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Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum _ American 11 _ Aa11 -20 Degree Turn By The Atc To Avoid Traffic -then Nothing

Posted by: roscoe Feb 8 2014, 03:28 AM

In your excellent film

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6WSDxErgBE

You say that at approximately 08:15 American 11 was given a 20 degree turn to the right TO AVOID CONFLICTING TRAFFIC.

WHAT WAS THIS OTHER AIRCRAFT?

Posted by: poppyburner Feb 8 2014, 11:06 PM

QUOTE (roscoe @ Feb 8 2014, 07:28 AM) *
In your excellent film

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6WSDxErgBE

You say that at approximately 08:15 American 11 was given a 20 degree turn to the right TO AVOID CONFLICTING TRAFFIC.

WHAT WAS THIS OTHER AIRCRAFT?


A crucial question!

QUOTE (Logan Air Traffic Control transcript)
'8:11:58 — 46R: AAL11, your traffic is at, uh, 2 o'clock 20 miles southwest-bound MD80 310.
...
8:13:29 — 46R: AAL11, turn 20 degrees right.

8:13:31 — AAL11: 20 right AAL11.
...
46R: This is Boston, I turned American 20 left and I was going to climb him. He will not respond to me now at all.

38R: Look's like he's turning right.

46R: Yea I turned him 20 right. '


~ http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/16/national/16FLIGHT11-TEXT.html.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_MD-80

According to the http://apps.bts.gov/xml/ontimesummarystatistics/src/ddisp/OntimeSummaryDataDisp.xml database: there was http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL310 (DFW (Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport) to BWI (Baltimore–Washington International Airport)); but it had a 14:16 P.M. scheduled departure time and was cancelled.

So maybe I'm looking at the wrong plane.

In the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6WSDxErgBE, this villain seems to vanish from radar (@ 29:43), approximately at New Jersey's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood_Lake_Airport?

Posted by: poppyburner Feb 10 2014, 02:24 PM

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Flight levels are described by a number, which is this nominal altitude ("pressure altitude") in feet, divided by 100, while being a multiple of 500 ft, therefore always ending on 0 or 5. Therefore an apparent altitude of, for example, 32,000 feet is referred to as "flight level 320".


~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_level

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Posted by: roscoe Apr 1 2014, 12:18 AM

This is very interesting. What was MD80?

Looks like a switch.

I take it you know that the Air traffic controller that handled AA11 and UA175 out of Boston also handled Egypt Air 990 in 1999.

Posted by: poppyburner Apr 1 2014, 09:30 AM

Intriguing; thanks.

I don't know how seriously to take that animation above, after watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kflpihuKVLM

But as there's seemingly so little investigation in this subject, I though that it'd be helpful for us to pull together whatever we can find.

Posted by: amazed! Apr 5 2014, 11:10 AM

I'm guessing "310" was the altitude of the MD80.

Posted by: poppyburner Apr 5 2014, 01:21 PM

QUOTE (amazed! @ Apr 5 2014, 03:10 PM) *
I'm guessing "310" was the altitude of the MD80.


lol better late than never.

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