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Lasthorseman
post May 26 2008, 10:32 PM
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Cold Fusion
http://physicsworld.com/blog/2008/05/coldf...on_a_suc_1.html
And now this
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/obituarie.../EugeneMallove/
I really do think the answer in the the vault at Exxon.
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post May 26 2008, 10:51 PM
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Cool (about the demonstration in Japan - not about Eugene Mallove's demise).
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Some related work is that of Russian Professor P.M. Kanarev and his hydrogen fusion work.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Kanarev_Electrolysis

http://www.guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energ...arev/index.html

As an aside, an associate in alternate energy research told me via telephone this morning of an apparent renewed international harassment/intimidation campaign directed at alternate energy researchers (including US, Europe, and Australia, at least). I seem to recall reading somewhere that Kanarev was threatened last year. Most are planning on reporting these incidents and NOT going quietly, from what my associate told me (an open-source movement is much harder to kill)...

There have been reports of recent ISP logging at one page in particular (not linked here for obvious privacy reasons), followed by the harassment.
FWIW, here is a [semi-standard] "sanitized" version of one webpage that used to have very good alt. energy information last fall/winter:

http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/

Also the 107th US Senate EPW Committe was already briefed on this subject back in Oct. 2000 (I find the pre-9/11 date interesting myself).

http://epw.senate.gov/107th/loder.htm

http://www.aero2012.com/en/outsidethebox.mhtml

More on technology suppression:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Suppression

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/..._suppressed.htm

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowland...project114.html

[Yes, it's Rense, I know- I'm just the messenger here]
http://www.rense.com/general72/oinvent.htm

Here's a related book:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/089529809..._pr_product_top

Lunk has a related FE thread around here somewhere, but my searches just came up empty.
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post May 27 2008, 12:04 AM
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Free energy thread:

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....t&p=9432071

P.S. my microwave experiment didn't work.
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dmole
Your links are excellent. I have done lots of frequency generator electrolysis of water. Tap water is very, very gross stuff. Kanarov stuff looks very good and a new idea.
The Senate Committe is also interesting as it mentions Bearden.
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post May 28 2008, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (Lasthorseman @ May 28 2008, 05:40 PM) *
dmole
Your links are excellent. I have done lots of frequency generator electrolysis of water. Tap water is very, very gross stuff.


2 stainless spoons (not touching) in a glass of tap water attached to a 9V, for 5 minutes.

You may not want to drink it anymore.

What frequency caused the greatest electrolysis?
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QUOTE (lunk @ May 28 2008, 07:15 PM) *
What frequency caused the greatest electrolysis?

I can't speak for Lasthorseman, but I'll posit somewhere near 42-43 KHz. I've read that Dan Danforth liked 14,372 Hz and 43,430 Hz the best. The reports of John W. Keely's water experiments are strange to say the least (HINT: he allegedly used a quartz glass container).

http://keelynet.com/energy/docx.htm

http://www.rexresearch.com/meyerhy/meyerhy.htm

Zigouras got "suppressed" I hear, but take a look at the following semi-dubious page (it is theoretically possible to find a diamond in a cow pasture, right? wink.gif ):

http://waterfuel.100free.com/water_dissociation_2.html

Ever hear of the Freeman "brazing alloy" patent, circa 1957? Don't dig too deep- I've got a copy of it somewhere.

Also see the ALLH2 cell:
http://www.allh2.com/912625.html

I think that lunk already found or else caught my reference to Dr. Randall Mills' BlackLightPower:
http://www.blacklightpower.com/

http://www.blacklightpower.com/AVI/BlackLi...resentation.wmv

http://www.blacklightpower.com/theory/book.shtml

I've heard that Xogen has one of late Stanley Meyer's brothers aboard:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Xog...echnologies_Inc

That's probably enough links for now.

Admins: we might want to merge this thread under lunk's FE thread in AT- I doubt the 3+ of us are done here. wink.gif
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QUOTE (lunk @ May 28 2008, 07:15 PM) *
2 stainless spoons (not touching) in a glass of tap water attached to a 9V, for 5 minutes.

You may not want to drink it anymore.

CAUTION: do lunk's experiment outside away from flame or ignition sources, please.
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post May 30 2008, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE (dMole @ May 29 2008, 04:52 AM) *
CAUTION: do lunk's experiment outside away from flame or ignition sources, please.


This one isn't dangerous...
as long as there aren't too many electolites in the tap water,
but this is not about the gasses given off,
it's about what happens to the tap water, left in the glass.

probably a good idea to take dmoles' advice anyway...
...especially with any of my experiments.

My clear tap water turned orange, then brown,
no longer appearing fit to drink.

It's the invisible dissolved ions, in the water, that come out of solution after a little bit of electricity goes through, showing their colorful elemental salts.

It's sort of a purity test for water.
A purer water wouldn't necessarily change colour.

This water purity test
does not assure purity.
But it can give you a pretty good idea
of what's in your tap water.

On a lighter note...
Do not let anyone inhale this stuff:

http://www.dhmo.org/

cheers, lunk

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post May 30 2008, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (lunk @ May 29 2008, 10:48 PM) *
This one isn't dangerous...
as long as there aren't too many electolites[electrolytes wink.gif ] in the tap water,
but this is not about the gasses given off,
it's about what happens to the tap water, left in the glass.

Lunk... buddy...

Ever hear of the Salt River Drainage before?

http://www.srpnet.com/about/facts.aspx

Interesting that those corporate jokers control the water and electricity for ~3 million people in the "Valley of the Sun" IIRC... whistle.gif

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post May 30 2008, 10:17 AM
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Here is a way of purifying tap water, if you got sun:

http://www.solarwaterpurifier.com/html/howworks.htm

Oh ya,
this thread is about the suppression of alternate energy sources.

I guess I got to build a geothermal water purifier.
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post May 30 2008, 10:19 AM
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Who TF are our 2 "anonymous" guests this morning?
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post May 30 2008, 10:51 AM
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Ha ha! I have made myself invisible.

one of them is me.
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post May 30 2008, 11:02 AM
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I rematerialized.

There is a check box on the login page.
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QUOTE (lunk @ May 30 2008, 07:51 AM) *
Ha ha! I have made myself invisible.

one of them is me.

[In my best John Torturo]: Ah, you are very sneaky, sir. wink.gif
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