions that might very
well be indicated, depending upon what those orders, that were still standing, were.

Obwon

That would have been too simple and considerate.

The guys contracted to work on the "rennovation" got a cell phone call from one of their wives or a friend, alerting them to the aircraft that had flown into the buildings in NYC. That's why they LEFT THE SITE well before the "explosive event"!

How simple was that?

[kawika]

This is extremely worthy of note:

The idea that Cheney knew a plane was heading for the Pentagon is
supported by the 9/11 Commission hearing testimony of the then
transportation secretary, Norman Mineta. Mineta reported to the
Commission that Cheney was in the presidential bunker prior to the
Pentagon "crash" and was tracking the plane as it approached the
Pentagon but not taking action to intercept it.
--------------

Shouldn't Cheney have done something? Like, perhaps, call the Pentagon and
other gov't agencies, to ensure that alarms were sounded? Actions that might very
well be indicated, depending upon what those orders, that were still standing, were.

Obwon

The "object" on radar, whatever it was, approached the restricted airspace not once but TWICE! He had two opportunities to do something.

[amazed!]

Bravo for the North County Times! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

[DoYouEverWonder]

The "object" on radar, whatever it was, approached the restricted airspace not once but TWICE! He had two opportunities to do something.

But he had to wait for Bush to finish reading "My Pet Goat" before he could do anything. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/pilotfly.gif)

[tumetuestumefais...]

there was a role in all this for Cheney: doing nothing before end of pet goat and then maintain the same. I'm quite sure an electric chair is best for this.

[kawika]

But he had to wait for Bush to finish reading "My Pet Goat" before he could do anything. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/pilotfly.gif)

Sorry to be anal about this, but he was done with the GOAT at about 9:16am and had a speech ready to rock and roll at 9:29am, fully three (or nine) minutes before the Pentagon event.


http
://www.historycommons.org/searchResult...&search=Go

9:29am---Still inside Booker Elementary School, President Bush gives a brief speech in front of about 200 students, plus many teachers and reporters.

I don't buy one word of this BS about not being able to reach Condi or Cheney. These folks have access to the most sophisticated communications technology on the planet.

[Obwon]

The "object" on radar, whatever it was, approached the restricted airspace not once but TWICE! He had two opportunities to do something.

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The whole plot seems to hang on our leaders being "excusably" absent their posts!

But... There is no such thing as being "excusably absent" their posts, when they have
no acceptable excuses.

Bush was informed, but took no action, his excuse? "He didn't want to frighten the children".
Cheney was watching, but took no action, his excuse? He just didn't care!
Condi was shopping and took no action, her excuse? She had a show to attend.
Rumsfeld was in a meeting, but took no actions, his excuse: He raced out onto the lawn
to see if he could help victims.

Had that been a Soviet first strike, I don't even want to imagine, what they could have
done with an extra hour and a half.

Obwon

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Here's a very good site, but it's very very big, will take lots of time to cover it.
Sure there's some disinfo there, what site can avoid it? There were so many stories told about that day. But, at least they seem to have preserved those different claims.
They've got great links and cites, and the "way back machine" for articles that have been removed.

http://killtown.911review.org/
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Enjoy

This post has been edited by Obwon: Apr 18 2011, 08:59 AM

[Obwon]

Have a look here:
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The 9/11 Operation: A Summary by an 'Anonymous US Military Controlled Demolitions Expert' - VeronicaChapman.com

http://www.veronicachapman.com/nyc911/911TruthMilitary.htm
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The stuff about a nuke, seemed pretty irrational to me, but this guy makes more rational sense
of it, than a lay person would be aware. It will take more looking confirm what he's saying but
he makes a good case for suspending judgment on the issue of nukes.

While the missive suffers a lack of proof reading, it's easy to follow and, artifacts aside there's
much about the use of explosives that is to be taken from this. This is the first I've seen where
the number of charges and the time needed to place them is treated. As well as some interesting
additions one might not easily figure.

The detonators, for instance, he claims would have needed safeties, that a radio signal would
remove before they could be detonated. That's when I remember how Metro Call pagers, with
their "ubiquitous" signals, could reliably reach deep into buildings and other structures, to deliver
the needed activations. Since 10,000 of these detonators would need to be placed, a series of computer controlled pagers, would have been the ideal method. All three pager companies
went out of business/bankruptcy, after 9-11, go figure, eh?

Also he thinks of planting listening devices with the explosive charges, to monitor if they've
been discovered, so that operatives (who didn't know what they were doing), would be able to take the needed actions against anyone who discovered them.

Anyway enjoy the read.

Obwon

More 9-11 links:
http://killtown.911review.org/911links.html

This post has been edited by Obwon: Apr 18 2011, 10:15 AM

[Obwon]

<snips>

I don't buy one word of this BS about not being able to reach Condi or Cheney. These folks have access to the most sophisticated communications technology on the planet.

As well as people who follow them around, whose job it is to monitor for
incoming communications. They don't answer phones themselves, because
everything has to be logged, so they have people who take the call for them
and log it, before passing it to them.

Condi was out shopping, but that doesn't mean she was lone.
Her aids and security were probably receiving updated info all along the way.
She had to be choosing to ignore it as long as she could.

Of course, she could no longer ignore it, when some woman, who had seen
tv., broke through the crowd and screamed at her, "What are you doing? People
are dying down there"!

As usual the public was unable to properly evaluate this scene and the media was
of no help.

Obwon

[kawika]

Condi was out shopping...

OUT SHOPPING???????????

There's got to be a law about Federal employees abusing the public monies by not being at her post at 9AM on a Tuesday, normal workday. Let's have a look at her contract and find out what she was getting paid for doing NUTHIN!

Don't these folks have any responsibility to punch in at a certain hour?

[[Maybe an admin. needs to separate these replies into a new thread. The April Gallop theme is getting hijacked by our utter contempt for slug bureaucrats.]]

[amazed!]

Obwon

Interesting reading at VeronicaChapman. I did not read the whole thing, but it's a fair analysis.

The guy is kidding himself, however, about any Boeing at Shanksville. And while anything is possible, I doubt very much that a Global Hawk was involved at the Pentagon.

Interesting stuff about the various demolition charges, but I know nothing about that stuff.

Modern day mini-nukes might explain some of the strange phenomena that day, but I'm no judge of that stuff.

[DoYouEverWonder]

OUT SHOPPING???????????

There's got to be a law about Federal employees abusing the public monies by not being at her post at 9AM on a Tuesday, normal workday. Let's have a look at her contract and find out what she was getting paid for doing NUTHIN!

Don't these folks have any responsibility to punch in at a certain hour?

[[Maybe an admin. needs to separate these replies into a new thread. The April Gallop theme is getting hijacked by our utter contempt for slug bureaucrats.]]

The odd thing that I found out trying to document the whereabouts of our top government officials on the morning of 9/11, is that most of them watched the attack on TV while it was happening and most of them did nothing to prevent or stop the attack while it was in progress.


On 9/11 – Everyone watched the attack on TV


In regards to Condi Rice, she was seen with Cheney in his office at 9:00AM, according to Richard Clarke. Of course, they were both watching TV.


National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice on 9/11

[tit2]

This is extremely worthy of note:

The idea that Cheney knew a plane was heading for the Pentagon is
supported by the 9/11 Commission hearing testimony of the then
transportation secretary, Norman Mineta. Mineta reported to the
Commission that Cheney was in the presidential bunker prior to the
Pentagon “crash” and was tracking the plane as it approached the
Pentagon but not taking action to intercept it.
--------------

Shouldn't Cheney have done something? Like, perhaps, call the Pentagon and
other gov't agencies, to ensure that alarms were sounded? Actions that might very
well be indicated, depending upon what those orders, that were still standing, were.

Obwon

The 9/11 Commission claimed that there was no warning about an unidentified aircraft heading towards Washington until 9:36 (The Pentagon was officially struck at 09:37:46).

The 9/11 commission said that Cheney arrived “shortly before 10:00, perhaps at 9:58” in the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC).

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-M...ffin30mar06.htm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...va&aid=8788

I suppose that these two assertions allow explaining why no action has been taken to inform the occupants of the pentagon of the aircraft approach, but they are probably both wrong for various reasons that the imminent members of "Pilotsfor911truth" certainly know better than me. Some links about the protection of the pentagon and Mineta's Testimony:

1) Confirmed: 9/11 Planes Were Tracked even With Transponders Turned Off:

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/...acked-even.html

2) Mineta's Testimony CONFIRMED :

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/...-confirmed.html

3) New document supports Norman Mineta's testimony about VP Dick Cheney:

http://911blogger-bans-truth.com/news/2011-03-11/new-...-vp-dick-cheney

Below an extract of a statement of Dick Cheney, 5 days after the attacks:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/timeline/...ress091601.html

« after I talked to the president, urged him to stay away for now, well, I went down into what's call a PEOC, the Presidential Emergency Operations Center, and there, I had Norm Mineta...
MR. RUSSERT: Secretary of Transportation.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: ...secretary of Transportation, access to the FAA. I had Condi Rice with me and several of my key staff people. We had access, secured communications with Air Force One, with the secretary of Defense over in the Pentagon. We had also the secure videoconference that ties together the White House, CIA, State, Justice, Defense - a very useful and valuable facility. We have the counterterrorism task force up on that net. And so I was in a position to be able to see all the stuff coming in, receive reports and then make decisions in terms of acting with it. But when I arrived there within a short order, we had word the Pentagon's been hit.”

This post has been edited by tit2: Apr 19 2011, 06:03 AM

[Obwon]

Obwon

Interesting reading at VeronicaChapman. I did not read the whole thing, but it's a fair analysis.

The guy is kidding himself, however, about any Boeing at Shanksville. And while anything is possible, I doubt very much that a Global Hawk was involved at the Pentagon.

Interesting stuff about the various demolition charges, but I know nothing about that stuff.

Modern day mini-nukes might explain some of the strange phenomena that day, but I'm no judge of that stuff.

Yes, many sites have it wrong about one or more of the 4 attack zones. My guess is that
the author did not do much reading about the other attacks. After all, there's so much and so many theories to read about each, it's hardly a wonder why any one person wouldn't be up-to-date on them all. Of course, for people who dealt mostly with the Pentagon, even seeing the mention of a Global Hawk is a turn off. But who knows, perhaps that was the state of consensus, when that writer was reading about the WTC.

But, this guy's field is explosives, so that's what should be taken away from his writing, there he probably has a good grip on the issues. Well enough, at least, to inform us of what obstacles stood in the way, what the logistics might have looked like. Thus giving us more clues to look for. Explaining things we may have dismissed too soon.

I'm no judge of it either, but, making mention of it else wheres, will certainly invite other, knowledgeable people to explain further, hopefully.

Obwon