JDX Challenge For JREFers |
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JDX Challenge For JREFers |
 Sep 22 2006, 02:19 PM
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It seems the JREFer's dont want to post this on their site and debate the facts. Mainly because it shows how Billzilla Calculations have blown up in his face working back from the impact hole.
I have asked many the govt loyalist site'ers to post this on their site and they refuse. I wonder why... hmmm... Alternate Analysis working back from impact hole Final Draft: New Elevations/Calculations from the USGS (IMG:http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myphotos1960/Alternateanalysis.jpg) Pole 1 - 43'MSL ground elevation + 31.5 pole impact height = 74.5 MSL Total height above sea level. Pole 1 aircraft height - 87'+38'ground elevation of pentagon+10.38' imapct hole height = 135.38 MSL. Aircraft was 60.88 feet above Pole #1. (not sure of exact reported impact height so i'll use the full 40' for pole length) Pole 2 - 43'+ 40' = 83' MSL Pole Height Pole 2 Aircraft Height - 74' + 48.38 = 122.38 MSL Aircraft was 39.38' above pole #2 Pole 3 - 42'+ 40 = 82' MSL pole height Pole 3 Aircraft Height - 60' + 50.38 = 110.38 MSL Aircraft was 28.38' above Pole #3 Pole 4 - 42' + 40 = 82' MSL Pole 4 Aircraft Height - 50' + 50.38 = 100.38 MSL Aircraft was 18.38' above Pole # 4 Pole 5 - 41' + 40 = 81' MSL Pole 5 Aircraft Height - 39' + 50.38 = 89.38 Aircraft was 8.38' above Pole #5 Numbers in black bold above represent the height above impact hole at pentagon based on descent rate of 66 ft/sec and distance from impact hole at pentagon to pole with a forward speed of 784 ft/sec. To draw your own line.. go here... USGS Seamless Data Distribution As a reminder, the above an alternate analysis based on working back from the pentagon impact hole. For a more accurate Aircraft height, please visit here for the Flight Data Recorder analysis mid page. http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html |
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Sep 22 2006, 02:39 PM
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All/Any the govt loyalist site'ers are welcome to sign up here for this debate. Once one instance of name calling/ridicule/attempts at character assassination is used.. you're gone.
Once this thread gets off topic due to "You're not a pilot JDX".. you're gone. Either debate the facts above.. or dont post. Deal? |
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Sep 25 2006, 09:25 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 9,266 Joined: 13-August 06 Member No.: 1 |
I see my the govt loyalist site fan club still refuses to debate the facts...
lol.. now they think i take pictures off the net to pose as me.. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laughing1.gif) And we are the conspiracy nuts... lol... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Apathoid.. we just got 3 more pilots.. Pan Am retired.. Bowman of course.. and another from American. I think we're up to over 250,000 hours total combined flight time.,.. growing rapidly.. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Be sure to take the facts above in the original post over to the govt loyalist site now.. (but i know you wont.. you cant debate facts obviously). Did anyone tell Bill yet how he has screwed up royally on his calculations working back from the impact hole? Im not surprised he is on your side.. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Oct 1 2006, 07:14 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 9,266 Joined: 13-August 06 Member No.: 1 |
[crickets chirping]
I guess JREFers cant hold an intellectual debate without name calling. Seems no one wants to debate this.... Im not surprised.. it makes Billzilla look like he doesnt know what he's doing. |
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Oct 16 2006, 09:21 PM
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ITacHI^ - The Truth Will Set You Free. Group: Valued Member Posts: 707 Joined: 15-October 06 From: Sittard Member No.: 74 |
*almost falling asleep*
*with a mexican voice*"lets get out of here amigo, looks like they aren't in for the challange" IT (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif) |
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Oct 17 2006, 05:36 AM
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Group: Valued Member Posts: 405 Joined: 15-October 06 From: Outside the sheep pen. Member No.: 66 |
The JREFers have Sylvia Browne, we have the JREFers. It is laughable that they run away as soon as they are proven wrong. The Randi Education system must be working eh? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 17 2006, 09:02 AM
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Group: Valued Member Posts: 1,421 Joined: 28-August 06 From: Virginia, USA Member No.: 19 |
Every time I read the word "Randi", Austin Powers starts to run around in my head
(IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Oct 17 2006, 09:14 AM
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Group: Valued Member Posts: 405 Joined: 15-October 06 From: Outside the sheep pen. Member No.: 66 |
QUOTE (UnderTow @ Oct 17 2006, 01:02 PM) Every time I read the word "Randi", Austin Powers starts to run around in my head (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) And he's a 'member' too (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Oct 17 2006, 02:37 PM
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Group: Guests Posts: 29 Joined: 17-October 06 Member No.: 98 |
I'm no expert on this but "Google earth" can't be used for accurate information of this type, can it?
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Oct 17 2006, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE (Calcas @ Oct 17 2006, 02:37 PM) I'm no expert on this but "Google earth" can't be used for accurate information of this type, can it? Where does it say Google Earth? Elevations are from the USGS. However, i also cross checked the area with Jeppessen Airway Manual Airport diagrams and did find it to be within +/- 5 feet of Google Earth. The USGS is more accurate. |
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Oct 17 2006, 05:16 PM
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Group: Guests Posts: 29 Joined: 17-October 06 Member No.: 98 |
Well, the picture clearly says USGS overlay on Google Earth...
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Oct 17 2006, 05:25 PM
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Group: Admin Posts: 9,266 Joined: 13-August 06 Member No.: 1 |
Yes.. i stretched the Google Earth clip to match the elevation graph above for the selected area on USGS.
Was done for illustration purpose based on USGS elevation. |
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