New Faa "flight 77" Flight Path Animation Shows North Of Citgo Approach, a government reaction to the work of CIT & P4T? |

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New Faa "flight 77" Flight Path Animation Shows North Of Citgo Approach, a government reaction to the work of CIT & P4T? |
Sep 15 2008, 10:51 PM
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Group: Contributor Posts: 1,072 Joined: 15-October 06 Member No.: 75 |
(this is the language I used on a thread over at ATS. I am reposting it here so people understand the full CIT view of this mind-boggling release)
The CIT approach to this investigation from the start has been to not accept data that has been controlled and provided for by the suspect (the government) as valid evidence. That is the only logical approach to any investigation and we will stay true to that logic and question government provided data that might seem to support our conclusions just as much as we would data that supports the official story. Last week, 1 day after the 7th anniversary of the attacks, the FAA released yet another animation of the alleged flight path of "Flight 77" via FOIA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHjN4sfyqIc cover letter from FAA As you can see they have the plane crossing over from the south to the north side of Columbia Pike just over the Navy Annex exactly like Ed Paik and all of the NoC witnesses describe. (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight%20path/FAAONA.jpg) (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight%20path/FAANoC.jpg) This is irreconcilable with all other official data, reports, and all physical damage yet matches perfectly with this: (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/gifs/citgoguys2.gif) (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/witness%20flight%20paths/noccomposite.jpg) (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/gifs/ancgif2.gif) (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/witness%20flight%20paths/ancpathcomposite.jpg) Why they would release an animation showing an approach that is irreconcilable with all physical damage and all other data is a mystery to be sure, but considering the fact that this is where all of the witnesses in the area unanimously saw the plane fly, we can not simply write it off as a "coincidence". Our biggest problem with it is that the independent verifiable evidence we have obtained supports a flight path over DC with the plane coming from east of the Potomac River something like this: (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight%20path/2421.jpg) But this new animation shows a loop more similar to what the 2006 released NTSB data shows: (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight%20path/FAAflightpath1.jpg) (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight%20path/ntsbfraud.jpg) So while it does depict a north side final approach we do not believe this is honestly depicting true radar data for the Pentagon attack jet. But the precise north side banking maneuver depicted can not simply be an accident or coincidence given all the independent evidence proving a general approach of this nature. This was clearly created for a reason. It may simply be an obfuscation effort to make it seem like there is a large enough margin of error between north or south of the citgo that it would be an easy "mistake" to make. But to eyewitnesses on the ground in the critical areas with the critical vantage points, this is simply not the case. And there is absolutely zero room for error in the south side approach flight path most obviously due to the downed light poles, the cab, and the generator trailer. The incredible timing of this release should not go unmentioned since of course we only recently obtained and released all of the additional validation of this north side banking flight path from the witnesses at Arlington Cemetery only 6 weeks prior and Pilots for 9/11 Truth released their new presentation with animations of their own depicting virtually the exact same bank only one day prior with a trailer 8 days prior. What's actually comical about this is how hard the pseudo-skeptics tried to claim this flight path is "impossible"! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Would the FAA really go out of their way to animate something so precise and deliberate with such a drastic bank if it was "impossible"? I think not. (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight%20path/noradnorthpath.jpg) This post has been edited by Craig Ranke CIT: Sep 16 2008, 10:28 AM |
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Oct 5 2008, 05:42 AM
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Group: Student Forum Pilot Posts: 15 Joined: 19-September 08 Member No.: 3,833 |
Didn't Farmer post an "explanation" of this on his web site?
Something like "it is just an approximation". |
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Oct 5 2008, 08:54 AM
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Patriotic American Group: Valued Member Posts: 518 Joined: 14-May 07 From: Where I am standing on the RUINS of the 9-11 OFFICIAL STORY Member No.: 1,045 |
(IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight%20path/FAANoC.jpg)
Download that FAA video and watch it on a large screen hi-rez monitor. It is much better than the YouTube version. If you look at the aircraft just before it hits the Pentagon, (see photo below) the wings are at a 45 degree angle. With a wingspan of 124 ft 10 in, in order to hit the original very small 1st story hole, the entire 55 feet of starboard wing and the engine would have to be underground. The aircraft should have caught a wingtip earlier and cartwheeled across the lawn. The port engine should have struck the wall up on the 2nd story and the port wing should have struck across all four storys on the facade. And of course it completely missed all 5 light poles and the generator. The light poles are a hundred feet to the south of the red flight path. In actuality you can see that the aircraft is far too high to hit the 1st story because the right wing is not hitting the ground. They are essentially showing a flyover even though the animated aircraft disappears above the Pentagon wall in a scattering of pixels. What a joke. Is somebody on the inside deliberately screwing them over? Of course they still have that fraudulent loop southwest of the Pentagon and they omitted the true flight across the Potomac, over DC, back across the Potomac, and banking around Reagan. FAA video - aircraft just before impact Link to FAA video source - 1 AWA 714 pentagon_more2.mpg (mpg file, 12 mb) Find the file, right click on it, and download it to your hard drive This post has been edited by SPreston: Oct 5 2008, 09:03 AM |
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Oct 5 2008, 03:02 PM
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Group: Student Forum Pilot Posts: 15 Joined: 19-September 08 Member No.: 3,833 |
(IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight%20path/FAANoC.jpg) Download that FAA video and watch it on a large screen hi-rez monitor. It is much better than the YouTube version. If you look at the aircraft just before it hits the Pentagon, (see photo below) the wings are at a 45 degree angle. With a wingspan of 124 ft 10 in, in order to hit the original very small 1st story hole, the entire 55 feet of starboard wing and the engine would have to be underground. The aircraft should have caught a wingtip earlier and cartwheeled across the lawn. The port engine should have struck the wall up on the 2nd story and the port wing should have struck across all four storys on the facade. And of course it completely missed all 5 light poles and the generator. The light poles are a hundred feet to the south of the red flight path. In actuality you can see that the aircraft is far too high to hit the 1st story because the right wing is not hitting the ground. They are essentially showing a flyover even though the animated aircraft disappears above the Pentagon wall in a scattering of pixels. What a joke. Is somebody on the inside deliberately screwing them over? Of course they still have that fraudulent loop southwest of the Pentagon and they omitted the true flight across the Potomac, over DC, back across the Potomac, and banking around Reagan. FAA video - aircraft just before impact Link to FAA video source - 1 AWA 714 pentagon_more2.mpg (mpg file, 12 mb) Find the file, right click on it, and download it to your hard drive SPreston, thanks for the info. I posted almost exactly the same thoughts on the CIT forum: http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...c=343&st=45 --- The last frame, before they block out half the animation with what looks like a nuclear blast, shows the plane almost vertical with left wing down (almost in the ground?) and right wing up. Seems to me the wing should have cut a long trench in the ground, was it low enough to hit the building (based on this FAA video). I have uploaded a high quality .mp4 here (YouTube have begun censoring like crazy): http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=adf7d9c...2db6fb9a8902bda --- As I posted earlier, John Farmer has posted on his blog "laughing" at "the idiots" as he writes, because the video is obviously only an "approximation". Don't know if that's credible at all? I know he's not the most loved guy around here (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) /Martin |
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Sep 4 2011, 08:02 PM
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![]() Group: Admin Posts: 9,266 Joined: 13-August 06 Member No.: 1 |
Bumping this for some who have asked...
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Sep 5 2011, 03:30 AM
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dig deeper ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 972 Joined: 16-October 06 From: arlington va Member No.: 96 |
lurker's contribution about an unidentified pentagon witness moved to its own topic here:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21586 separately, regarding the STK video from the op, more info: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=14629 http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10753500 http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10753947 |
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