Us Protesters Rally To Occupy Wall Street Options

[Quest]

The ignorance of many of these "protesteors" is absolutely frightening. No surprise because it looks like, as suggested by some that this 'protest' was started as an inside job. Many of these protestors are students who want to to use government to pass off their financial obligations on to you and me.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/occupy-wall-st...n-of-obama.html

Some of these students in the below video remind me much of George Bernard Shaw and his comments in "The Soviet Story".

Occupy Wall Street Protesters Call For Totalitarian Government, Re-Election Of Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFVR9Nv43J4...player_embedded

President Obama and The Occupy Wall St. Protesters: Common Ground in Liberty Park?
https://occupywallst.org/forum/president-ob...st-protesters-/

This post has been edited by Quest: Oct 2 2011, 03:21 PM

[André]

The Best Among Us

Choose. But choose fast. The state and corporate forces are determined to crush this. They are not going to wait for you. They are terrified this will spread. This is what it means to be alive. They are the best among us.

by Chrish Hedges

“There are no excuses left. Either you join the revolt taking place on Wall Street and in the financial districts of other cities across the country or you stand on the wrong side of history. Either you obstruct, in the only form left to us, which is civil disobedience, the plundering by the criminal class on Wall Street and accelerated destruction of the ecosystem that sustains the human species, or become the passive enabler of a monstrous evil. Either you taste, feel and smell the intoxication of freedom and revolt or sink into the miasma of despair and apathy. Either you are a rebel or a slave.

To be declared innocent in a country where the rule of law means nothing, where we have undergone a corporate coup, where the poor and working men and women are reduced to joblessness and hunger, where war, financial speculation and internal surveillance are the only real business of the state, where even habeas corpus no longer exists, where you, as a citizen, are nothing more than a commodity to corporate systems of power, one to be used and discarded, is to be complicit in this radical evil. To stand on the sidelines and say “I am innocent” is to bear the mark of Cain; it is to do nothing to reach out and help the weak, the oppressed and the suffering, to save the planet. To be innocent in times like these is to be a criminal. Ask Tim DeChristopher.

Choose. But choose fast. The state and corporate forces are determined to crush this. They are not going to wait for you. They are terrified this will spread. They have their long phalanxes of police on motorcycles, their rows of white paddy wagons, their foot soldiers hunting for you on the streets with pepper spray and orange plastic nets. They have their metal barricades set up on every single street leading into the New York financial district, where the mandarins in Brooks Brothers suits use your money, money they stole from you, to gamble and speculate and gorge themselves while one in four children outside those barricades depend on food stamps to eat. Speculation in the 17th century was a crime. Speculators were hanged. Today they run the state and the financial markets. They disseminate the lies that pollute our airwaves. They know, even better than you, how pervasive the corruption and theft have become, how gamed the system is against you, how corporations have cemented into place a thin oligarchic class and an obsequious cadre of politicians, judges and journalists who live in their little gated Versailles while 6 million Americans are thrown out of their homes, a number soon to rise to 10 million, where a million people a year go bankrupt because they cannot pay their medical bills and 45,000 die from lack of proper care, where real joblessness is spiraling to over 20 percent, where the citizens, including students, spend lives toiling in debt peonage, working dead-end jobs, when they have jobs, a world devoid of hope, a world of masters and serfs.

So either you rise up and supplant them, either you dismantle the corporate state, for a world of sanity, a world where we no longer kneel before the absurd idea that the demands of financial markets should govern human behavior, or we are frog-marched toward self-annihilation.

Those on the streets around Wall Street are the physical embodiment of hope. They know that hope has a cost, that it is not easy or comfortable, that it requires self-sacrifice and discomfort and finally faith. They sleep on concrete every night. Their clothes are soiled. They have eaten more bagels and peanut butter than they ever thought possible. They have tasted fear, been beaten, gone to jail, been blinded by pepper spray, cried, hugged each other, laughed, sung, talked too long in general assemblies, seen their chants drift upward to the office towers above them, wondered if it is worth it, if anyone cares, if they will win. But as long as they remain steadfast they point the way out of the corporate labyrinth.

This is what it means to be alive. They are the best among us.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/

[André]

The Marines are coming to #OccupyWallStreet to Protect the Protesters

Dressed in uniform 16 or more marines so far and Army troops will be headed to the Occupy Wall Street demonstration to protect the protesters against the police crackdown. “We all took an oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution of this country. That’s what we will be doing” wrote Reddit user ‘theenemywasme’ calling all Military Veterans in the popular social site to join him.

United States Army and Marine troops are departing tonight on their way to various protest locations in support of the movement and to protect the protesters:

I’m heading up there tonight in my dress blues. So far, 15 of my fellow marine buddies are meeting me there, also in Uniform.

I want to send the following message to Wall St and Congress:

I didn’t fight for Wall St. I fought for America. Now it’s Congress’ turn.

My true hope, though, is that we Veterans can act as first line of defense between the police and the protester. If they want to get to some protesters so they can mace them, they will have to get through the Fucking Marine Corps first. Let’s see a cop mace a bunch of decorated war vets.

A formation will be held tonight at 10PM. We all took an oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution of this country.
That’s what we will be doing.

http://freakoutnation.com/

[rob balsamo]

As I have been saying since day 1 and history has proven since the dawn of man, their arrogance is their weakness, peasants win revolutions.

Get ready folks... here it comes.

The only way i can see this grassroots effort 'arrested' (albeit temporarily), is a patsie detonating a bomb in the middle of a large demonstration, and then blamed on the protestors without any evidence whatsoever. It will be splashed all over Mockingbird Mainstream media, and martial law (or close to it) declared. Which will only inflame the situation more. Which is why i say it will be a "temporary".

The second shot heard across the world is coming soon, I hope i am wrong.


Stock up on food, water, weapons and ammo if you havent already.

[painter]

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City
Posted on September 30, 2011 by NYCGA

THIS DOCUMENT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE NYC GENERAL ASSEMBLY ON SEPTEMBER 29, 2011
As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.
They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.
They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.
They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.
They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.
They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.
They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.
They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.
They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.
They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.
They have sold our privacy as a commodity.
They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.
They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.
They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.
They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.
They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.
They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.
They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.
They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.
They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

To the people of the world,

We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

Join us and make your voices heard!

*These grievances are not all-inclusive.

Update 10/1/11 – Minor updates to some wording in the facts.

Source: http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-...-new-york-city/

[painter]

The ignorance of many of these "protesteors" is absolutely frightening. No surprise because it looks like, as suggested by some that this 'protest' was started as an inside job. Many of these protestors are students who want to to use government to pass off their financial obligations on to you and me.

I would much rather pay for the education of a working class human being trying to better themselves and the world than the perverted life style of some rich mother fucker on Wall Street gaming our corrupt financial system or some fat-ass banking executive from the City of London manipulating the world's currencies. I'd much rather pay for your health care, especially as you age and can no longer work, than for weapons of mass destruction used by our armed forces in imperial wars of aggression for the benefit of corporate greed -- all barely hidden under the pretense of a war on terrorism. We're talking TRILLIONS of dollars in war and bailout in the last decade alone. TRILLIONS! And now these mother fuckers want to end Social Security, Medicare and make all of us into serfs.

As I've said many times in the past, I'm all for a "War on Terror"... but lets be clear who the real terrorists are. They aren't wearing turbans and living in caves. No. They wear suits and ties, are driven around in limos and live in Manhattan, Rome, London and Paris. They are a bloated, hierarchical, privileged criminal class who keep the little people at one another's throats while they get away with mass murder, war crimes and crimes against humanity. Literally. In the world, 2% of the population own more than half of the wealth. In the US, the top 1% controls 40% of the wealth. And this quantitative disparity has a direct affect on the QUALITY of life for everyone. At base all this isn't about MONEY, what it is about is the right of everyone to have a quality life FREE from the oppression of those whose wealth gives them the right to exploit and pollute everyone else's personal, social, psychological and natural environment.

[André]

The revolution starts now
Steve Earle

I was walkin’ down the street
In the town where I was born
I was movin’ to a beat
That I’d never felt before
So I opened up my eyes
And I took a look around
I saw it written ‘cross the sky
The revolution starts now
Yeah, the revolution starts now

The revolution starts now
When you rise above your fear
And tear the walls around you down
The revolution starts here
Where you work and where you play
Where you lay your money down
What you do and what you say
The revolution starts now
Yeah the revolution starts now

Yeah the revolution starts now
In your own backyard
In your own hometown
So what you doin’ standin’ around?
Just follow your heart
The revolution starts now

Last night I had a dream
That the world had turned around
And all our hopes had come to be
And the people gathered ‘round
They all brought what they could bring
And nobody went without
And I learned a song to sing
The revolution starts now

[Devilsadvocate]

I take it that this started with around a half dozen people.

Last weekend around 700 got arrested: If that would have been each and every protestor involved, it would still mean a hundred-fold increase.
The simple fact that this is still possible these days gives me hope...

Let's hope it will be a thousand-fold next week-- and that it spreads across the globe by the week after that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

This post has been edited by Devilsadvocate: Oct 3 2011, 12:40 PM

[Munkle]

Obviously this has the potential to grow to include the ultimate demand: 9/11 Truth. These protesters are young and almost all Truth-savvy. Here is where you suggest/vote for demands to be included, official page:

http://coupmedia.org/occupywallstreet/occu...al-demands-2009

THEME:
Only 9/11 truth will end the 9/11 Wars. Only ending the wars can save the economy."


also facebook here

http://www.facebook.com/OccupyWallSt

this is sending a chill down my spine, this could happen.

Los Angeles anti-war march: ONLY 9/11 TRUTH CAN END THE WARS.

[DoYouEverWonder]

I take it that this started with around a half dozen people.

Last weekend around 700 got arrested: If that would have been each and every protestor involved, it would still mean a hundred-fold increase.
The simple fact that this is still possible these days gives me hope...

Let's hope it will be a thousand-fold next week-- and that it spreads across the globe by the week after that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

Actually, it was started by a slick advertising group called Adbusters.

[DANDPT]

Good to see old-fashioned street action again!

I hope the grassroots unions get their act together and stage a mass march to show support.

I think that the following post is an important and insightful article by Dr. Webster G. Tarpley.
Go to................ tarpley.net and the second article listed is titled:
Emergency Program for Anti-Wall Street Protestors.
It gives a good prognosis of where this protest might be headed as it is mitigated by Obama operatives.

[André]

I think that the following post is an important and insightful article by Dr. Webster G. Tarpley.
Go to................ tarpley.net and the second article listed is titled:
Emergency Program for Anti-Wall Street Protestors.
It gives a good prognosis of where this protest might be headed as it is mitigated by Obama operatives.

http://tarpley.net/2011/09/29/emergency-pr...eet-protestors/

[Werdna]

The MSM over here is doling out the impression that this is just a bunch of poor, disgruntled students having a bit of a rant and a rave at the authorities. I don't think the average Aussie has yet picked up the vibe... it's not yet being discussed in my social/work circles yet. It would be useful to get the "Declaration for the Occupation of New York City" out into the mainstream somehow. That statement sums it up brilliantly. Hang in there.

[onesliceshort]

I think that the following post is an important and insightful article by Dr. Webster G. Tarpley.
Go to................ tarpley.net and the second article listed is titled:
Emergency Program for Anti-Wall Street Protestors.
It gives a good prognosis of where this protest might be headed as it is mitigated by Obama operatives.

Cointel will always try and control and steer dissenting voices.
I see it as an opportunity for a wake up call on a mass scale if the 99% of genuine protesters aren't corralled up the path the "dark side" has set up for them.

It's also an opportunity to get people off of their asses and take a stand. Even if the only result is to let people know what it's like to actually take their streets and dignity back, it will be worth it.

As for leadership and goals, there would be people there from very different backgrounds with different agendas so the main one that they should stick to is tearing the corporate empire down. At least do something to fire a warning shot across their bows. End of story.

It's the details that usually mess things up.

There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time.

Malcolm X

[GroundPounder]

i have mixed feelings about tarpley. phD's are really Piled Higher and Deeper. his (almost) aspersion of dubious hollywood types implies some intimate knowledge of the motivations of others. that's what phD's are prone to. occupational hazard i suppose. if they could stay on task and not let their egos dictate the particulars we would all be better off.

the points he makes are ok; the solutions, well, worthy of discussion.

having been in marches before, i was wrong about the ny one occurring now. perhaps i was jaded or disillusioned, no matter. maybe this is the tipping point. clearly we can not go on as we have.

it will be interesting to see what happens in dc..one which, out of necessity, i will be forced to attend. sometimes, you have to do what you got to do.

[André]

As for leadership and goals, there would be people there from very different backgrounds with different agendas so the main one that they should stick to is tearing the corporate empire down. At least do something to fire a warning shot across their bows. End of story.

It's the details that usually mess things up.

I agree, I don't believe this movement should limit itself to a few specific issues, people will find their way as they go along and hijacking this thing will be hard, politicians from both parties are not welcomed and I know of at least one democratic congress critter who was booed and ridiculed by the protesters when he showed up...

This should not be about demands from the serfs to the master but more about creating a world without masters or serfs.

my 2cents.

[André]

it will be interesting to see what happens in dc..one which, out of necessity, i will be forced to attend. sometimes, you have to do what you got to do.

From what I have read the DC occupation is supposed to be much better organized, should be interesting...

[Devilsadvocate]

The Transport Workers Union Local 100 filed a request in Manhattan federal court today for an order preventing the New York City Police Department and the Transit Authority from requiring drivers to transport protesters.

Drivers were ordered to bus some of the 700 demonstrators arrested over the weekend during anti-Wall Street protests in lower Manhattan, said Jim Gannon, a spokesman for the union, which represents 38,000 members, including about 9,000 city bus drivers.

The government can only force people to assist police when there is “imminent danger,” Local 100 President John Samuelsen said in a statement. Local 100 members participate in “legitimate” police and fire department emergencies as needed, he said.

“There was no imminent danger here,” Samuelsen said. “The protesters this weekend appeared to be marching peacefully, as is their right.”

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-0...t-protests.html

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[DoYouEverWonder]

i have mixed feelings about tarpley. phD's are really Piled Higher and Deeper. his (almost) aspersion of dubious hollywood types implies some intimate knowledge of the motivations of others. that's what phD's are prone to. occupational hazard i suppose. if they could stay on task and not let their egos dictate the particulars we would all be better off.

the points he makes are ok; the solutions, well, worthy of discussion.

having been in marches before, i was wrong about the ny one occurring now. perhaps i was jaded or disillusioned, no matter. maybe this is the tipping point. clearly we can not go on as we have.

it will be interesting to see what happens in dc..one which, out of necessity, i will be forced to attend. sometimes, you have to do what you got to do.

Didn't Tarpley start out with Lyndon LaRouche? And then there was the Kennebunkport bs.

[GroundPounder]

i didn't know about the tarpley-larouche connection. lots of people have been in jail that didn't deserve to be and lots of people aren't in jail that deserve to be. bush, cheney, rumsfeld, wolfowitz, feith, zelikow, perle.....