Bisphenol A, from baby bottles to tin cans Options

[lunk]

This chemical has recently shown up in the news lately.

Bisphenol A, mimics the female hormone estrogen, it has been found to affect fish in parts per trillion.
It leaches out of certain plastics and the unnecessary epoxy linings in tin canned food.

http://www.environmentaldefence.ca/pressro...news.php?id=306

"The study, Toxic Baby Bottles in Canada: Bisphenol A Leaching from Popular Brands of Polycarbonate Baby Bottles, found bisphenol A leaches at significant levels from plastic baby bottles when they are heated. Lab results found leaching of bisphenol A with a range of 5-8 ng/ml (parts per billion) among the bottles tested. Recent scientific research shows that bisphenol A can be harmful at doses below the levels found in the study."

So what does the gov't do?

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/nr-cp.../2008_59_e.html

"Canada is the first country in the world to complete a risk assessment of bisphenol A in consultation with industry and other stakeholders, and to initiate a 60 day public comment period on whether to ban the importation, sale and advertising of polycarbonate baby bottles which contain bisphenol A."

But the amount of BPA in the plastic of baby bottles is only 5-8 parts per billion.

Yet, it has been found in canned foods at levels as high as 17.9 parts per billion!:

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/05/3...ns.html?ref=rss

"Recent tests showed the presence of BPA in tomato sauce at 18.2 parts per billion and at 17.9 parts per billion in apple juice, according to a report by the Globe and Mail. The study also found trace amounts in apple juice, beer, canned soup and vegetables."

Don't they use epoxy, on the inside of beer cans?

Ever felt like you were being unwittingly marinaded?

Use glass bottles, not cans.
imo, lunk

[Timothy Osman]

Don't they use epoxy, on the inside of beer cans?

Ever felt like you were being unwittingly marinaded?

Use glass bottles, not cans.
imo, lunk

You should really buy Beer in bottles then pour it into a glass before drinking. Less gassy. burp.

[lunk]

http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/60/2/296

"Bisphenol A (BPA) is a monomer in polycarbonate plastics and a constituent of epoxy and polystyrene resins found extensively in food packaging and dental sealants. Human exposure to BPA is significant (Brotons et al., 1995Go; Olea et al., 1996Go), and its estrogenic activity is well established (Dodds and Lawson, 1936Go; Steinmetz et al., 1997Go). The ubiquitous organochlorine pesticide o,p'-DDT is also well documented as weakly estrogenic (Soto et al., 1995Go) and is present in human tissues (Hunter et al., 1997Go)."

BPA is found in Styrofoam, too?

You would think that a pharmaceutical company would contract out their plastic bottle division:

http://www.the-innovation-group.com/ChemPr...sphenol%20A.htm

"*Millions of pounds per year of bisphenol-A (4,4-isopropylidene diphenol, or BPA). All US producers make BPA through an acid-catalyzed condensation reaction of phenol with acetone. All companies have captive phenol and acetone supplies for BPA production and all except SUNOCO have captive BPA requirements for downstream resins.

In 1999, Bayer expanded BPA production at Bayport, Tex., to 350-million-pounds, to serve the company's polycarbonate requirements at the site."

I think I'm getting a headache.

[Timothy Osman]

I don't know what you're worried about Lunk, They're all reputable companies, Bayer's Zoyklon-B was harmless until inhaled.

[grizz]

dental sealants

OMG! You scared me for a minute. But I guess 'dental sealants' and 'denture adhesives' are not the same thing.

I checked the ingredients in my Fixodent and it doesn't have BPA in it. The primary ingredient is 'polymethylvinylether maleic acid calcium-zinc salt'. Sounds harmless enough...

[dMz]

OMG! You scared me for a minute. But I guess 'dental sealants' and 'denture adhesives' are not the same thing.

I checked the ingredients in my Fixodent and it doesn't have BPA in it. The primary ingredient is 'polymethylvinylether maleic acid calcium-zinc salt'. Sounds harmless enough...

Where's Bill? He's our resident chemist, I believe. If that had said "...cadmium-zinc salt" you'd have a pretty effective and highly toxic "battery" in your mouth OF- yikes!

I know that contact lens solution used to have polyvinyl alcohol in it for use inside the eyes...

I've read and theorized that the chemicals in the plastics are likely responsible for the early and pronounced "development" of US girls, in the Britney Spears/Jessica Simpson "mold" in addition to the anomalies in fish populations. Not too easy to argue there, after observing the last 25 years or so.

Has anyone read about the chemicals in common shampoos?

http://www.naturalnews.com/003210.html

http://www.health-report.co.uk/formaldehyde.html

I'm sure that someone else here has done more research on flouride and mercury vaccines than I have, but those don't look good either!

[lunk]

Shampoo...
There is something about the name.

The eye is the membrane with greatest ability for chemical absorption, into the body.

Do they use mercury as a preservative in contact-lens solution?

[Omega892R09]

Has anyone read about the chemicals in common shampoos?

http://www.naturalnews.com/003210.html

http://www.health-report.co.uk/formaldehyde.html

I'm sure that someone else here has done more research on flouride and mercury vaccines than I have, but those don't look good either!

Shampoo hah yes that stuff.

Everytime I see an advertisement on the TV (I do try to miss them) of some vapid eye-candy promoting this stuff I have an urgent desire to throw up. The worst is that one finishes up '...because your worth it'.

Now don't get me started on facial skin rub ins - they should give Rozalex a try. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Rozalex being the brand name of a rather smelly barrier cream used by engineers in engineering workshops, well it was when I used such also used on the way into the hangar before starting work on the cabs (FAA slang for aircraft, the light blues i.e. RAF, for some reason used the rather more effete 'kites' (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/satin.gif) ).

[dMz]

Next item: Teratogens

http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/teratogens.html

And a bit on cancer:

http://www.canceriq.org/causes.html

[lunk]

Teratogens seem to be anything that is suspected of causing cancer.
Strange sort of categorization,
as there are many very different types of cancer.

DDT is on that list of teratogens.

http://junkscience.com/ddtfaq.html

I still think that the bugs
will adapt to any type of pesticide...
eventually.

imo, lunk

[dMz]

I believe that lunk is thinking of "carcinogen."

Teratogens are much more insidious- think of it as a "multi-generational" or "genocidal" cancer, kind of like all that "D"U that DoD dumped on Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=11315

"Teratogen: Any agent that can disturb the development of an embryo or fetus. Teratogens may cause a birth defect in the child. Or a teratogen may halt the pregnancy outright. The classes of teratogens include radiation, maternal infections, chemicals, and drugs."

[lunk]

Thanks,

I stand corrected, they are much more insidious.

http://www.usd.edu/med/som/genetics/curriculum/2DTERAT4.htm

"Teratogenic agents include: infectious agents (rubella, cytomegalovirus, varicella, herpes simplex, toxoplasma, syphilis, etc.); physical agents (ionizing agents, hyperthermia); maternal health factors (diabetes, maternal PKU); environmental chemicals (organic mercury compounds, polychlorinated biphenyl or PCB, herbicides and industrial solvents); and drugs (prescription, over- the-counter, recreational). It may appear as though there are more suspected teratogens than were apparent a generation ago. This may be because there has been an increase in the number of synthetic chemical compounds in use or possibly the clinical recognition of subtle malformations as teratogenic effects. Examples of the latter would be fetal alcohol syndrome, fetal hydantoin syndrome, fetal trimethadione syndrome, fetal warfarin syndrome and smoking associated with low birth weight infants."

But teratogens do seem to cover everything.

Sort of like calling anything that stops your car, an obstacle,
be it a boulder, lightning bolt, traffic light or nail on the road.

imo, lunk

[Omega892R09]

And a bit on cancer:

http://www.canceriq.org/causes.html

Thanks for that one dMole, I may as well go back on the fags (cigarettes) at least then I'll know which one is most likely to get me and it probably won't be any cancer. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

[lunk]

My little spin on cancer,
or any disease...

The human body is like a sponge.

These cumulative toxins build up
over time until the body reacts by
"coming down" with something.

It's good to rinse out the sponge
from time to time.

A fast is a simple but possibly dangerous way
to achieve this.

Throughout history, every land had a time of
abundance and a time of scarcity each year.

We don't have that in the modern world anymore.
Food and whatever's in it, is available 24/7 at the store.

There are also cleansing programs that may
be safer and more pleasant.

imo, lunk

[lunk]

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/docplayer_...ml?id=911913844

Unnecessary plastics additives and human extinction.

[beatles64]

I am skipping to the bottom here, so I hope I haven't missed this

but...

what about Visine?

[lunk]

I am skipping to the bottom here, so I hope I haven't missed this

but...

what about Visine?

Plastic bottle...
The eye the most absorbent external membrane of the body.
I imagine that there must be a powerful preservative used as well.
The reaction, that gets the red out, is a bleaching process, from what I understand.

I wouldn't use anything but pure water,
...in my eyes.
I think they use a saline solution for eye wash in hospitals.

imo, lunk

[beatles64]

I agree....I will admit that the occasional visine use is for the redness relief (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

the thought of anything with a chemical going in the eye is unsettling, so thankfully, one can build a bit of a tolerance for this type of stuff

[lunk]

It's necessary to wear goggles,
when spraying poisonous pesticides or herbicides,
because of this chemical absorption through the eye.

Back to BPA, it appears that they have known since the 1930s about its' estrogen mimicking properties.

The first evidence of the estrogenicity of bisphenol A came from experiments in the 1930s in which it was fed to ovariectomized rats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A

Is this chemical even a necessary ingredient in plastics, paints and cosmetics?

[lunk]

Bisphenol A (BPA) is a plastics chemical invented nearly 120 years ago and currently used in enormous amounts to manufacture hard plastic water bottles and to make epoxy linings of metal food cans, like those for canned infant formula. Although its long-time use in consumer products has come with assurances of its safety from industry, studies conducted over the past 20 years now show it to be not only a ubiquitous pollutant in the human body - it contaminates nearly 93% of the population - but also a potent developmental toxin at very low doses.

http://www.ewg.org/reports/bpatimeline

They have known that this chemical is a potent human developmental toxin for 70 years!
Why would it be used as an ingredient on common everyday things,
we ate or touched or breathed?

This is the intentional poisoning of humans,
for population culling, by the dominant minority,
who only have the respect of the willfully ignorant
and their complicit psychopathic heartless minions.

imo, lunk