Incredible Fence Sitting, & years and still no answer Options

[BaNoyes]

Here it is, flat out
Can a 767 fly at 512kts at 700ft
The answers is... NONE
I have read every post ,there is a lot of info, but not one answer
Why???
Can ANY airplane enter a building as is shown in many videos,say the flight175 turn and burn video
Answer... NONE
Why???
I find it difficult to think that with all the pilots and aircraft people on this site that an informed opinion on these things has not been arrivied at.
I myself have arrived at a conclusion , but, I am not a pilot or an aircraft person
except for the 4 years I spent on different USN Carriers as a Parachute Rigger/LOX Crew
How about it?
Get off the fence
Answer the questions.

[rob balsamo]

Pilots fly within the envelope of the aircraft and limits specified by the manufacturer. How can you expect an "informed opinion" when in essence, none of us have flown a 767 at such speeds?

The answer is we dont know and are looking into it. When we know, you'll know.


We dont speculate.

or...

Feel free to contact Boeing yourself for Wind Tunnel data as we are hitting alot of brick walls. Post the wind tunnel data when it arrives and we'll examine it and give you an answer based on data, not speculation.

[BaNoyes]

Pilots fly within the envelope of the aircraft and limits specified by the manufacturer. How can you expect an "informed opinion" when in essence, none of us have flown a 767 at such speeds?

The answer is we dont know and are looking into it. When we know, you'll know.


We dont speculate.

or...

Feel free to contact Boeing yourself for Wind Tunnel data as we are hitting alot of brick walls. Post the wind tunnel data when it arrives and we'll examine it and give you an answer based on data, not speculation.

It is not speculation ,, there are pilots on this site who have flown the 767 ,Russ Wittemberg is one
There a many math answers
"The air at 700ft is 30% denser then at 30,000ft ..."
so how is it with all the years of decision making,some,I assume in critical situations, that not one pilot will say
It is not possible to fly a 767 512kts at 700ft
I understand no one has done it, I don't understand why you and others will not give an informed opinion about this.
I also do not know why the question of Flight 175's "entrance" into the tower is so avoided
There it is right in front of you and all and no one will say
"It is not possible for an aircraft to enter a building" airplanes cannot fly through steel and concrete without smashing to pieces.
You can cover yourself with the "speculation" angle ,if you chose, to me it is simply fence sitting...a fear of commitment.a disloyality to your instincts

This post has been edited by BaNoyes: Nov 16 2008, 01:19 PM

[rob balsamo]

Opinions are like assholes... everyone has one and they all stink.

You want opinion. We want data.

We have gone over this issue ad nauseum in this forum. It is speculation if we dont have the data nor have flown a 767 at such speeds. Sorry that doesnt help you or your theory much, but that is the answer until we have data.

Since this issue has been reviewed ad nauseum, and we still do not have hard data for such an answer, this thread is closed. Please use the search function for more in depth discussion regarding this issue.


edit to add: you are also wrong regarding atmospheric pressure. Try googling constant pressure mb charts. Only 30% of the atmosphere is left above 30k. 50% left above 18k. Which means the air is almost 70% "more dense" near sea level than at 30K.