Black-boxes Options

[aristo]

Hello at all.
I live in Germany.

First I would like to apologise for my bad one in English.

Already for a long time I discuss with friends and others
this happened from 911. I believe, one share solution is to find on
what happened at the pentagon strike.

I hope, I am with mine contribute here properly. If not, move please.

I found this:

"Early Friday morning, shortly before 4 a.m., Burkhammer and another firefighter,
Brian Moravitz were combing through debris near the impact site. Peering at the
wreckage with their helmet lights, the two spotted an intact seat from the plane's
cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached.
Then they saw two odd-shaped dark boxes, about 1.5 by 2 feet long.
They'd been told the plane's 'black boxes' would in fact be bright orange,
but these were charred black. The boxes had handles on one end and one
was torn open. They cordoned off the area and called for an FBI agent,
who in turn called for someone from the National Transportation Safety Board
(NTSB) who confirmed the find: the black boxes from AA Flight 77."


Source:

My question to the experts here:

Use passengerplanes charred black black-boxes?

They found only one cockpitseat. Where are the other?

A Boeing 757 has more than 200 seats, I think.

"PAVE PAWS"-System

I think, the military guidance knew exactly every second,
where the plane was.
Nevertheless, there was no alarm to evacuate the Pentagon.

Many thanks for answers.

aristo

[rob balsamo]

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/FDR_location_091607.html

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/location_2.html


Welcome to the forum!

[aristo]

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/FDR_location_091607.html

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/location_2.html


Welcome to the forum!

Hello Rob,

many thanks.

What do you think about the coulor of these Black-Boxes?

I have seen (don´t remember where) a Photo inside the Pentagon (?).
The Box on this photo was deep orange.

[Sanders]

Welcome to the forum, aristo. Don't worry about your English, my German is terrible. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

P.S., I don't believe anything anymore - not what color the boxes were, not where they found them - I take everything in with the understanding that much of it is a cover story to propagate the official account. What is important, is that the NTSB released the FDR files and stated, officially, that they came from the flight AA77 black box. We do not know if they really were from flight AA77, but we know that the NTSB, a government agency, says that they were. That is supremely significant.

Thanks for contributing. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

[aristo]

We do not know if they really were from flight AA77, but we know that the NTSB, a government agency, says that they were. That is supremely significant.

Thanks for contributing. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

Hello Sanders,

yes, I think also too.

[jesterarp]

Hi Everyone,

just like to add the following questions;

What makes people believe that just because a seat, that was believed to be from the cockpit, was found near the boxes that it automatically makes the boxes authentic?

Isn't it the case that these Flight Data Recorders (FDRs) are normally housed near the tail of the Boeing 757/767 so finding them close to an intact cockpit seat makes no sense?

What proof is there that this FDR data came from AA77?

I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that Gen Larry Arnold, from NORAD, dispatched a fighter to check out the incident at the Pentagon. Is it the FDR recording of this which the NTSB have fraudulently released as being from AA77. If that is the case then it would explain the high airspeed and the rapid decent from 7000 ft to ground level whilst executing a turn through over 300 degrees, which the radar controllers believed could only have been carried out by a fighter pilot with a lot of experience. It would also explain why the analysis of the altitudes from the data provided came to the conclusion that the "aircraft" ended up 300 feet too high to have hit the light poles as reported and then continued into the 1st/2nd floor of the Pentagon in a near perfect level attitude.

Just one last thought, aren't the engines designed to be able to withstand extremes of temperature from burning aviation fuel so a fire from the exact same aviation fuel would not be able to "vaporize" them as per the official explanation of their disappearance?

Keep up the good work...

Jester

[rob balsamo]

Hi Everyone,

just like to add the following questions;

What makes people believe that just because a seat, that was believed to be from the cockpit, was found near the boxes that it automatically makes the boxes authentic?

Isn't it the case that these Flight Data Recorders (FDRs) are normally housed near the tail of the Boeing 757/767 so finding them close to an intact cockpit seat makes no sense?

What proof is there that this FDR data came from AA77?

Pilots For 9/11 Truth have never claimed the FDR data provided by the NTSB is "authentic". However, if such data being provided by a govt agency tasked to ensure the safety of the traveling public is fake, it is as alarming as it being accurate.


See these articles for more information of location and recovery of the FDR.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/FDR_location_091607.html

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/location_2

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=11066

Welcome to the forum.

[Sanders]

Exactly. This is NTSB supplied information. That's a government agency.