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Truth Is Straight Forward., level headed thinking

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post Feb 2 2010, 10:51 AM
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...sort of abstract,
but:


Ever notice the words used to describe the truth?

The cold hard facts, the little white lie, bending the truth...

We all like to think of ourselves as level headed individuals,
but there are those who bend the truth,
to lead another to act in a different way, or direction.

People think their beliefs to be straight forward,
while others may think that an idea is bent,
if it does not conform with their own.

Some people just seem to think in circles.
The lie, sounds like its' flat on the level ground, but it just looks that way.
Really a lie, is a bending of the truth, sometimes so great that it distorts
ones reality.

The deeper one looks, into the truth, the more vaster and deeper truths one finds, beyond every level. But one must go through a level of truth, and rise to a greater understanding, of it, before getting to the next.

When one achieves a certain level of truth, others,
that used to seem level headed,
look like they are caught in a vortex of lies, they believe.
...and they may see you, as no longer being level headed.

By bending the truth to those around them,
a corrupt politician can rise to power...for a while,
until they are caught, and brought down.

Truth at every level seems straight forward,
but at different levels, those other levels look bent,
or curved, even though each level must be reasonably straight forward.

Truth, from a greater perspective, could be seen to be in layers each being more flatter and more vast than the one below.

Within these layers of truth are intense, but small white lies, which tend to gather in clusters and become beliefs, or even greater spiraling 'isms, and ities

Of course, there must be a way of traveling in this layered universe of truth, interspersed with greater concentrations of white lies going down, and clearer and vaster layers of truth above.

The fastest one can travel through any layer of truth,
is the speed of thought.
Which can be measured as a frequency,
through the density of little white lies,
in that strata of truth.

As one rises through into higher levels of truth,
the little white lies become darker and denser and smaller, and far below,
as one rises into the infinite vastness of truth.

A lie bends the truth around it,
forming it's own reality that cannot interact with the truth of the universe,
when closely examined, there is nothing there, just bent truth.

Want/desire, is the gravity of the lie, bent truth is what it is made from.
Everybody wants the truth, so they are drawn to the curvature of truth around the lie, which they can't see, below the bent truth around it.

Like the matter and energy of the universe,
lies descend inward, and truth radiates outward,
at the speed of thought.

...∞i∞...
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post Feb 4 2010, 08:05 AM
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thanks for sharing lunk.
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post Oct 29 2010, 07:36 PM
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In the film “The Good Shepherd”, Michael Gambon as Dr. Fredericks spoke of the “Truth” as being bent and the non-truth as being a straight line.

He said lies were hidden in layers of truth.


"Quit... while you still have a soul" Bad dog...
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post Oct 30 2010, 12:02 AM
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Only the Truth can ever be proven. Simply because it's the Truth.

It is in it's nature to be proven - to be revealed.

Lies can only be shown - can only be pointed out.

For only when Truth is revealed, does the lie become obvious.


Wonder if i'm getting this right!?


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post Oct 30 2010, 02:04 PM
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In Pseudo-religions like Mormonism, Scientology and aspects of Christianity…the “Truth” is the last thing taken into consideration.

The “reliability” upon faith and trust in un-trustworthy concepts invokes beliefs, not resting on logic or material evidence.

In America, right wing, republican politics have gone mad with never telling the truth. They promote hate and violence on all levels and sadly it is working.

Jessep: You can't handle the truth!

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You?
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post Oct 30 2010, 08:16 PM
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Yes, but it is the same, single, awareness and consciousness, within each.
And if, we were all, ever to know this, there would be no need for guns.

...but, there are still a lot of people who don't want to know this,
and worse, they have the biggest guns.
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post Nov 1 2010, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE (elreb @ Oct 28 2010, 05:04 PM) *
In Pseudo-religions like Mormonism, Scientology and aspects of Christianity…the “Truth” is the last thing taken into consideration.

The “reliability” upon faith and trust in un-trustworthy concepts invokes beliefs, not resting on logic or material evidence.

In America, right wing, republican politics have gone mad with never telling the truth. They promote hate and violence on all levels and sadly it is working.

Jessep: You can't handle the truth!

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You?



Well spoken, elreb, so damn True.

Beautiful input. Nothing to add.


much cheers
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post Nov 1 2010, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (lunk @ Oct 28 2010, 11:16 PM) *
Yes, but it is the same, single, awareness and consciousness, within each.
And if, we were all, ever to know this, there would be no need for guns.

...but, there are still a lot of people who don't want to know this,
and worse, they have the biggest guns.



Guns cannot kill the soul nor the spirit. Guns are mere illusions and therefore
worthless. So are the people who aggressively use them to 'physically' kill others.

Thought i should just add this little snippet to your otherwise true and wise comment!

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post Nov 1 2010, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Nov 1 2010, 03:19 AM) *
Well spoken, elreb, so damn True.

Beautiful input. Nothing to add.


Now I’m speechless…imagine that!
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post Nov 2 2010, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE (elreb @ Oct 30 2010, 05:26 PM) *
Now I’m speechless…imagine that!



Unimaginable! thumbsup.gif


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post Nov 3 2010, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Nov 2 2010, 02:23 PM) *
Unimaginable! thumbsup.gif


In the recent mid-term elections, Hawaii was the only State that stayed “True Blue” and voted in all Democrats. We are a very “People Centric” environment and the land is the ʻāina that is closest to ones heart, or where there kūpuna (elders) live.

Inā he Hawaiʻi ʻoe ma ke koko a i ole ma ka puʻuwai, e kū ʻoe me ka haʻaheo! Hōʻike ʻoe i kou haʻaheo i kau lāhui a me ke aloha i ka ʻāina a me ka honua holoʻokoʻa!

The more of us that show our love of the ʻāina, (land) the stronger we are, and the closer we will be to regaining our independence!

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post Nov 4 2010, 12:08 AM
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Yes, the big island of Hawaii is on exactly the same latitude as the pyramid of the sun, in Mexico.
(i zoomed in on google maps to the big island, and panned East)

We live in a universe of volumes,
so geometry must be a fundamental construct.
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post Nov 4 2010, 08:01 PM
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Funny but you are right…

I checked it out…very interesting

And like Mexico…Hawaii needed outside influences to bring change.

The three things Europeans brought to Hawaii were spam, toilet paper and cigarettes…

As an extra bonus, they also brought taxes!
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post Nov 4 2010, 08:33 PM
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How bizarre. I live in Japan, and when you mention spam one can only think of Okinawan food ... Okinawa food is famous, or notorious, for having spam in everything. Okinawa too, same latitude as Mexico, nearly the same as Hawaii. dunno.gif
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QUOTE (Sanders @ Nov 4 2010, 02:33 PM) *
How bizarre. I live in Japan, and when you mention spam one can only think of Okinawan food ... Okinawa food is famous, or notorious, for having spam in everything. Okinawa too, same latitude as Mexico, nearly the same as Hawaii. dunno.gif


SPAM is apparently a WWII food because the Philippines like it too especially with rice.

In Florida we called it “Hurricane” food because it would last a long time.

Our dogs wouldn’t even eat it. Heck…it is mostly fat and salt!

I send the Hawaiian brand to the mainland as “Gag” food.
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This thread...“Truth is straight forward”... could or should be the “Peanut Galleria”.

Functionally, it would be without conviction…yet…honest comment.

Example:”Ah ha”…this new guy is about to get a cartoon…”Kids down” [Secret word = the door or quiet time

Bad Newbie
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post Nov 5 2010, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE (elreb @ Nov 2 2010, 10:01 PM) *
Funny but you are right…

I checked it out…very interesting

And like Mexico…Hawaii needed outside influences to bring change.

The three things Europeans brought to Hawaii were spam, toilet paper and cigarettes…

As an extra bonus, they also brought taxes!



According to the Monty Python mob, it seems that the Vikings (we kings) couldn't get enough of SPAM!

Shouldn't surprise me if there's a certain amount of truth to this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE


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QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Nov 4 2010, 07:09 PM) *
According to the Monty Python mob, it seems that the Vikings (we kings) couldn't get enough of SPAM!

Shouldn't surprise me if there's a certain amount of truth to this.


1% of people care about SPAM, the rest just wants to laugh at you.

People will take interest, not because they want to create their own personal database of SPAM meals.

They follow along purely to watch you eat things they find so disgusting that dogs would not eat it, hoping today is the day for your life-flight to the hospital.
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menu item #1: spam, spam, eggs and spam.
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post Nov 6 2010, 11:02 PM
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Where is your spam from (the canned meat stuff)?

i think mine comes in tins from Brazil.
(one of the luxuries of camping)
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