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What Cut The Plane Shaped Hole?, Model of the North Tower Gash in 3D

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post Jan 18 2014, 06:23 PM
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No cartoon impression hole on the Pentagon impact, but wing holes on the Towers passes test without question (except us). Endless lies and no DoJ pilotfly.gif .

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post Jan 18 2014, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE (Hsaive @ Jan 18 2014, 05:23 PM) *
No cartoon impression hole on the Pentagon impact, but wing holes on the Towers passes test without question (except us). Endless lies and no DoJ pilotfly.gif .



Sure on the face of it, it doesn't seem to 'make sense'.

But if a plane never struck the Pentagon, why should the 'impact hole' be at all similar to the WTC towers?

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post Jan 18 2014, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (realitycheck77 @ Jan 8 2014, 01:00 PM) *
I really like the tasteless, callous remark about 911 victim Edna Cintron. That really adds credibility to your 'analysis', an analysis which I am sure you went to all that trouble to produce in order to get justice for the 911 victims.


Agree, the work of the disinfo artists is pathetic and disgraceful, and does nothing to add value or contribute to the 9/11 truth movement as the movement of the truth.

This kind of "analysis" and feeding of the honey pot doesn't belong here, or anywhere.

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post Jan 25 2014, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Jan 18 2014, 01:33 PM) *
-Physical impact? Yes.
-Explosives alone eliminated? Yes.
-Holograms eliminated? Yes.
-Gash sizes differ on left and right sides, therefore no 767? No. Why does left and right damage have to be completely symmetrical, especially since the plane was angled.
-Popped up column, evidence of detonation? No! Haphazard things do occur with this type of impact.
-Loosened bolts? Yes.
-Removed bolts and floors? Yes.
-Re-inforced floor with pile of debris? No, not a lot of debris. Possibly reinforced, but not convincing evidence.
-Directional damage from east, eliminating explosives and any kind of jet? No! Can't see any convincing directional damage.


Looking forward to hearing about what you think caused the physical impact and also, how you will explain away the captured video images of planes, especially since you don't buy the hologram and CGI theories.


What is the thickness of the a 767 wing tip, from top skin to bottom skin, from about 18 inches from the tip to the very end? Measurements please. Anyone?

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post Feb 1 2014, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Jan 18 2014, 01:33 PM) *
-Physical impact? Yes.
-Explosives alone eliminated? Yes.
-Holograms eliminated? Yes.
-Gash sizes differ on left and right sides, therefore no 767? No. Why does left and right damage have to be completely symmetrical, especially since the plane was angled.
-Popped up column, evidence of detonation? No! Haphazard things do occur with this type of impact.
-Loosened bolts? Yes.
-Removed bolts and floors? Yes.
-Re-inforced floor with pile of debris? No, not a lot of debris. Possibly reinforced, but not convincing evidence.
-Directional damage from east, eliminating explosives and any kind of jet? No! Can't see any convincing directional damage.


Looking forward to hearing about what you think caused the physical impact and also, how you will explain away the captured video images of planes, especially since you don't buy the hologram and CGI theories.


"Can't see any convincing directional damage". Can't or won't?

Holograms and "CGI" don't cut steel in the real world, why would you think they do?
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post Feb 1 2014, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE (EagleEye @ Jan 18 2014, 06:12 PM) *
Agree, the work of the disinfo artists is pathetic and disgraceful, and does nothing to add value or contribute to the 9/11 truth movement as the movement of the truth.

This kind of "analysis" and feeding of the honey pot doesn't belong here, or anywhere.


I'm betting you wouldn't know a "disinfo" artist if they said boo to your face.
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post Feb 1 2014, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Jan 18 2014, 03:18 PM) *
Sure on the face of it, it doesn't seem to 'make sense'.

But if a plane never struck the Pentagon, why should the 'impact hole' be at all similar to the WTC towers?


Why would the wings fold back at the Pentagon, whereas at the other three "jets" all made wing gashes?
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post Feb 2 2014, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE (yankee451 @ Feb 1 2014, 10:16 AM) *
"Can't see any convincing directional damage". Can't or won't?

Holograms and "CGI" don't cut steel in the real world, why would you think they do?



I would love to see directional damage. I just can't see it however.
And I'm looking for it too!

Hey, I'm not in the hologram/CGI camp! I never was.

I'm a modified planer + modified WTC tower guy.
Very simple.

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post Feb 2 2014, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE (yankee451 @ Feb 1 2014, 10:20 AM) *
Why would the wings fold back at the Pentagon, whereas at the other three "jets" all made wing gashes?



It's funny how people make all kinds of strange assumptions on the part of others. smile.gif

Wings folding back at the Pentagon? Huh?
I've heard of that weird idea, but I never in a million years would subscribe to it.

I'm a 'no plane hit the Pentagon' guy.
That means no folding wings, etc. etc.
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post Feb 4 2014, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 1 2014, 09:27 PM) *
It's funny how people make all kinds of strange assumptions on the part of others. smile.gif

Wings folding back at the Pentagon? Huh?
I've heard of that weird idea, but I never in a million years would subscribe to it.

I'm a 'no plane hit the Pentagon' guy.
That means no folding wings, etc. etc.


No, you're a Judy Wood guy, meaning you have no idea what happened at the Pentagon, not to mention the WTC and Shanksville.
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post Feb 4 2014, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 1 2014, 09:24 PM) *
I'm a modified planer + modified WTC tower guy.
Very simple.


I see. Modified planes were used at the WTC, eh? Modified how? Please explain how a modified jet can be dense enough to slice steel and still be light enough and aerodynamic enough to fly.



Can you tell me the thicknesses of the wing tips of these modified jets?

Can you demonstrate how the damage evidence of a modified Southbound jet caused the damage to the North Tower?





How is the damage to the South Tower consistent with a modified Southbound jet?



Note how similar damage is to both towers. Modified jet you say? Please explain.

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post Feb 4 2014, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (yankee451 @ Jan 8 2014, 02:34 AM) *


What happened to this video?

Youtube says: "This video is unavailable. Sorry about that."

P.M.
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post Feb 4 2014, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (yankee451 @ Feb 4 2014, 10:32 AM) *
No, you're a Judy Wood guy, meaning you have no idea what happened at the Pentagon, not to mention the WTC and Shanksville.



There you go again Steve.
Can you please point to any post I have made here where I say I am in Judy's camp?

I respect Judy, as I do all truthers, who are allowed to have their own point of view.
I may not agree with all her views, but I certainly respect her.
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post Mar 7 2014, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 4 2014, 03:30 PM) *
There you go again Steve.
Can you please point to any post I have made here where I say I am in Judy's camp?

I respect Judy, as I do all truthers, who are allowed to have their own point of view.
I may not agree with all her views, but I certainly respect her.


I mistakenly thought you were a Judy Wood supporter after reading some of your earlier posts, but I stand corrected.

To say you respect "all truthers" ignores the fact that were it not for the red-herrings, dead-ends and absurd "theories" from most of the so called truth movement 9/11 could have been solved in the first year. I do not respect all truthers, especially Judy Wood.

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QUOTE (paulmichael @ Feb 4 2014, 02:48 PM) *
What happened to this video?

Youtube says: "This video is unavailable. Sorry about that."

P.M.


Sorry, I made some changes to the video and had to upload it to YouTube again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPZNQTj2hNg

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