None Of The Screeners At Dulles Airport Remembers Handling Any Of The Alleged Hijackers Options

[lurker]

hello,

I was searching the web for faa's "Executive Summary Chronology of a Multiple Hijacking Crisis, September 11, 2001" which barbara honegger cites as another source for evidence that at 9:32 a violent event occcured at the pentagon.

so far I have not yet found this particular document but I found another document of the 911 commission ("Staff Monograph on the "Four Flights and Civil Aviation Security") dated from september 12, 2005 that heavily references the above document.

searching through the gathered document I found a very interesting piece of information that I did not know before and I would like to share here.

in the footnote section, page 93, footnote #226 they write

a) that they have videotapes showing the alleged hijackers of flight 77 when they entered through the westpoint check point of Dulles airport, 3 of them setting off alarms, 2 of them were even "hand-wanded" AND

b) say that an investigation/interrogation of all 43 screeners who were on duty that day revealed, that NONE of them was able to remember having handled ANY of the passengers identified as selectees.

I find that very odd.

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This post has been edited by lurker: May 19 2010, 10:03 AM

[amazed!]

I don't find it particularly odd. Assuming the statements of the screeners are true and accurate, it simply suggests that the reference videos were generated "evidence" to support the OCT. Created out of whole cloth, it fits in with the other staged events.

It's second hand information, but I think reliable, that at Newark that morning, on at least one concourse, there were NO screeners at the checkpoint. That, from an airline pilot who had been flying out of EWR that month.

Staged events, and feeding pablum to the MSM.

[dMz]

hello,

I was searching the web for faa's "Executive Summary Chronology of a Multiple Hijacking Crisis, September 11, 2001" which barbara honegger cites as another source for evidence that at 9:32 a violent event occcured at the pentagon.

so far I have not yet found this particular document ...

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB165/faa5.pdf

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB165/index.htm

[TheSurgeon]

That the screeners did not recognize anything out of the ordinary is understandable. amazed! hit the nail on the head. The video was generated evidence. The video is a fake. There is a fundamental flaw in the video:

The video camera would have been located at the south side of the terminal, facing north. The terminal runs east - west, with the entrance on the north side. The video clearly shows shadows of people walking in the terminal, or approaching security. The shadows go north to south (or towards the camera), which would have the sun in the north. That is not possible. I have verified this with sun calculation software, photos taken at various dates and times, etc. Also, I know Dulles airport quite well -- I've been there many times.

Also, the hijackers passed through security at sunrise and shortly after sunrise. If there were any shadows, the would be from east to west (or right to left from the camera perspective).

Dulles has very shiny floors which can create some very sharp reflections, but the video shows very distinct shadows.

The video is a fake.

I've read some Memorandums for the Record from the 9/11 Commission concerning the FBI investigation at Dulles -- but, cannot find them now. Anybody have additional information?

I don't find it particularly odd. Assuming the statements of the screeners are true and accurate, it simply suggests that the reference videos were generated "evidence" to support the OCT. Created out of whole cloth, it fits in with the other staged events.

.....

Staged events, and feeding pablum to the MSM.

[amazed!]

Welcome, Surgeon. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

I think I read about a similar analysis as yours regarding the videos of the "hijackers" at the airport in Maine. By analyzing shadows and camera locations, comparing them to the time they were supposedly taken, it does not take much analysis to show the videos to be faked.

[onesliceshort]

IF they were the "Flight 77 hijackers", why can't we see the "Flight 77 passengers" passing through these terminals?
Or what was the excuse for not showing them?

As a matter of fact were any passengers caught on video anywhere for all four flights?
Sorry, I'm green on this subject if it has already been covered.

[paranoia]

sorry oss, i dont have an official answer - though im pretty sure i dont recall having EVER seen ANY airport footage of ANY of the alleged passengers... but its a point worth exploring-

take someone like barbara olson for example, who had a very recognizable face, and who was a celebrity in her own right (thanks to her being funded by richard mellon scaife in his anti-clinton crusades), how come no footage of her has been released? one would think that because of her fame the msm media would have obtained and released some stills of her at the airport (dulles) if they actually had any. regardless of captured security cam footage, she was famous enough that some random tourist or anti-clintonite at the airport should have definitely recognized her and might have even asked for her autograph or requested to take a picture with her. at the very least someone would (should) have noted her presence - if she had actually been there. so you would think that by now at least one random person who was there at the airport that day would have come forth on the internet or elsewhere to name-drop* and say "yeah, i personally saw barbara olson at the airport on 9/11! i cant believe those were her last moments alive! life is so random, weird, and sad that way...", or something along those lines. but to date no one has come forth saying they saw mrs.olson at dulles on 9/11. i dont know about the rest of the alleged passengers, but with olson in particulr there is definitely room for doubt about wether or not she was ever at dulles, nevermind having actually boarded a plane that departed from there on 9/11.



no mentions of anyone having seen barbara at dulles, sample search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...tart=0&sa=N

examples of celeb sightings at dulles:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...q=&gs_rfai=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...q=&gs_rfai=


random celeb sightings/encounters:
http://www.yelp.com/topic/new-york-weirdes...hile-hangin-out


*for referrence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name-dropping
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...=name%20dropper

[amazed!]

An interesting point gentlemen!

[onesliceshort]

Cheers P.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLEqjpHVPhM

Are these airport terminal videos available under the FOIA?

There are 3 excerpts shown in the Dulles terminal video at 07:15 through to 07:35.
The plane was allegedly boarded at 07:50.

Where was the queue of passengers? It allegedly took the "hijackers" a few minutes to check in and pass through security and there was nobody from that same flight trying to board at the time? No stragglers?
Nobody else within that last half hour before boarding?

How do we demand the rest of the footage?

I know for a fact that if it were a family member of mine, I would want to see my loved ones last moments, no matter how obscure or painful. That is what i don't get. At all.

Has anybody related to these people actually asked to see this footage?

I'm not pointing an accusatory finger but trying to understand the logic behind the lack of requests that I know of for a last glimpse of these people while they were still alive.

[richard cranium]

After watching that you tube video I couln't help but wonder about something I might have forgotten the details about. Didn't I read somewhere a long time ago that none of the hijackers were listed on the passenger lists of the flights? If so, has it ever been determined if they used an alias? I guess if this video and everything else on that day could be lied about, so could ( and probably so) the passeneger list. You know, everytime I look at things concerning this terrible day ( even after all these years ) it just NEVER adds up. Everytime I hear the "official" version I find myself muttering "bullshit,bullshit,bullshit". How can anyone with any type of common sense not feel the same way?


rc

[amazed!]

According to the official story, the passenger loads were very light indeed, way less than half full. And that could be possibly used to explain the few bodies on the videos mentioned here.

And I can remember hearing the story somewhere early on that "the bad guys" had reserved a bunch of seats, or bought blocks of seats, something like that. In what might have been an effort to justify the light pax load.

For 4 flights, I think the total body count was about 250.

It's a bullshit story from start to finish.

This post has been edited by amazed!: Jul 9 2010, 11:24 PM

[onesliceshort]

After watching that you tube video I couln't help but wonder about something I might have forgotten the details about. Didn't I read somewhere a long time ago that none of the hijackers were listed on the passenger lists of the flights? If so, has it ever been determined if they used an alias? I guess if this video and everything else on that day could be lied about, so could ( and probably so) the passeneger list. You know, everytime I look at things concerning this terrible day ( even after all these years ) it just NEVER adds up. Everytime I hear the "official" version I find myself muttering "bullshit,bullshit,bullshit". How can anyone with any type of common sense not feel the same way?


rc

I think that they were not on the casualties list.
What I found hard to believe (among all of the bs) was that when the "hijackers" allegedly went through that terminal in three different shots, no other passengers were recorded. As usual we are left with high improbability statistics and nothing concrete.

Even if as Amazed says that there were low numbers on those flights, it goes back to paranoia's post about the staff ot other people at the terminal not noticing a high profile personality like Barbara Olson.

But at least we know that they have no excuse when that footage is demanded in its entirity.

[lurker]

thank you dmole for providing the links to the files I was looking for!

strangely I was not notified by the automatic thread-response scheme that someone actually answered my posting, so let me say I am sorry for the delay ...

[TheSurgeon]

Link for the Dulles Security Video


Dulles Security Video - Government Exhibit

Look for NT00211

Note that the first part of the video is blank.

[woody]

I've read some Memorandums for the Record from the 9/11 Commission concerning the FBI investigation at Dulles -- but, cannot find them now. Anybody have additional information?

Here are plenty of FBi interviews with checkpoint screeners etc. - for all four flights. I didn't check the Dulles interviews, but can promise that the Logan interviews are veeeeery interesting.

http://www.911myths.com/images/d/d4/Team7_...ntScreeners.pdf

http://www.911myths.com/images/f/fd/Team7_...AndCheck-In.pdf

You might find more stuff here. I recommend the sections of Team 7 & 8.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/9-11_Com...ecords#Box_DH.1

[onesliceshort]

Here are plenty of FBi interviews with checkpoint screeners etc. - for all four flights. I didn't check the Dulles interviews, but can promise that the Logan interviews are veeeeery interesting.

http://www.911myths.com/images/d/d4/Team7_...ntScreeners.pdf

http://www.911myths.com/images/f/fd/Team7_...AndCheck-In.pdf

You might find more stuff here. I recommend the sections of Team 7 & 8.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/9-11_Com...ecords#Box_DH.1

Cheers Woody! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

Never saw these before.

Just started browsing through the "Team 7" files and found this

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"Dana Turner" said that her duties were to inspect whether everything was clean and in "working order" pre-flights.
She could possibly answer the question as to whether there were seatphones on Flight 77?

This post has been edited by onesliceshort: Aug 14 2010, 07:13 PM

[onesliceshort]

Also found this which is relevant to this thread on Brenda Brown.
The interview was carried out just 8 days after 9/11 on 19th

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She was checking First Class, Platinum and Gold Card members and doesn't recall any Arab sounding names nor does she mention Barbara Olson (though I wish I could understand just how famous Ms Olson was at that time)

Look at the first class section

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Funny enough she said she recalled the name Yamnicky but not because he wore a patch over his eye.

(IMG:http://i37.tinypic.com/34r6pg2.jpg)

This was the fella that his family claimed didn't "talk about his work".
At the time he was working for Veridian

Not pointing any fingers but Jesus...

This post has been edited by onesliceshort: Aug 14 2010, 10:16 PM

[Sanders]

Great thread! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

When you dive into the recesses of the official 9/11 story with a magnifying glass, it always falls apart.

[Skeptik]

A question for our aeronautical experts. If in flight phones were fitted to the flight concerned, would they have been fitted in first and economy or just first class?

[albertchampion]

in my experience, for every seat, just first.

after first, the flightphone[s] was located by the lower class loos.

and you had to stand there to initiate, conduct the call. with your cc in your hand. and ducking anyone coming in and out of the loos.

but i could be wrong. my recollections are based on my carrier of choice, continental.