Lloyde England & His Taxi Cab- The Eye Of The Storm, now released |

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Jun 23 2011, 03:25 PM
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Group: Active Forum Pilot Posts: 769 Joined: 1-February 09 From: FL Member No.: 4,096 |
QUOTE But, one way it could have been employed, is to deploy hypnotists, who over the years find and collect optimal candidates who can then be used -- How? Imagine an army of susceptible people, already hypnotized and ready to receive post hynotic commands. Like perhaps "Harley Guy" or the Naudets etc. Operators inserted into the story line at various points, to claim they saw planes etc. I went to college between 72-77. Very often on Weds between 12 - 2 the school would bring in some form of free entertainment. We even had Geraldo & Imus back when they were cool. One Weds they brought in a hypnotist. The auditorium was packed and most people got a turn to participate in one of his stunts. Toward the end he invited anyone who wanted to quit smoking to come up to the stage. A lot of people went up myself included. First he tried to hypnotize the whole group. Then anyone who couldn't get hypnotized had to leave the stage before he proceeded. The hypnotized people were convinced that cigarettes now tasted like rotten lemons and that they would no longer want to smoke. The effect lasted on my bf, who was hypnotized for about 2 weeks. Now imagine that this guy/group probably went around to 100's of colleges and were probably looking for the most susceptible. What an easy way to find recruits. |
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Jun 23 2011, 05:12 PM
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Group: Valued Member Posts: 2,059 Joined: 30-January 09 Member No.: 4,095 |
QUOTE (Obwon) That's what I find so disquieting about taking a view that he's lying. It seems more like he's as curious in figuring out what happened as the investigators are. If so, that would suggest that even he doesn't believe his own story, but how can that be? If he's confused, and doesn't find any answers forthcoming, or even suggestions to look further into, his best bet, for his own sanity, is to stick to the story he knows. Thing is, he has changed his story and continues to change it depending on who is asking the questions. When interviewed by MSM in 2005/6, he went along with the OCT to the letter, pointing to the lightpoles on the bridge: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1julr_ll...and-on-nbc_news http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2276/lloydpointing.png http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5774/lloydpointing1.png GE reference for perspective: http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2189/ll...iewpovsmall.jpg Then the NOC testimony came to light and he was independently interviewed: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...91830986329305# He denied being on the bridge. That he was on "solid ground" Then in "The Eye of the Storm": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC3LRdjocmc http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1378/lloydheliport.png Pointing to where he claims he was: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7645/lloydpointingpov.jpg Then he was called by Jeff "Shure" Hill and he stuck to the same story. That he was NOC but started casting aspertions on the intentions of Craig (due to some leading by Hill because he knew this was going to backfire). QUOTE England: You know what? I know where the cab was and I know where they wanted it to be, but I can prove where the car was. There's a permanent picture of the fire and the Pentagon...my cab is the only cab in the world involved in 9/11...and I now where the car was. And they are trying to put the car somewhere else, for what reason, I don't know because they weren't there. Hill : So they were trying to use some sort of distorted picture..((IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) England: The pictures were made to be in one place when I was somewhere else....my car is not there at the bridge at Columbia Pike. They got it wrong, and I don't know why they have it wrong. QUOTE Hill: when I saw them question you about the picture, that's where I got the impression that they weren't being honest and had an agenda or something CIT were 100% upfront and actually pressing Lloyd to admit that his cab was on the bridge! Here are the images he was shown: http://img827.imageshack.us/i/lloydpictures.png He wasn't "hypnotized". He has had to adapt at every turn. IMHO, Lloyd was involved in a situation that snowballed and which the perps took full advantage of. It could have been something as innocent as a "Walter Mitty" scenario in which he gained financially and where the perps blackmailed him or simply let him dig his own grave (as long as it never reached MSM - which they know it never will). Human nature and taking full advantage of a situation (blackmail and coercion) seem more at play here to me. 2 cents. Either way, the guy is consciously lying. And he's calm and comfortable doing it. That bugs the shit out of me more than anything. |
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Jun 24 2011, 01:34 AM
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Group: Student Forum Pilot Posts: 66 Joined: 9-May 11 From: Hampton Roads Member No.: 5,884 |
CIT...
Sorry if I have overlooked it, but, did you get a chance to interview the neighbor that took the pictures from the bridge? just wondering, and thanks if you can point me in the right direction (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) and thank you for your hard work |
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Jun 24 2011, 10:18 AM
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Group: Active Forum Pilot Posts: 527 Joined: 29-November 09 From: NYC Member No.: 4,712 |
Thing is, he has changed his story and continues to change it depending on who is asking the questions. <snips> Either way, the guy is consciously lying. And he's calm and comfortable doing it. That bugs the shit out of me more than anything. No... no... I get that... Obviously he is lying! That much the story amply demonstrates. What is bugging me is that his lies aren't even fashioned to be sanely credible, and yet for all we get out of it, it still leads nowhere. So, to me that seems like he's in some sort of "containment box". He doesn't have a memory of where he got his orders from, doesn't know who gave them, or even what they were. Thus, he can't even fashion a passably credible lie, because he lacks so much useful memory. Okay so that's my posit. Something that would happen if mc had been applied. Obviously, he would be told to forget what orders he was being given. Forget who was giving these orders, and even to not remember what the orders were consciously, and yet he'd still be able to carry them out by what would appear to him only as a compulsion to act a certain way or do certain things. Obviously he would not be available if he could, if he wished, point a finger at someone higher up. He's only "out there" because he cannot! If that's the case, then unless some way is found to probe for the info, all we have in Lloyd is a vexing circular conundrum. His being "comfortable" with giving these blatant lies, even in the face of the evidence, seems to say that he has no other choice. Or, he could drive himself crazy trying to account for the missing info he knows he should have, but more likely such a person will simply go into denial. It's much better to be a baldfaced liar, than it is to be crazy or admit to oneself that they've been mentally manipulated. Obviously he has no reason to believe that anyone will consider a story about mind control, not even conspiracy theorists, so if and when it is used, it becomes it's own "cover up". That's what makes it the ideal application for an operation where you need so many people, but need to keep them all in the dark. I mean, even though we're all familiar in some way, with hypnosis and post hypnotic suggestion, perhaps have even seen some demonstration of it. Yet, we, and I, still have a hard time believing that it might have been employed here. They say L. Ron Hubbard used hypnosis frequently even on mass audiences. We don't know what the state of the art is, but I just have a sneaking suspicion that it would have been of the utmost practical use here. Of course, I'll be the first to admit it will be hard to find. But at least I'm searching. Perhaps someone who knows more will come to our aid. Obwon |
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Jun 24 2011, 10:37 AM
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Group: Active Forum Pilot Posts: 527 Joined: 29-November 09 From: NYC Member No.: 4,712 |
I went to college between 72-77. Very often on Weds between 12 - 2 the school would bring in some form of free entertainment. We even had Geraldo & Imus back when they were cool. One Weds they brought in a hypnotist. The auditorium was packed and most people got a turn to participate in one of his stunts. Toward the end he invited anyone who wanted to quit smoking to come up to the stage. A lot of people went up myself included. First he tried to hypnotize the whole group. Then anyone who couldn't get hypnotized had to leave the stage before he proceeded. The hypnotized people were convinced that cigarettes now tasted like rotten lemons and that they would no longer want to smoke. The effect lasted on my bf, who was hypnotized for about 2 weeks. Now imagine that this guy/group probably went around to 100's of colleges and were probably looking for the most susceptible. What an easy way to find recruits. Yes, hypnotists were part of many parties, demonstrations, shows and performances, both public and private for many a year. So, we know for a fact that it can be done, what we don't know is what the state of the art is. Obviously a method with so many useful applications, is sure to have drawn the interest of spy agencies world wide, and most certainly the CIA, with it's massive budget at it's disposal, has doubtlessly conducted much research into it. You say your best friends experience lasted 2 weeks? Obviously that's without his condition being "refreshed". I've read that such "refreshment" could come in a form so simple as encountering a phrase or picture in the course of the day. And yes again, there are plenty of ways that stats on masses of susceptible people could be added to a database, ready to be used when needed. 9-11 perps, if behind that kind of "firewall" would certainly have a reason to feel comfortable that they could get away with it. Try putting your self in their shoes, with this kind of expertise at your disposal and a plan to effectively deploy it at critical junctures. Knowing that you'll have people lunging forward as unshakable eye witnesses as needed, would certainly add to the confusion needed to trip up any investigation, if not scuttle it outright altogether. One thing is for sure, we're certainly finding enough places in the official story, to stumble around in confusion over. Obwon |
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Jun 24 2011, 03:38 PM
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Group: Contributor Posts: 1,072 Joined: 15-October 06 Member No.: 75 |
CIT... Sorry if I have overlooked it, but, did you get a chance to interview the neighbor that took the pictures from the bridge? just wondering, and thanks if you can point me in the right direction (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) and thank you for your hard work Yes we talked to the neighbor and obtained a couple of images that he says he took corroborating all other images showing the cab and the pole just south of the bridge. That is covered in the presentation: http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/vi...ofthestorm.html (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/eye%20of%20the%20storm/neighbor.jpg) (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/eye%20of%20the%20storm/neighborpacket.jpg) (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/eye%20of%20the%20storm/pentaw-cab2.jpg) |
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Jun 28 2012, 09:19 PM
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Citizen Investigator Group: Contributor Posts: 1,168 Joined: 16-August 06 Member No.: 10 |
Bump for Lloyde England. Because guilt is timeless.
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Jun 29 2012, 12:11 AM
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dig deeper ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 972 Joined: 16-October 06 From: arlington va Member No.: 96 |
ironic that you bring him up, cuz by complete happenstance i ran into him at the local supermarket
yesterday, and he was looking very frail compared to the last time i saw him there (which was a few months ago). this time he was hunched and using his cart to help him stand, and he walked gingerly, and was very slow and labored when putting groceries into his cart. seems like he is getting up there in age, and probably wont be around too much longer. so while guilt maybe timeless, his life - and his chance to confess the truth before he goes - is running out. (IMG:http://i49.tinypic.com/317i1jp.jpg) |
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Sep 16 2012, 05:33 PM
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Group: Student Forum Pilot Posts: 21 Joined: 15-September 11 Member No.: 6,275 |
Get ready for an intense and surreal journey with Lloyde the cab driver while he is confronted by CIT with the north side evidence. Watch and listen to his reaction with input from his FBI employee wife who he married after 9/11 but was seeing at the time. See exclusive footage and images of the actual cab as it is today preserved on his 30 acres of property in the woods of Virginia. Be prepared for an extremely engaging yet disturbing experience. Home page high quality megavideo version lower quality google video version (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/eyeofstormtitle2.jpg) (IMG:http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/cab%20shots/Picture036.jpg) As much as I try to stay hard boiled on this - to remain data-centric, it still breaks my heart. Watching Lloyd squirm was like getting a root canal without Novocain. To think that people, let alone those that we supposedly elected could be this evil is - I don't know, heart crushing? Soul destroying? And listen to Lloyd's wife.... I think she is terribly conflicted - she admits to a flyover and not a strike. I will continue to do what I can to help try and wake people up, and use my expertise in avionics, post-event telemetry analysis, and RF when such skills can help. My terrible fear is that if the kitchen gets too hot for the perps, they will create yet another false flag op to divert from this. A lie to cover a lie. I salute and congratulate CIT, and Architects and Engineers (who have scored a huge coup with Colorado PBS). When the time is right, the anomalies associated with flight physics and avionics can be used to further the push for the investigation that must come before our country can heal. I believe that one of the purposes (the psyop part) of this false flag was to cause extreme cognitive dissonance in the public - to cause psychic trauma. Those of us who have not succumbed to this psycho-trauma must push on. |
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Sep 17 2012, 11:35 AM
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Group: Student Forum Pilot Posts: 21 Joined: 15-September 11 Member No.: 6,275 |
I'm not a gun person. but in the video, I think that Lloyde had a Kalishnikov casually resting in the corner of his living room. Does anyone else think that is a tad strange? - if it is indeed an AK47? Can someone take a look and see if that is what I think I saw? My living room has flowers, etc, not semi-automatic weapons. Maybe its Shirley's. Like I said, guns are not my thing - thanks
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