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Nist Wtc7 Press Release Thurs. Aug. 21, NIST NCSTAR 1-9 & 1A

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post Aug 19 2008, 01:02 PM
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FWIW, there is a press release and webcast scheduled for 11-noon EDT on Thurs. Aug. 21, 2008.

"The draft WTC 7 investigation report released at the briefing will be open for public comment through noon Eastern Daylight Time on Sept. 15, 2008."

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/calmed/wtc_081808.html

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http://wtc.nist.gov/
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post Aug 19 2008, 02:00 PM
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It will be interesting to see, just for the spectacle. laughing1.gif
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"11-noon EDT on Thurs. Aug. 19, 2008."


Today, Tuesday the 19th or Thursday the 21st?
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post Aug 19 2008, 02:16 PM
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Sorry about that (too many numbers go through my head). wink.gif

Thursday of this week, the 21st. The NIST announcements are linked above for the full scoop.
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post Aug 20 2008, 04:56 AM
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They are already saying it collapsed due to fire, in the final report. They will be sticking to their lies. Funny how the word 'probable' is being used to explain collapse, but brainwashed fools will take it as fact, when the fact will be, it is nowhere near 'fact'.
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post Aug 21 2008, 02:49 AM
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I'm going to "scoop" NIST's press release later this morning, but I just found this in my reading.

http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1-3.pdf [p. xliv or 46 of 184 in PDF]

"E.6 STRUCTURAL STEEL IN WTC 7

No steel was recovered from WTC 7;..."

[ UTTER and COMPLETE speculation- 'Nuff said?]
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QUOTE (dMole @ Aug 21 2008, 07:49 AM) *
I'm going to "scoop" NIST's press release later this morning, but I just found this in my reading.

http://wtc.nist.gov/NISTNCSTAR1-3.pdf [p. xliv or 46 of 184 in PDF]

"E.6 STRUCTURAL STEEL IN WTC 7

No steel was recovered from WTC 7;..."

[ UTTER and COMPLETE speculation- 'Nuff said?]



I must admit, I find it very odd that the disclaimer seems to indicate that what is below that, is purely made up, or am I reading in between the lines, too much?. I realise the NIST is made up anyway, but to say so itself is one thing, and also, to say that no use can be made of the report from a legal standpoint is corrupt.

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post Aug 21 2008, 10:55 AM
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This press release should be starting in about 5 minutes at:

http://wtc.nist.gov/

Download of slides PDF should be at:

http://event.on24.com/event/11/73/59/rt/1/...08_final_v2.pdf

Closed captioned link should be at:
http://event.on24.com/clients/default/main...4/dynMain.html#
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post Aug 21 2008, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE (dMole @ Aug 19 2008, 01:55 PM) *
This press release should be starting in about 5 minutes at:

http://wtc.nist.gov/

Download of slides PDF should be at:

http://event.on24.com/event/11/73/59/rt/1/...08_final_v2.pdf

Come on Dorothy we are off to see the wizard the wonderful Wizard of Oz.

and what is this I see:

QUOTE
NIST WTC 7 Investigation Finds Building Fires Caused Collapse
Report and Recommendations for Improving Building Safety Released for Comment

August 21, 2008
CONTACT: Ben Stein, NIST
(301) 975-3097
ben.stein@nist.gov

Michael Newman , NIST
(301) 975-3025
mnewman@nist.gov


GAITHERSBURG, Md.—The fall of the 47-story World Trade Center building 7 (WTC 7) in
New York City late in the afternoon of Sept. 11, 2001, was primarily due to fires, the
Commerce Department’s National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) announced
today following an extensive, three-year scientific and technical building and fire
safety investigation. This was the first known instance of fire causing the total
collapse of a tall building, the agency stated as it released for public comment its
WTC investigation report and 13 recommendations for improving building and fire safety.

"Our study found that the fires in WTC 7, which were uncontrolled but otherwise similar
to fires experienced in other tall buildings, caused an extraordinary event,"
said NIST WTC Lead Investigator Shyam Sunder. “Heating of floor beams and girders caused a
critical support column to fail, initiating a fire-induced progressive collapse that brought
the building down.”


Ben Stein, not the same Bent Steam that caused such furore not long ago with a creationist propaganda movie 'Expelled', surely.

If it was fires alone they certainly did cause an extraordinary event - one column failing caused a symetrical collapse. Oh! Come on Sham Sunder, with all your qualifications you KNOW that just wasn't so. 'Book him Danno'

EDIT: Sorry should have included the link to document from which the above quote came:

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc082108.html

Just had trouble retrieving it as net is down to a crawl again and causes exploder to er well explode sometimes losing all open windows. Seems to happen every time I am logged in here. Me paranoid - Nah!

Makes it difficult to keep on track though.

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I guess Lucky Larry should have waited for those thirteen recommendations for improving building safety before he rebuilt WTC7. It could easily collapse as well if there's a fire.

It's probably insured though. whistle.gif
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post Aug 21 2008, 11:29 AM
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I would like a transcript of this little Q&A tapdance...
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post Aug 21 2008, 11:45 AM
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You notice how quickly that woman's handler threw out the question from Bill? Jenkins of "Building Safety Journal" magazine about steel and concrete's ability to resist fire and moved to the next question? [around 34:40 in the MP3]

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=906_1219351842
Reason for edit: added Jenkin's name and audio time
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post Aug 21 2008, 11:53 AM
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What a pile of steamin pig S***. It is what was expected of a bunch of corrupt murdering slagheaps.

So then, debris from the falling WTC1 and 2 had NO impact in the cause of WTC7 to collapse. Camp fires in WTC7 apparently behaved in such a manner, they were hot enough to cause the central core to fail.
Hey guys, you certainly have cornered the market in building skyscrapers out of lead!. Why not build them from paper, and then claim the weight of the selotape caused them collapse after George bush flew a housefly into one of them.

Every single god damned video I have seen on WTC7 collapse, does not show anything which shows this pack of NIST lies to even come close.

Every manjack and woman of NIST should be brought up on charges of murder, corruption and aiding and abetting war crimes.

Just seen their videos. laughing1.gif

Why, they have a computer generated model of the thing falling OVER, not straight down. Who is paying them off with millions of dollars?.

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QUOTE (Truthseekers @ Aug 19 2008, 02:53 PM) *
Every manjack and woman of NIST should be brought up on charges of murder, corruption and aiding and abetting war crimes.

Agreed!

And that is just for starters.

I could not get the presentation though.

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QUOTE (Turbofan @ Aug 21 2008, 09:51 AM) *
Is anyone recording this audio/video?

I think there's a reason they used this ON24 RealPlayer format. Even one of the apparently computer-savvy Randiites was complaining about the NIST viewer "diagnostics" yesterday.
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I didn't watch it because I didn't want to install their 'plug-ins'. to_keep_order.gif
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It was heartening to see some honest questions and not just softballs tossed...I bet someone was wetting his/her pants when the inforwars guy started talking.

The claims made are so unbelievably impossible, that from an engineering/structural viewpoint, Gage et al will have no problem blowing this report out of the water.

So you have to continually push termate against the beam for it to work?? I wonder how they get someone to volunteer to do that when it is planned for use in demolition?

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Funny eh guys?. Dr Shyam (sham) certainly a suitable name.
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QUOTE (Truthseekers @ Aug 21 2008, 04:06 AM) *
I must admit, I find it very odd that the disclaimer seems to indicate that what is below that, is purely made up, or am I reading in between the lines, too much?. I realise the NIST is made up anyway, but to say so itself is one thing, and also, to say that no use can be made of the report from a legal standpoint is corrupt.

Hi Truthseekers,

My bracketed editorial comment [a standard US format] was essentially the foundation of the Infowars.com question that was thrown out and never addressed. I called it last night, right after I read that "no WTC7" steel in the NCSTAR1-3, IIRC.
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QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Aug 21 2008, 10:06 AM) *
I didn't watch it because I didn't want to install their 'plug-ins'. to_keep_order.gif

Good call OF. I think I'm going to run a "full sweep" with my antivirus, registry, and antispyware collection. Might find something interesting...
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