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"flight 77" The White Plane, (New CIT release!)

Craig Ranke CIT
post Oct 12 2007, 01:25 PM
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CIT further exposes the mainstream media cover-up with this extremely important new 37 minute short revealing what the people of Arlington REALLY saw on 9/11.

It's clear the media is complicit in this operation and/or manipulated by the perpetrators so to accept what they report out of hand and keep turning back to the previously published eyewitness accounts as valid evidence can only push us farther from the truth.

Here we lift the veil of media deception to give you an inside look at how the operation was carried out.

Citizen Investigation Team presents:

"Flight 77" The White Plane

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Ashoka
post Oct 12 2007, 02:21 PM
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The Rades data shows a plane going over Washington D.C. and coming from the Andrews Air Force base, minutes after the attack. It's a serious candidate for being the E-4B.

The interesting thing is that this plane took off from Andrews at approximately 9:44 a.m



and went over D.C. between 9:45 and 9:46. So it may be the white Jet mentioned by John King

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But ABC reported of a white plane at 9:41 a.m.

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So it may indeed be a report of the flyover jet (It took off 3 minutes later!)

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Craig Ranke CIT
post Oct 12 2007, 02:53 PM
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Exactly and all that is covered.


But.....

We should not automatically accept the government provided RADES data as valid.

It was likely released for the PURPOSE of supporting the notion that the E4B was in the area that quickly.

It doesn't matter though because one thing for sure is that we KNOW the E4B didn't fly tree-top level over Arlington timed perfectly with the explosion as the genuine witnesses we present all report!
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post Oct 12 2007, 03:01 PM
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I would say that the white plane was reported at 9:40, since clearly was in route to Peter Jennings ear piece via their channels. So that could mean as early as 9:39 the info was out there on its way in.

We have to be careful with that RADES data, as that would mean if you accept one thing, you accept all of it.
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post Oct 12 2007, 04:16 PM
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oops, sorry Craig! I didnt see this thread and posted it also in the lobby.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...9548&st=0&#last

No problemo: I will move it to the multimedia forum and embed the
video here in your initial post. Great ivestigative work!

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post Oct 12 2007, 04:20 PM
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Awesome!

The more posts the better!

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post Oct 12 2007, 05:16 PM
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What radar data is this based on? I have never seen anything covering the period after 9:37 am for Washington DC. I am still being told by the FAA that is not yet approved for release by the Department of Transportation.
Was any transponder data attached to this radar return?
Can you determine how close it came to the White House?
It seems to be north of the White House and Capitol outside of P-56
and the videos show the E-4B flying directly above the Capitol dome.
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post Oct 12 2007, 07:53 PM
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The link to 84th RADES data says


"white plane.xls (35 KB) Report abuse

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Where exactly does the "government provided" RADES data come from?
How was it obtained? Is it from JSS radar or ARS radar?
How come the air force suddenly gives it out after saying it didn't exist?
This is very confusing.
We need more background on this.
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post Oct 12 2007, 09:04 PM
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Good job guys!

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post Oct 13 2007, 03:22 AM
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The Rades data was obtained by John Farmer trough a FOIA.

Cover letter.

I searched for possibile targets and found this plane. So I extrapolated the data and put it in an Excel Table

uploaded here

For the Rades data I think you can ask John

M3 is 0310 (it's the transponder code, isn't it?)
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post Oct 13 2007, 05:34 AM
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Being curious about what exactly was being flown over and not being familiar enough with Washington DC or the satellite image, I tried my hand at mapping Ashoka's image onto a Google Hybrid map. I used the first image below to compare with satellite/hybrid alternating maps to try to match things up as closely as I could. The Pentagon is indicated in blue @ the bottom. I call the minimum distance north of the WH and Capitol Buildings as being ~ 1.25 mi. give or take .05 mi. or so- right around 2 km, I think. It looks like it got slightly closer to the WH than to the Capitol. As far as I can tell, that plane never went into P-56A, judging by these boundaries (though I'm not sure how far east of the Capitol the border extends- Stanton Park, if that's what is meant is between 4th and 6th streets NE and Massachusetts and Maryland Ave's run up to it):
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P-56A covers approximately the area west of the Lincoln Memorial (Rock Creek Park) to east of the Capitol (Stanton Square) and between Independence Ave. and K Street up to 18,000 feet.

http://www.iflyamerica.org/faa_fact_sheet.asp



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post Oct 13 2007, 05:58 AM
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any pilot/atc familiar with andrews afb departure procedures? I find only this:

http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0710/NE3TO.PDF

Runway 01L/01R: TYSON ONE DEPARTURE: Turn left
track 270 within 3 DME of ADW VORTAC, expect
vectors to first fix, cross 8 DME West of ADW VORTAC
at and maintain 3000. Departure frequency-Potomac
TRACON (PCT) 118.95/257.2. RADAR vectors are
required no later than 10 NM from departure.


It seems to fit with initial "ashoka's white plane candidate" path (abeam coral hills,where left turn starts,is about 3nm from andrews), so it could be an aircraft following tyson 1 dep and then flying southbound with a right turn after receiving a vector/direct routing by ATC..

0310 should be transponder code

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post Oct 13 2007, 06:52 AM
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Quote from above document:
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MILITARY USERS NOTE: Civil (nonstandard) take-off minima are published below. For military takeoff
minima, refer to appropriate service directives.


Dunno if this page gives any more useful info or not... most of the links seem to be bad on it.

http://www.lib.aero/arpt/US/US29095/US29095.html

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post Oct 16 2007, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Oct 12 2007, 11:25 AM)
CIT further exposes the mainstream media cover-up with this extremely important new 37 minute short revealing what the people of Arlington REALLY saw on 9/11.

It's clear the media is complicit in this operation and/or manipulated by the perpetrators so to accept what they report out of hand and keep turning back to the previously published eyewitness accounts as valid evidence can only push us farther from the truth.

Here we lift the veil of media deception to give you an inside look at how the operation was carried out.

Citizen Investigation Team presents:

"Flight 77" The White Plane

<embed style="width:400px; height:326px;" id="VideoPlayback" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=2604879952877158021&hl=en" flashvars=""> </embed>

Can you post pictures of the aerial view of the locations of your four witnesses? I see the pictures on the video but I don't know how post pictures from video or pdf. Is there some kind of software you need for that or something?

One more thing. Who was that person standing next to you when you were interviewing Veronica?
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Craig Ranke CIT
post Oct 17 2007, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (Avenger @ Oct 17 2007, 01:54 AM)
QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Oct 12 2007, 11:25 AM)
CIT further exposes the mainstream media cover-up with this extremely important new 37 minute short revealing what the people of Arlington REALLY saw on 9/11.

It's clear the media is complicit in this operation and/or manipulated by the perpetrators so to accept what they report out of hand and keep turning back to the previously published eyewitness accounts as valid evidence can only push us farther from the truth.

Here we lift the veil of media deception to give you an inside look at how the operation was carried out.

Citizen Investigation Team presents:

"Flight 77" The White Plane


Can you post pictures of the aerial view of the locations of your four witnesses? I see the pictures on the video but I don't know how post pictures from video or pdf. Is there some kind of software you need for that or something?

One more thing. Who was that person standing next to you when you were interviewing Veronica?

Here you go!

It's all about google earth and ms paint bro.

ghetto graphics!
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Download google earth. It's free and you can zoom in on anywhere.

Then you just screen shot it and copy it into paint.

The dude asking the questions on the Veronica interview is Russell!

He's the guy in the Lloyd interview too.

We found Veronica on our first trip with Russell and Dylan after Merc forced us all to canvass on the last day before we got detained at the Citgo.

I got all the other witnesses on my own during the second trip.
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post Oct 19 2007, 01:50 PM
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I would think CNN decided to cover the E-4B story because of my many emails and letters to them on the subject in June and July of 2007.
As soon as I discovered the video in the CNN Image Source archives I alerted Mark Gaffney and he managed to get a copy of the video and arranged to
use three images from the video in is article for Journal of 9/11 Studies
which was posted in August of 2007.
I is reasonable to believe that had a lot to do with CNN deciding to broadcast the video.
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post Oct 19 2007, 09:42 PM
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Ok, got it.



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The dude asking the questions on the Veronica interview is Russell!

He's the guy in the Lloyd interview too.

I wonder how he feels about these four witnesses. Their placement of the plane is way off the official flight path. Especially Jamal.
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post Oct 19 2007, 09:54 PM
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Pinnacle

Thank you sir, for taking action as you have done! I appreciate your actions in trying to establish the truth.
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post Oct 19 2007, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE (Avenger @ Oct 19 2007, 09:42 PM)
Ok, got it.



QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT)
The dude asking the questions on the Veronica interview is Russell!

He's the guy in the Lloyd interview too.

I wonder how he feels about these four witnesses. Their placement of the plane is way off the official flight path. Especially Jamal.

I wonder what Russell Pickering feels about himself. Must be a little tough looking into a mirror. nonono.gif
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post Oct 19 2007, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE (Avenger @ Oct 20 2007, 01:42 AM)
I wonder how he feels about these four witnesses. Their placement of the plane is way off the official flight path. Especially Jamal.

Quite true.

Thomas Trappasso's account would have fit perfectly but Jamal's account shows us why we can't accept previously published deceptions.

Trappasso didn't even bother calling back to say he couldn't make it.

Russell is likely gearing up for pentagonresearch.20 that will focus on personally discrediting Aldo and Craig so he is too busy to comment on the evidence presented.
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