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Sanders here. OK, I think maybe I'm just about drunk enough to write a topic intro for Iraq. Normally, I wouldn't touch it, I'd just get so upset. But I have probably 10 shots of JD and a bottle (actually no, me and my girlfriend shared a bottle and then went another decanter) of Cabernet Sauvignon - it was Australian I think, very good. So, I shouldn't be that drunk - oops, I forgot about all those tequila shots. Oh well - anyway, I think maybe, just maybe, I'm drunk enough to broach this subject.

I'd like to buy 10 shots apiece for all the Iraqis. And a bottle of whatever Cabernet I had tonight. They deserve it. What a curse, to live on top of all that oil, and next to Israel. At some point, in come the British, then in come the Americans.

People say, it's the oil - the war is about the oil. I'm not so sure about that - Iran next door, Israel on the other side - I think, because Hussein was an evil torturing jerk, that it was just the easiest way to get the foot in the door. Now, WWI, now, THAT was probably fought over Iraqi oil.

WWI?? You mean, Gulf War I, right?? No, I mean WWI. Several things were happening at the beginning of the century that spelled doom for the Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites that live in what is now Iraq. The industrial revolution, along with J. D. Rockfeller's rise to power in the US fueled by loans from the (Rothschild owned) National Bank of Cleveland; the discovery of oil in the Middle East; and a movement within the British government driven by those same bankers (that were investing in Rockefeller's Standard Oil) to expel Turkey from Persia and to secure property for a Jewish state. THAT's why WWI was fought.

After the war began, a man by the name of T. E. Lawrence who worked for British Intelligence, better known as Lawence of Arabia, convinced the Arab tribes there to help the British throw out the Ottomans (Turks), under who's thumb the Arabs had been for 400 years. In return for their help the British promised them independence.

They lied. After the war, Britain and France drew "straight lines in the sand" and carved up the Middle East like they were carving a cake. This was accomplished as per what's referred to the Picot-Sikes agreement if you want to check it out. T. E. Lawrence was devastated by the way the British government back-stabbed the Arab leaders he had befriended on their behalf, and the way he was used.

The British could have called the new states they created 'colonies', which is what they were, but maybe because they felt guilty about the way they stole and lied to get control of the land, they decided to call them "mandates". I have no idea what a mandate is ... I think that was the point. The British and French ignored the rifts between sects and tribes when they drew up who got what of course. What is now Iraq was half Sunni, half Shi'ia and half Kurd. (One too many halves there I think!?)

I'm a little fuzzy on what happened there over the next 50 years, and I'm also a little fuzzy from all that bourbon and wine and tequila, so I'll jump ahead to the Reagan administration, who found a dependable ally in an Iraqi leader by the name of Saddam Hussein. Hussein was fighting a war with Iran, and Reagan and his neocon administration didn't like the Iranians very much, so Reagan sent a special envoy by the name of Donald Rumsfeld to meet him. They hit it off and the US started arranging for shipments to help their new friend - arms, helicopters, surveillance equipment, and a host of unattenuated biological agents such as anthrax and botulism - 74 shipments, so that Saddam could start making some nasty weapons. This is not rumor by the way, it's all in a Senate Investigating Committe report from 1992.

The Iraqis got through 400 years of Turkish rule, they somehow won independence from the British, who promised them as much in the first place, and they survived Saddam Hussein. I'm not quite sure if they'll ever be free of U.S. occupation though...

Anyway, Iraq !!!
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Maliki Government Paves the Way for Permanent US Bases in Iraq
@ Alternet
OP by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report on November 26, 2007
This was the plan all along.
[quote]...Talk of permanent bases was considered impolite for the political mainstream... When congressional Dems started taking the matter seriously, congressional Republicans quickly shut down any policy proposals that might limit a permanent U.S. presence in Iraq.

With that in mind, today's news is not at all encouraging.

Iraq's government, seeking protection against foreign threats and internal coups, will offer the U.S. a long-term troop presence in Iraq in return for U.S. security guarantees as part of a strategic partnership, two Iraqi officials said Monday...[/quote]http://alternet.org/blogs/peek/68928/

Iraq draws up plans for privatisation gold rush
By Helen Power
Sunday Telegraph, April 7 2007
[quote]The Iraqi government has begun preparing the groundwork for what could be one of the biggest privatisations of state-owned assets.

The Sunday Telegraph has learned that officials from the government have recently held talks with banking and legal advisers in London. City sources said Iraq's minister for industry, Fawzi Hariri, was looking to appoint advisers to draw up a memorandum of understanding to sell off the country's non-oil assets, ranging from petrochemical plants to construction companies, hotels and airlines, as early as this month...[/quote] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtm...1/cniraq101.xml

Documents show US had propaganda campaign plan two months before invasion
by Nick Juliano
Raw Story, May 9 2007
[quote]Months before the US invaded Iraq, Pentagon planners were developing an elaborate propaganda campaign to ensure US government-"approved" information was broadcast to the Iraqi public, according to a previously classified White Paper released Tuesday by the independent National Security Archives.[/quote] http://rawstory.com/news/2007/White_Paper_...paign_0509.html

Future of Iraq: The spoils of war
How the West will make a killing on Iraqi oil riches

By Danny Fortson, Andrew Murray-Watson and Tim Webb
The Independent, 07 January 2007
courtesy, The DECIDER
[quote]Iraq's massive oil reserves, the third-largest in the world, are about to be thrown open for large-scale exploitation ... The US government has been involved in drawing up the law, a draft of which has been seen by The Independent on Sunday. It would give big oil companies such as BP, Shell and Exxon 30-year contracts to extract Iraqi crude and allow the first large-scale operation of foreign oil interests in the country since the industry was nationalised in 1972.[/quote] http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle...icle2132569.ece

Billions in oil missing in Iraq, US study finds
RAW STORY, May 11, 2007
[quote]"Between 100,000 and 300,000 barrels a day of Iraq's declared oil production over the past four years is unaccounted for and could have been siphoned off through corruption or smuggling, according to a draft American government report...[/quote] http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Billions_in_..._Iraq_0511.html

Count your victims!
by Adam Robertson
@Aljazeera.com, March 28, 2007
[quote]When the controversial survey carried out by the John Hopkins School of Public Health was first published in the medical journal the Lancet, last October, suggesting that over 650,000 Iraqis have died since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, both the British and United States governments rejected its findings, alleging that the figure is exaggerated.... Lately, the BBC reported that the British government’s own scientists advised ministers that the Johns Hopkins study was accurate and reliabl[/quote] http://aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=12993

An illegal war
by V. Sridhar
Frontline (India), April 2003 issue
courtesy, The DECIDER
[quote]The report of a United Nations-affiliated human rights organisation makes it clear that the United States and its allies are guilty of `the supreme international crime' - an unlawful act of aggression against a sovereign country.[/quote]http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2007/sto...11004802400.htm

Managing Escalation: Negroponte and Bush's New Iraq Team
by Dahr Jamail
Foreign Policy In Focus, January 8 2007
[quote]Under the "Salvador Option," Negroponte had assistance from his colleague from his days in Central America during the 1980's, Ret. Col James Steele. Steel, whose title in Baghdad was Counselor for Iraqi Security Forces supervised the selection and training of members of the Badr Organization and Mehdi Army, the two largest Shia militias in Iraq, in order to target the leadership and support networks of a primarily Sunni resistance.

Planned or not, these death squads promptly spiraled out of control to become the leading cause of death in Iraq. Intentional or not, the scores of tortured, mutilated bodies which turn up on the streets of Baghdad each day are generated by the death squads whose impetus was John Negroponte. And it is this U.S.-backed sectarian violence which largely led to the hell-disaster that Iraq is today.[/quote] http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/3877

U.S.-tailored Iraqi Oil Alarm for Producers, Consumers
by Nicola Nasser
MMM, January 22 2007
[quote]After listening to the monotonous and incredible U.S. lies for four years about “we are not there for Iraq's oil,” the oil truth is now unfolding. Without a decisive military victory, the U.S. occupation of Iraq seems to be about to grab its oil prize by establishing a new sharing arrangement between a major national producer and the multi-national giants, an arrangement that Washington plans to set as the model to be followed both by the oil-rich region and the world at large.[/quote] http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/40100

The White House Can't Put Out the Middle East Fires it Ignited
by Toronto Sun columnist Eric Margolis
December 04, 2006
[quote]But Iraq’s hapless `prime minister,’ Nuri al-Maliki, presides only over Baghdad’s US-protected Green Zone. The US controls what pass for Iraq’s police and armed forces. How can Bush expect a powerless figurehead to do what the mighty US cannot?...

Iraq has no real government or army. What western reporters and Pentagon spinners term the Iraqi Army is really a collection of Shia militias, death squads and mercenaries, many former convicts. The US occupation’s extensive use of Shia death squads to fight the Sunni resistance has played a key role in igniting Iraq’s current sectarian bloodbath. This little-known story is a major scandal. [/quote] http://www.ericmargolis.com/archives/2006/...ite_house_1.php

The Brutal Irony of Iraq
by Rami Khouri
Middle East Online
2006-11-09, Last Updated 2006-11-09
[quote]The important issues related to the trial and conviction of Saddam Hussein are neither the technicalities of the trial's fairness and legitimacy (as critics say) nor the power of the example of removing an Arab dictator and holding him accountable for his crimes (as supports say). The core issue is about the juxtaposition of Western militarism and Arab dictatorships as twin plagues on the modern Arab world[/quote] courtesy batmanchester

Bush's Baghdad Palace
by Nicholas von Hoffman
The Nation, June 20, 2006
[quote]Among the many secrets the American government cannot keep, one of its biggest (104 acres) and most expensive ($592 million) is the American Embassy being built in Baghdad. Surrounded by fifteen-foot-thick walls, almost as large as the Vatican on a scale comparable to the Mall of America...[/quote] http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060703/howl

If the U.S. is ultimately leaving Iraq, why is the military building 'permanent' bases?
Friends Committee on National Legislation
[quote]As of mid-2005, the U.S. military had 106 forward operating bases in Iraq, including what the Pentagon calls 14 "enduring" bases (twelve of which are located on the map)...[/quote] http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

The War They Wanted, the Lies They Needed
by Craig Unger
Vanity Fair, 06 June 2006
Thoroughly investigated (at great risk to Unger probably), Vanity Fair article about the Niger yellow cake affair and WMD lies. Excellent.

Embedded Photographer: "I Saw Marines Kill Civilians"
by Michel Guerrin
for Le Monde
Translated for CounterPunch by Norman Maderasz
April 16 2003
[quote]Their motto is 'Search and Kill'. The 'Kilo' unit is nicknamed 'Killer Kilo'. The words 'Carnivore' or 'Blind Killer' are painted on their tanks...

Three not-very-accurate warning shots were fired. The shots were supposed to make the van stop. The van kept on driving, made a U-turn, took shelter and then returned slowly. The Marines opened fire. All hell broke loose. They were firing all over the place. You could hear 'Stop firing' being shouted. The silence that set in was overwhelming. Two men and a woman had just been riddled with bullets. So this was the enemy, the threat.

A second vehicle drove up. The same scenario was repeated. Its passengers were killed on the spot. A grandfather was walking slowly with a cane on the sidewalk. They killed him too (SEE PHOTO IN LE MONDE). As with the old man, the Marines fired on a SUV driving along the river bank that was getting too close to them. Riddled with bullets, the vehicle rolled over. Two women and a child got out, miraculously still alive. They sought refuge in the wreckage. A few seconds later, it flew into bits as a tank lobbed a terse shot into it.[/quote] http://www.prisonplanet.com/i_saw_marines_..._civilians.html

The Grand Ayatollah Behind the Curtain
by Colbert I. King
Washington Post
November 2, 2006
[quote]How is it possible that leaders of the world’s most powerful nation - a country that has generously sent 140,000 of its finest sons and daughters to fight, suffer and die to free Iraq from the Ba’athist grip - have not met the Iraqi leader with the most to gain from Hussein’s defeat?
...It’s because Al-Sistani has designated himself off-limits to Americans...[/quote] http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Trut...=0#entry5038291

Marine enters plea in case of killed Iraqi civilian
Associated Press/CNN, November 6, 2006
[quote]Three members of Jackson's unit went into the village of Hamdaniya on April 26 and returned with a prisoner who was then shot by the side of a road on the orders of squad leader Sgt. Lawrence G. Hutchins, Jackson said.[/quote] courtesy, batmanchester

Interior minister charges 57 police with torture
Hundreds may have been brutalized...
Associated Press/MSNBC, Nov. 7, 2006
courtesy, batmanchester

Iraq's death squads:
On the brink of civil war
by Andrew Buncombe and Patrick Cockburn
The Independent, 26 February 2006
[quote]Most of the corpses in Baghdad's mortuary show signs of torture and execution. And the Interior Ministry is being blamed. [/quote]Not new (Feb.2006), but enlightening on the roots of sectarian violence
courtesy lederhosn

The Birth of Iraq: 1916-1921
by Garrett Johnson
Bits of News, 11 September 2006
[quote]One of the first and largest rebel groups in Iraq is called the 1920 Revolution Brigades. If you know what the "1920" refers to then you are already in a very select minority of Americans. If you know the reasons for the 1920 Revolution, how long it lasted, and how it ended then you are in an extremely tiny minority that doesn't need to read this diary any further.

However, if you couldn't answer those questions then you should sit back, relax, and prepare to get a brief, glimpse at The Birth Of Iraq...[/quote] http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/3855/2/

The U.S. pre-Gulf War Arming of Saddam Hussein

Rumsfeld helped sell anthrax and bubonic plague to Saddam
By Tim Reid
Originally published @ TimesOnLine, December 31, 2002
reproduced @ Indy Media Center
[quote]DONALD RUMSFELD, the US Defence Secretary and [currently] one of the most strident critics of Saddam Hussein, met the Iraqi President in 1983 to ease the way for US companies to sell Baghdad biological and chemical weapons components, including anthrax and bubonic plague cultures, according to newly declassified US Government documents.[/quote] http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/44961/index.php

The Reagan-Saddam Connection:
"We Create These Monsters And When It's Not Convenient We Cover Them Up"
Democracy Now, June 9th, 2004
Interview between Alan Friedman & Amy Goodman
[quote]ALAN FRIEDMAN:Rumsfeld in his jovial way, slapped Saddam on [the back] and said, great to do business with Iraq, our friend. And the same people used the same funds to support Osama bin Laden in the late 1970's and early 1980's in Afghanistan to fight the Soviet Union. We create these monsters and then when's not convenient...

AMY GOODMAN: Rumsfeld brought from Saddam Hussein golden cowboy spurs and pistols.[/quote] http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/09/1445208

U.S. Chemical and Biological Exports to Iraq
and Their Possible Impact on the Health Consequences of the Persian Gulf War

Committee Staff Report No. 3: Chemical Warfare Agent Identification, Chemical Injuries, and Other Findings.
U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
James J Tuite, III, Principal Investigator

Did the United States supply Iraq materials to make weapons?
Quotes from officials, articles and documents

Saddam Key in Early CIA Plot
Newsmax Wires, April 11 2003
[quote]While many have thought that Saddam first became involved with U.S. intelligence agencies at the start of the September 1980 Iran-Iraq war, his first contacts with U.S. officials date back to 1959, when he was part of a CIA-authorized six-man squad tasked with assassinating then Iraqi Prime Minister Gen. Abd al-Karim Qasim.[/quote] http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2...10/205859.shtml
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Posts and Threads

Us Soldiers Shoot Unarmed Civilians
Thread started by MichaelMR, May 16 2007
Several embedded videos in this thread. Very disturbing

The Business Of War:
Iraq's Mercenary King, Vanity Fair April 2007

thread started by barney_rebel
w/ link to the article

Lt. Ehren Watada Court Martial
Ends in mistrial

Thread started by Cary
incredible speech by Lt. Watada just before his court martial (video embedded)

Going it Alone in Iraq
Excerpt from "Noble Lies"
Post by Sanders
“An avaricious, premeditated, unprovoked war against a foe who posed no immediate threat”.

An anonymous senior CIA official from the book
‘Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terrorism’
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Other Resources


The Bases are Loaded
Will the U.S. ever leave Iraq? Official policy promises an eventual departure, while warning of the dire consequences of a "premature" withdrawal. But while Washington equivocates, facts on the ground tell another story. Independent journalist Dahr Jamail, and author Chalmers Johnson, are discovering that military bases in Iraq are being consolidated from over a hundred to a handful of "megabases" with lavish amenities.

Thanks for the memories

Short flash presentation on the US relationship with Saddam Hussein.

Robert Newman's History of Oil

Stand up routine by Robert Newman that gets at the roots of the Iraq war - includes a sideways glance at 100 years of Middle East history, a look at the relationship between the petro-dollar and the current mess, and even a "who's-on-first" play on the names of Chinese leaders ("You and Hu's army!??" Whahahah). Brilliant!

George Galloway: Why we need an enquiry
Former British parliament member George Galloway interviewed on Sky News
must see

George Galloway: Speech in Wisconsin
Galloway talks about the Middle East and the Iraq war

Fallujah Massacre
@ indymedia
- journalists have died (it seems) trying to get this kind of stuff out of Iraq

Bush's legacy: The president who cried wolf
Olbermann: Bush's strategy fails because it depends on his credibility
Keith Olberman at his best - 11 Jan 2007, regarding Bush speech, the "surge", and expanding the war into Iran & Syria.

Iraq: The Hidden War
Channel 4 Investigates

How our news is sanatized to prevent the destruction and suffering created by the U.S. occupation of Iraq from entering our reality.
warning: disturbing footage


Image Gallery
Many galleries. Not for the feint of heart.


Complete Set of Downing Street Documents
Afterdowningstreet.org web site with links

Documents: Pre-Gulf War Shipments of Biological Agents, Military & "Dual Use" Equipment

U.S. Exports of Biological Materials to Iraq
Hearing before the Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs
One Hundred Third Congress
Excerpts (for full text see next link below)

The Riegle Report
U.S. Chemical and Biological Warfare-Related Dual Use Exports to Iraq and their Possible Impact on the Health Consequences of the Gulf War
Hearing before the Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs
The Riegle Report
A Report of Chairman Donald W. Riegle, Jr. and Ranking Member Alfonse M. D'Amato of the Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs with Respect to Export Administration
United States Senate, 103d Congress, 2d Session
May 25, 1994

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See Also:

The Perennial Battle For Iraq's Oil,
The Versailles Thesis,
Iraq: Blame it on Lawrence's Bosses,
T.E. Lawrence and the Arab Cause at the Paris Peace Conference


Baghdad Burning
A blog by a 28 year old Iraqi girl.
Is this whole debacle the fine line between terrorism and protecting ones nation? If it’s a militia, insurgent or military resistance- then it’s terrorism (unless of course the militia, insurgent(s) and/or resistance are being funded exclusively by the CIA). If it’s the Israeli, American or British army, then it’s a pre-emptive strike, or a ‘war on terror’. No matter the loss of hundreds of innocent lives. No matter the children who died last night- they’re only Arabs, after all, right? Right?
courtesy, Guinan
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