American Airlines Edited Wikipedia To State.., flight 77 and 11 did NOT fly on 9/11. Options

[shug7272]

http://digg.com/security/American_Airlines...9_11_never_flew

Check this out. Unbelievable. The edit can be traced directly back to American Airlines.

From ARIN

OrgName: American Airlines Incorporated
OrgID: AMERIC-112
Address: P.O.Box 619616
Address: MD 5308
City: DFW Airport
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 75261
Country: US

NetRange: 144.9.0.0 - 144.9.255.255
CIDR: 144.9.0.0/16
NetName: AANET
NetHandle: NET-144-9-0-0-1
Parent: NET-144-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS-P1.SABRE.COM
NameServer: DNS-P2.SABRE.COM
NameServer: DNS-P3.SABRE.COM
NameServer: DNS-P4.SABRE.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 1990-10-31
Updated: 2002-06-27

RTechHandle: OG60-ARIN
RTechName: Gelbrich, Orf
RTechPhone: +1-817-931-3145
RTechEmail: orf.gelbrich@aa.com

OrgTechHandle: ZW72-ARIN
OrgTechName: WARIS, ZISHAN
OrgTechPhone: +1-817-967-1242
OrgTechEmail: zishan.waris@aa.com

[Sanders]

I've heard this before - don't know if it's true. Makes sense to me though that the flights would have been unscheduled (at least up until that morning). Had they been scheduled, they probably would have been more than 30% full, don't ya think?

[Beached]

Good find Shug! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

[amazed!]

Wow, this is interesting!

Why would they do this? There must be an infinite number of possible reasons why they decided to do this.

Technically, it might be accurate to say that those flights did not operate that day...?

[Guinan]

Revision as of 19:30, 25 April 2006

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=50132865

.... that's 16 months ago !

Interesting as it is, how come we haven't heard of this earlier?

[shug7272]

Revision as of 19:30, 25 April 2006

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=50132865

.... that's 16 months ago !

Interesting as it is, how come we haven't heard of this earlier?

The wikiscanner that is used to know who changes entries is not fast by any means. This is not the first one that has come to the public attention lately that is a older edit. Microsoft was caught with it not long ago as was some other big name corporations. The government as well. It is interesting, no smoking gun, but interesting. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thank you beached. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by shug7272: Aug 25 2007, 06:25 PM

[UnderTow]

Nice (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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[rob balsamo]

Too many people are touting this as proof AA11 and AA77 didnt fly on Sept 11 such as the headline at prisonplanet...

American Airlines - "9/11 Didn't Happen"

No where in the wiki entry does it say that. It says the flights were not scheduled for that day. Big difference.

We have received quite a few emails on this topic, but its not going up on our front page just yet. I have a few calls out to AA contacts to get the real story and inquire regarding AA Scheduling/dispatch.

In other words, just because AA77 nor 11 were not originally scheduled to fly that day, doesnt mean they couldnt have added those two flights to the schedule, on that day. There are many possibilities for this. One being over-bookings.. or perhaps for Sept 11 Red Team - Blue Team Drills. Who knows...

We're looking into it... but its definitely not something for the front page... yet.

It could also mean an employee of AA or AA themselves is trying to tell people that those flights weren't scheduled and the government is lying about those flights being used on 9/11, which would further the military plane being inserted/used theory.

Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001.

I highlighted a section in the quote to theorize some more. It says the flights were operational before and after 9/11. That means those flights were not destroyed on 9/11. From this we can deduce that the flights were not scheduled on 9/11, didn't fly on 9/11 and weren't destroyed on 9/11. Does this make sense? It does to me and it's damned interesting! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

[shug7272]

It could also mean an employee of AA or AA themselves is trying to tell people that those flights weren't scheduled and the government is lying about those flights being used on 9/11, which would further the military plane being inserted/used theory.

Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001.

I highlighted a section in the quote to theorize some more. It says the flights were operational before and after 9/11. That means those flights were not destroyed on 9/11. From this we can deduce that the flights were not scheduled on 9/11, didn't fly on 9/11 and weren't destroyed on 9/11. Does this make sense? It does to me and it's damned interesting! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

Na... its ALLLLL coincidence. All of it. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[rob balsamo]

That means those flights were not destroyed on 9/11. From this we can deduce that the flights were not scheduled on 9/11, didn't fly on 9/11 and weren't destroyed on 9/11. Does this make sense? It does to me and it's damned interesting! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

Incorrect. If it said "tail number was scheduled and flew after 9/11", then you wouild see me screaming this article from the rooftops (and on our front page).

Flight number, Pairings (city pairs), schedules.. etc are scheduled way in advance at an airline. Putting an actual airplane (tail number) on that city pair (Flight Number) is up to dispatch.


It is interesting that both Flights were not scheduled for that day and is why im looking into it further. However, its not uncommon and certainly not front page news.

As a side note, We have a few pilots who flew Flight 77 many times (and return city pair), that doesnt mean they flew N644AA.

[amazed!]

BoneZ

I'm thinking the same way--maybe an employee is trying to be a whistle blower?

It does have some significance it would seem.

[shug7272]

That means those flights were not destroyed on 9/11.  From this we can deduce that the flights were not scheduled on 9/11, didn't fly on 9/11 and weren't destroyed on 9/11.  Does this make sense?  It does to me and it's damned interesting!  (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

Incorrect. If it said "tail number was scheduled and flew after 9/11", then you wouild see me screaming this article from the rooftops (and on our front page).

Flight number, Pairings (city pairs), schedules.. etc are scheduled way in advance at an airline. Putting an actual airplane (tail number) on that city pair (Flight Number) is up to dispatch.


It is interesting that both Flights were not scheduled for that day and is why im looking into it further. However, its not uncommon and certainly not front page news.

As a side note, We have a few pilots who flew Flight 77 many times (and return city pair), that doesnt mean they flew N644AA.

Thanks for this, I was misunderstanding it and you corrected me.

[behind]

To me it looks like a very strange coincidenece. And why they do not explain it further. I understand that for example, that a flight number does not mean tail number etc... but "daily departures before" ...but not on 9/11... and also a "month after"

"Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and Flight 11 (a Boeing 767). Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001. The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day."

And wiki say about AA flight 77

"American Airlines Flight 77 was a morning flight that routinely flew from Washington Dulles International Airport"
...
Notes: "After the crash, the flight route designation for future flights on the same route was renumbered to Flight 149, which is now operated by a Boeing 737-800 instead of a Boeing 757-200."

That is, the key point to me is, that they dont give any reason or explaine why "Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day."

This post has been edited by behind: Aug 27 2007, 10:35 AM

[Johnny Angel]

Cant someone get the names of the passengers of these two flights and ask family members if they remember that day. I often drive friends and family to the airport for departures and arrivals. I recall knowing the flight numbers and destinations so I can check the video monitors for the time of depaature or arrival, and which gates that flight is using?? 911 a day that will live in infinmy, surely those who watched thier familly departs and those on the other end waiting would remember.

When my brother and sister are flying in from the west coast, they call me and tell me thier flight number and estimated time of arrival. Before getting in my car and driving to the airport I always call the airlines and check if there are any delays. Remember Flight 93 which crashed in PA was delayed 45 minutes on its take off from Newark Airport. I often wondered if flight 93 was headed to WTC-7, insttead of Wash DC. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/pilotfly.gif)

[Natasha]

That means those flights were not destroyed on 9/11.  From this we can deduce that the flights were not scheduled on 9/11, didn't fly on 9/11 and weren't destroyed on 9/11.  Does this make sense?  It does to me and it's damned interesting!  (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

Incorrect. If it said "tail number was scheduled and flew after 9/11", then you wouild see me screaming this article from the rooftops (and on our front page).

Flight number, Pairings (city pairs), schedules.. etc are scheduled way in advance at an airline. Putting an actual airplane (tail number) on that city pair (Flight Number) is up to dispatch.


It is interesting that both Flights were not scheduled for that day and is why im looking into it further. However, its not uncommon and certainly not front page news.

As a side note, We have a few pilots who flew Flight 77 many times (and return city pair), that doesnt mean they flew N644AA.

Thank you sir. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

I have a hunch this story is a honey pot. I wish so, oh how much do I verily, that this will pan out, and yet I believe it will prove to be a rice paddy turd bucket.

[LizzyTish]

This from Daily Kos

American Airlines - "9/11 Didn't Happen"
by Six Degrees of Aaron
Sat Aug 25, 2007 at 06:38:35 AM PDT

WikiScanner discovered that American Airlines changed their Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 never flew on 9/11.

Original entry was:

Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: American Airlines Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and American Airlines Flight 11 (a Boeing 767).

New entry is:

Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and Flight 11 (a Boeing 767). Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001. The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day.
Six Degrees of Aaron's diary :: ::
A Google search of the IP address that made the change - 144.9.8.21 - is located at American Airlines.

Why the change American airlines? Did the flights actually operate or did we just imagine all of that?

I find this sort of sicken.

Go to their website www.aa.com to tell them what you think.

The IP address belongs to American Airlines. Why would someone change this information 6 years later? Is it a whistleblower? Is it a neocon ploy? I remember way back that someone had checked tail numbers and a couple of them were still listed as being in service after 9/11, but I don't remember which planes they were.

And I also remember that Betty Ong first told them she was on Flight 12, then quickly changed it to Flight 11. And finally, didn't they change the boarding gate at the last minute to the one next to where they were supposed to board Flight 11?

This post has been edited by LizzyTish: Aug 28 2007, 12:50 PM

[pinnacle]

On a related subject does anyone have any idea why the Social Security Death Index does not list most of the people on the four hijacked planes
on 9/11? It sure seems odd that their date of death would be unknown to the
Social Security Administration when most of the families got government
settlement money that was based on their death during the 9/11 attacks.
It may be just a weird clerical error but it sure is suspicious that ordinary citizens
whose deaths are not part of a huge news story are listed but the biggest names of the 9/11 story are not.

[LizzyTish]

That's another good question pinnacle. Something is definitely rotten in Denmark. How does that information get to Social Security anyway? The only death I've dealt with personally was my father's and I don't remember informing them.

[Guinan]

I remember that there was a thread on the subject of the Social Security Death Index on the LCF. I'll stir around in the old LCF-archives to see if I can find it. Could be some more info there.

G.