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Lloyde England & His Taxi Cab- The Eye Of The Storm, now released

Craig Ranke CIT
post Oct 29 2008, 05:09 PM
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Get ready for an intense and surreal journey with Lloyde the cab driver while he is confronted by CIT with the north side evidence.

Watch and listen to his reaction with input from his FBI employee wife who he married after 9/11 but was seeing at the time.

See exclusive footage and images of the actual cab as it is today preserved on his 30 acres of property in the woods of Virginia.

Be prepared for an extremely engaging yet disturbing experience.

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Leslie Landry
post Oct 29 2008, 10:14 PM
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Great Job...like always!

While watching this, the thought came to my mind that maybe to avoid the argument with Lloyd, would have maybe been to ask him to clarify again where on the map he was or bring you to his exact location on the highway before showing him the evidence that the plane could not have been what hit the light poles. i think if you would have done this first..then he would have been in agreement that he was at the location to where the photos/videos showed...inevidably giving him no leverage to change his story.

Either way..i do have to applaud Lloyd for being so patient, i know i would have kicked you out of my house after the first couple times you called me a liar LOL. But this man, no matter what...he stayed calm and polite regardless of what was thrown at him. Thats one hell of a Trooper.

His wife on the other hand...she is ITCHING to talk! shes having a very hard time keeping this tight inside of her...hence the little clues in her words...the little slips of the tongue...trying to be indirectly obvious that she knows something.

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going back to watch the first interview again..it just REALLY shocks me to see that minimal damage to even the glass of the windshield, with that pole being THAT bent!
Also, In the first interview, Lloyd cant even remember which way he was going..but yet in the second interview...he is CERTAIN of his location. doh1.gif
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QUOTE (Leslie Landry @ Oct 29 2008, 09:14 PM) *
Great Job...like always!

While watching this, the thought came to my mind that maybe to avoid the argument with Lloyd, would have maybe been to ask him to clarify again where on the map he was or bring you to his exact location on the highway before showing him the evidence that the plane could not have been what hit the light poles. i think if you would have done this first..then he would have been in agreement that he was at the location to where the photos/videos showed...inevidably giving him no leverage to change his story.


I agree... Let the evidence do the work on the witness.

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Either way..i do have to applaud Lloyd for being so patient, i know i would have kicked you out of my house after the first couple times you called me a liar LOL. But this man, no matter what...he stayed calm and polite regardless of what was thrown at him. Thats one hell of a Trooper.


That's what I find so disquieting about taking a view that he's lying. It seems more like
he's as curious in figuring out what happened as the investigators are. If so, that
would suggest that even he doesn't believe his own story, but how can that be?
If he's confused, and doesn't find any answers forthcoming, or even suggestions
to look further into, his best bet, for his own sanity, is to stick to the story he
knows.

I know, that if I had been driving down a road, and never got to the point, that
people were showing me pictures of me standing at. I wouldn't know what to think,
but I sure as hell wouldn't broach the story that maybe I'd been subjected to some
sort of mind control, since, I believe that would make me sound like a nutcase.
Instead, I'd wait for someone else to break the subject, if they didn't, I'd just
stick to what I knew; that I had never driven that far.

But, since his talk about "conspiracy theory lessons" hit me as something that
seemed very strange indeed, I began the "what if-ing" that needs to be engaged
to find a plausible explanation for the conflicts that emerge. I can't imagine a
situation, where an easily disproved liar, would want to engage a prolonged
examination of what he knew would be indefensible lies. A man who did not
know he was lying, or who did not intend to lie, but discovered he had done
exactly that, would be curious to know how that could be.

So, in that light I've found and present this for your further reading:

Mind Control Information Center
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolinformation

This page provides links to a variety of sources of reliable, verifiable information dealing with mind control. Our most basic material is listed first, followed by other resources which delve deeper for those interested in more. We recommend reading through this entire page before exploring the links provided.


Many of the "reliable sources" are newspaper articles from papers like the New York Times,
for example.


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His wife on the other hand...she is ITCHING to talk! shes having a very hard time keeping this tight inside of her...hence the little clues in her words...the little slips of the tongue...trying to be indirectly obvious that she knows something.


Yes, that's curious as well.

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Edit:
going back to watch the first interview again..it just REALLY shocks me to see that minimal damage to even the glass of the windshield, with that pole being THAT bent!
Also, In the first interview, Lloyd cant even remember which way he was going..but yet in the second interview...he is CERTAIN of his location. doh1.gif


Yeah, he's certain he never got that far down the road. But interestingly, to me
at least, he appears to point to an ideal place, where the car windshield could
be easily damaged, out of the public view. That done, he'd wait there for the
signal to drive down the road. The hypnotist at the site of the downed light pole,
would then instruct him to forget everything that happened back up the road,
and then "inform" him that he'd been driving and his car was struck by the lamp pole
which a stranger then helped him get out of the windshield.

He'd then present the perfect conundrum to waste the time of any investigator
who happened along. That is, unless they find a way to examine this possibility.
Who knows?

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post Jun 9 2011, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE (Obwon @ Jun 9 2011, 02:15 PM) *
Yeah, he's certain he never got that far down the road.


Only when the camera is on.

Minutes before that, while he didn't know he was being audio recorded, he let it slip that he knew his neighbor took pictures of his cab and the light pole from "up on the bridge".

This proves that he was well aware of his true location and merely changed his story for the camera, i.e. that he lied.

Of course you can argue that mind-control kicked in the moment the camera turned on but we don't feel that is a very logical conclusion given the evidence.

Here is a post I made on our forum to address the "Lloyde under hypnosis or mind-control" theory:

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The body of independent verifiable evidence proves that Lloyde England was involved with the 9/11 operation.

The only question at this point concerning this is his exact level of involvement.

The reality is that we will likely never know the answer to this question so to discuss it is merely academic, but since it seems to be an issue that keeps coming up let this thread serve as a place for people to express their emotions about it.

Let me remind people that we have always left open the possibility that Lloyde was "manipulated" or "coerced" in all of our presentations.

That being said, we most certainly lean towards believing that Lloyde is 100% aware of what he did on 9/11 and that he was part of the plan and willingly involved from the start.


Here's why.....

CIT considers ourselves official story skeptics, not 9/11 theorists. We are true critical thinkers who saw how the evidence in support of the official story was questionable and decided to investigate it on our own from a skeptical point of view.

We rely primarily on independent verifiable evidence that we have personally obtained and deliberately avoid theorizing as much as possible.

We know for a fact that the CIA has worked to develop advanced exotic techniques to manipulate the human mind as has been revealed most famously via declassified documents regarding Project MKULTRA.

But were such techniques used on Lloyde England?

Maybe.

Again we'll never know for sure.

But this question seems to be a rather moot point and ends up serving as an excuse to not take action.

If Lloyde is under mind-control it's less likely he will be useful in a full blown investigation via grand jury etc.

To simply assume that he is definitely or most likely under mind-control is illogical.

When evidence implicates someone the last thing a competent investigator will do is assume innocence based on hypnosis or insanity or whatever.

The investigator must assume that a suspect may be knowingly and willingly involved unless there is hard evidence ruling this notion out.

Now the question regarding Lloyde's behavior typically comes up. People question why he would talk to us at all if he was a willing operative.

Togny phrased the question perfectly in the other thread:
QUOTE (Torgny)

But I question all: Is Lloyde acting like a person who would knowingly try to cover his role up? I know if I were a part of a cover-up, I would have never spoken to you documentarians.


Lloyde's role was not to cover anything up. Lloyde was meant to be seen, heard, and photographed as the star of a very critical staged scene in the official narrative.

But it didn't stop there.

He was also used as a significant part of the subsequent propaganda with his non-threatening voice and face being out front in the media to help sell the official line.

So yes, in my opinion he is behaving exactly like we should expect for someone in that role.

Catgrlz also asked a similar question in a very poignant manner:

QUOTE (catgrlz)
Why would he preserve, and go so far as to show you, the vehicle whose damage in no way supports his story line?

Why meet with you guys again so extensively, knowing that you would be tearing apart his claims on video. He would have done better by the official story line to either not meet with you at all or to keep it short.

It doesn't add up nicely & cleanly does it?


To which I replied:

My feeling is that Lloyde is proud of his place in "his story" and would like it to be played up as much as possible and that the perpetrators WANTED this from the start.

They likely told him to talk to media and be a face of the event and may have informed him that he would be considered a hero of sorts by virtually everyone.

He may even be disappointed that he hasn't gotten MORE attention and is happy to get it from anyone.

They were likely counting on his likability, the difficult to believe notion of his involvement or the staging of the poles, and the overall robust strength in the propaganda that has quite successfully manipulated masses into steadfastly supporting the "war on terror" even WHILE they oppose the war in Iraq.

The small physical details didn't really matter because they knew there would be no real "investigation".

Lloyde is used to people eating his story up and with the strength of the dark powers behind him he probably has no fear or worries whatsoever about any powerless citizen investigator otherwise known to the rest of the world as conspiracy theorists!

Nobody has ever challenged him to his face. We didn't the first time.

Naturally he may have figured we would on the second time but clearly he decided on the spot to try and "iron this out" with us.

I bet he regrets it now and didn't really understand the level of knowledge, facts, and determination that he was up against when he first uttered the words "you can come in".

Bottom line, it doesn't matter either way because it's clear that Lloyde is not to be blamed for the 9/11 attack and it would have happened with or without his involvement.

But automatically absolving him of involvement simply because he seems like a nice old man and acts confused at times isn't a logical approach to this evidence.



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