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Posted by: u2r2h Aug 29 2007, 07:22 PM




http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/2007/08/jason-bermas-has-norad-tapes.html

Bermas: "Today we actually got the NORAD tapes" that no-one has listened to, other than the 911 commission!

"I've got through it already and they are already talking about the drills, they are talking about how flight 11, ah, you know, is still around, 20, 40 minutes after it hits the building, you know this is one of the phantom flights."

Will have more info as it becomes available.

Posted by: u2r2h Aug 29 2007, 10:05 PM

After I posted the message above on the Loose Change forum, http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=14742 it started to http://www.brainphreak.net/theblackpacket/front/ but was deleted from LC forums in under 5 minutes flat. My IP and one public-proxy-IP is now banned, my message and my account deleted.

What zealotry! I wonder what their problem is. Maybe they think I am a "disinfo agent".

Posted by: Oceans Flow Aug 30 2007, 01:24 AM

Maybe they want to keep it quiet that they have the tapes.

Posted by: u2r2h Aug 30 2007, 03:51 AM

QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Aug 30 2007, 12:24 AM)
Maybe they want to keep it quiet that they have the tapes.

nah, they just hate me.

It is something noplane I said many moons ago. They are totalitarian in this respect.

tomorrow is big downloading day, you'll see.

Posted by: painter Aug 30 2007, 04:39 AM

QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Aug 29 2007, 09:24 PM)
Maybe they want to keep it quiet that they have the tapes.

Well, if they wanted to 'keep it quiet', why did Jason announce it toward the end of the interview with Kevin B?

QUOTE
"Jason:... Michael Bronner who did that Vanity fair piece ...

(Barrett: do you have a national security clearance?)

We just kept pushing, they are supposedly public domain, it took us about two months, and finally we received 60 (?) -- 3.76 gigabytes of information -- I think its basically from everybody's phone. I only ave gone through the first hour and a half of one of them. There is literally a 140 hours of material. So what we are doing right now: uploading it to a server, putting it into a torrent and people should watch out for blogger (911blogger.com?) and other places, really serious researchers who can go through that stuff, because I've got through it already and they are already talking about the drills, they are talking about how flight 11, ah, you know, is still around, 20, 40 minutes after it hits the building, you know this is one of te phantom flights. I have Richard Myers before the 911 Commission on the final day saying, yeah they fought many many phantoms that day, and he is sitting next to Eberhardt, and their big claim, its so funny, (?) how Arnold and Myers are all sitting there, their big claim is "oh well, before 9-11 we were looking at outward threats, we weren't looking at anything inward" Now, on June first and second of 2001, they ran a drill called Amalgam Virgo, where a hijacked aircraft from Alaska comes in and hits the Capitol Building, suicide hijacking, and Eberhardt is in this document and his face is in it and there is a message to all those running the drill, so he knows damn well that he is a liar. And the funnier thing is, on the cover is Osama Bin Laden. So they are running a drill with a hijack scenario with Ben Ladin on the cover of the thing, you know, I can't wait to show the final cut to people, because it has so much information that even the movement doesn't talk about.


http://files-upload.com/files/468260/Jason-Bermas_2---1848-1-20070829-20070828_Tue_Barrett2_51m51s.mp3

Posted by: u2r2h Aug 30 2007, 02:30 PM

UPDATE:
http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/2007/08/jason-bermas-has-norad-tapes.html
"a few hours" and they will be released.

Posted by: u2r2h Aug 30 2007, 03:15 PM

UPDATE: dylan avery Aug 30 2007, 02:00 PM = 19:00 GMT
Bonus...if you want to hear the first two hours...tune into Revere Radio Network tonight at 5 PM EST. http://revereradio.net/SITE/Thursday.html

Posted by: pinnacle Aug 30 2007, 04:08 PM

Does anyone know if they mention the requirement to IMMEDIATELY broadcast
a PINNACLE operational report while all of this is going on?
Also why doesn't anyone interview the guy who piloted the simulated "terrorist"
aircraft for Amalgam Virgo? He has a website describing the whole operation.
Just look up Freedom Jet.

Posted by: u2r2h Aug 30 2007, 05:08 PM

UPDATE:
Dylan doesn't think the files will be upload tonight.
But Matthew Brown says "soon".

off topic:
Who said this:
Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm?'
State-executed terrorism rides in the whirlwind and directs the storm,
i.e. False Flag terror controls world events by way of localized "whirlwind"
Solution is http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/2007/08/download-mp3-of-911-conspiracy-talk-on.html

Posted by: Cary Aug 30 2007, 06:02 PM

"Angel" is code word for Air Force One, according to Webster Tarpley. And "Angel" was threatened on the morning of 9/11, again according to Webster Tarpley, with secret codes faxed in to the plane while Bush was on it, after the Booker Elementary photo-op. Tarpley's take is that Bush was threatened by the shadow govt. to go along with the 9/11 story of the US being attacked, or else. This is from memory. Correct me if I've misspoken.

Posted by: u2r2h Aug 30 2007, 06:12 PM

THEY ARE RELEASED!!!

http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/2007/08/jason-bermas-has-norad-tapes.html


THEY ARE RELEASED!!!

http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/2007/08/jason-bermas-has-norad-tapes.html


THEY ARE RELEASED!!!

http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/2007/08/jason-bermas-has-norad-tapes.html



I am listening to them now!!

http://metro.phaylon.com:8105/

they just said:

a 737 (!) just hit the world trade center, this is real world"

Posted by: u2r2h Aug 30 2007, 06:49 PM

22:47 american 11 the original guy is still airborne
We do have a tail number... N334AA
He is kinda smart, he knew exactly what he wanted us to do.

Posted by: u2r2h Aug 30 2007, 07:16 PM

What?

currently ONLY SEVEN LISTENERS:
http://metro.phaylon.com:8105/

PILOT! tune in! You are missing something!

download is going good! we have 1 seeder and 23 downloaders



The sound files are good quality and they just said:
<b>a 737 (!) just hit the world trade center, this is real world"</b>

22:22gmt <b>You think we should stop the exercise? LAUGHTER LAUGHTER.</b>

Whiskey 105, Delta up there 5 3? I've got they guy calling McGuire. Is he on the way home? 401 kc10 possible Hijack No Squawk .. unconfirmed second hit. Keep calling them! team 23 New York Center. Two KC10s a lot of fuel. team 23 and team 24 airborne. Tanker is on its way back.

Second unconfirmed is United Airlines 175

Battle station is only Langley.

FAA wants to hold them in Whiskey 105.

On battle station! 2526 on battle station, Langley

I want those fighters closer in.

22:47 american 11 the original guy is still airborne
We do have a tail number... N334AA
He is kinda smart, he knew exactly what he wanted us to do.

Unbelievable. JESUS Christ!

changing the symboligy, just going to be whatever.
25 is headed into Whiskey 106

Boston center team. We did the one home in 105, they were on a training mission.
Everybody in training send them home.

We want (Baltimore) center to maintain primary control.
I have an aircraft 6 miles east from the whitehouse!

Radar ONLY! Bravo 032 no alitude, I got em.
I don't care how many windows you break.
Syracuse stand by.

Sqawking 777! Traffic at 22000.

Delta 89 south south east of Toledo
Special track on that guy.

I talk to them, we do that homeland defence thing.
only 140 knots only 100 knots

Posted by: Timothy Osman Aug 31 2007, 08:49 AM

You can get the Torrent from here too. It's phreaking huge 3.22 GB. ohmy.gif
My precious megabytes.

http://isohunt.com/torrents/?iht=2&ihq=Norad

Posted by: biggahthebettah Aug 31 2007, 10:59 AM

I'm a little lost here:

22:47 american 11 the original guy is still airborne
We do have a tail number... N334AA
He is kinda smart, he knew exactly what he wanted us to do.

Unbelievable. JESUS Christ!

----------------------------------

Is this person saying that American 11 is still flying around AFTER it was supposed to hit the WTC? In other words, there was a dummy plane????

If so, this is HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: biggahthebettah Aug 31 2007, 11:02 AM

Are there transcripts anywhere? I know the file is supposed to be huge, but still, maybe someone has transcribed it...

If so, let me know. I'm the kind of learner who prefers seeing the written word.

Posted by: u2r2h Sep 1 2007, 01:27 AM

Any pilot had a chance to listen yet?

try this download link for

File name: DRM3_DAT2_Channel_24_Emerg-AICC.wav_1.zip
File size: 70.57MB

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/0ae3067676_70.57MB

(please don't publish this link everywhere YET, give the pilots a chance.
PILOTS and ATC, please download it NOW!)

this is one of the 15 files.

LET ME KNOW if this download works.
I can get the other 14 there, too.

edit: HERE IS ANOTHER
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_10_TT_TK.wav.zip
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/89f4c5739c_70.66MB

Posted by: Zapzarap Sep 1 2007, 03:51 AM

Just chimed in here.

I clearly remember to have read more than one time that the ATC backup tapes (i.e. from Boston Center) have been destroyed either the same day or the day after 9/11 by some 'superior' ATC official.
The ATC tapes would have been VERY interesting, authentic and 100% proof for anything.


u2 - befor you get a nervous brakedown:

These are the 'NORAD-tapes'.

Which NORAD-tapes!?
I didn't know the NORAD does tape the military radio conversation the way it is done (and must be done automatically) by the ATC (FAA).

The NORAD had 6 full years to do everything imaginable with these tapes.

I'm not holding my breath.


We'll see /Zap

Posted by: waterdancer Sep 1 2007, 04:13 AM

Don't hyperventilate over supposed revelations here without taking into account DRG's take on these tapes:

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=2006091418303369

And yes, the "official ommission report" says they were tracking a false flight 11 long after it crashed. Like I say, read DRG. I'm pretty sure he'll have something new and interesting to say once he's had a chance to check these out in full.

@ Zap- I think the destroyed tape contained interviews with the ATCs about their experiences on 9/11. IOW, it wasn't real time, like this supposedly is. I haven't heard anything about real time ATC tapes.

Posted by: Zapzarap Sep 1 2007, 05:12 AM

QUOTE (waterdancer @ Sep 1 2007, 10:13 AM)
@ Zap- I think the destroyed tape contained interviews with the ATCs about their experiences on 9/11. IOW, it wasn't real time, like this supposedly is. I haven't heard anything about real time ATC tapes.

You might be right, WD, and my memory wrong. I will check and review my archive.

But if you are right, this means that the ATC- real time tapes of the radio converstion on 9/11 must be on stock somewhere!!!

Rob?

You see any chance for another FOIA petition?
salute.gif Zap

Posted by: u2r2h Sep 1 2007, 07:09 AM

why knock the tapes b4 you heard them?

got the truth in your pocket?

Each and every and any time any kind of whatsoever record about 911 is released

... it turns out to conflict with the official fairy-tale.

So why be negative about it?

can you tell me if you are able to download the zips? please?

Posted by: Zapzarap Sep 1 2007, 09:36 AM

@u2
Please don't take anything personal.
I ain't got the truth in the pocket but some Alpine common sense wink.gif

Why knock the tapes before I heard them?

NORAD have not only executed war games on the very day of the attacks with the very scenario that was pulled off in reality and thus are a main part of the conspiracy, but have presented 3 contradicting versions of their 'activities' to the public and the 9/11 Commission, after they were no longer able to keep up the relative previous lie.

Why should I be exited about ANOTHER relevation coming from NORAD. dunno.gif




@Waterdancer: very good link, most appropriate! I have allways been more then impressed by DRG's precise analysis.



I'd be exited if we had the original ATC tapes and could compare them with what was officially published so far.

Robin Hordon!!!
He'll be able to confirm, how, where and for how long ATC tapes have to be stored.

Posted by: u2r2h Sep 3 2007, 12:14 AM

Anyone listened to them yet?

Posted by: mrodway Sep 3 2007, 01:21 AM

For those interested in listening to the files simultaneously, this open source multi-channel audio player / mixer seems to do a reasonable job.

http:////mixere.sourceforge.net/

Posted by: u2r2h Sep 3 2007, 05:38 AM

Here you go!!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/6emdwe

DRM1_DAT2_Channel_2_MCC_Op.wav.zip

120 mB

It is probably the most interesting file to listen to!

PLEASE REPLY and let me know if the download went smoothly

Posted by: amazed! Sep 3 2007, 10:50 AM

Zap

I tend to agree--NORAD or any other government agency can doctor tapes better than anybody else. As as you mention, apparently they already have.

Vanity Fair did an article about the tapes from inside the NORAD facility in New York state. It was interesting.

Here at PFT I've heard the tapes containing some communications with United 93, as I recall, and there was something about the conversations that seemed faked to me. Spoofing ATC conversations is even easier than spoofing radar displays.

Posted by: mrodway Sep 3 2007, 11:37 AM

Also wondering what happened to the other channels 1,6,9,11,13 etc?

Surely they couldn't just go missing as they would have been multiplexed onto the same tape I would have thought.

Posted by: kevinb Sep 3 2007, 07:07 PM

I am having trouble with the download. I have been at 28% for a long time. Not sure if I am doing something wrong......but I am wondering if anyone else is having trouble?

Thanks.

Edit: I got it to work.

Posted by: LizzyTish Sep 4 2007, 06:50 AM

QUOTE (Zapzarap @ Sep 1 2007, 04:12 AM)
You might be right, WD, and my memory wrong. I will check and review my archive.

I distinctly remember someone's boss grabbing tapes, shredding them and putting them into several waste receptacles. Was that at Boston Center? Whatever it was was in transcript form too. It couldn't be the Vanity Fair article I'm thinking of...they wouldn't mention the tapes being shredded.

Posted by: Zapzarap Sep 4 2007, 12:08 PM

QUOTE (LizzyTish @ Sep 4 2007, 12:50 PM)
I distinctly remember someone's boss grabbing tapes, shredding them and putting them into several waste receptacles.

So do I, Lizzy.

The point was, were those tapes containing interviews with ATC personel about their experiences on 9/11 or were they talking about the official ATC tapes which record the ATC radio conversation real time and which have to be archived (to my knowledge) for several years!

These tapes should be analysed and it is very unlikely to doctor such tape because it naturally contains the radio conversation with ALL the planes on the same frequency - quite a lot on a big airport or radar center like Boston.
So every modification in hindsight would have to be consistent with the "story" of each individual flight, starting from the delivery-(despatch) frequency to ground-frequency, tower, departure etc.

Robin Hordon might be able to find out, where the Boston 9/11-tapes have ended up?!

PMd Robin

Posted by: Cary Sep 4 2007, 12:18 PM

QUOTE
The point was, were those tapes containing interviews with ATC personel about their experiences on 9/11 or were they talking about the official ATC tapes which record the ATC radio conversation real time and which have to be archived (to my knowledge) for several years!


It was a tape recording of six ATC employees talking about what they experienced on 9/11. The recording took place on 9/11 after the fact. A supervisor destroyed the tape by cutting it into pieces and placing the pieces in various garbage cans. Here's a couple of stories in the MSM about it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A6892-2004May6

Controllers' 9/11 Tape Destroyed, Report Says

By Sara Kehaulani Goo
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 7, 2004; Page A02

Six air traffic controllers provided accounts of their communications with hijacked planes on Sept. 11, 2001, on a tape recording that was later destroyed by a Federal Aviation Administration manager, according to a government investigative report issued yesterday.

It is unclear what was on the tape, but its destruction did little to dispel the appearance that government officials withheld evidence, the report by the Department of Transportation inspector general said.

The report found that an FAA manager tape-recorded an hour-long interview with the controllers just hours after the hijacked aircraft crashed into the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania. His intention was to provide the information quickly to the FBI. But months after the recording, the tape was never turned over to the FBI and another FAA manager decided on his own to destroy the tape, crushing it with his hand, cutting it into small pieces and depositing the pieces into several trash cans, the report said.

The existence of the tape and its destruction were revealed in a report that initially was to find whether the FAA had fully cooperated with an independent panel investigating the terrorist attacks after the panel complained last fall that it needed more information from the agency. Inspector General Kenneth M. Mead found that the FAA never intentionally withheld information, but he condemned the managers' actions and said they were required to keep such evidence for five years.

The report said investigators were told that the tape was never listened to, copied or transcribed.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/06/national/06CND-TAPE.html?ex=1189051200&en=51f08f2d61df43e4&ei=5070

F.A.A. Official Scrapped Tape of 9/11 Controllers' Statements

By MATTHEW L. WALD

Published: May 6, 2004

WASHINGTON, May 6 — At least six air traffic controllers who dealt with two of the hijacked airliners on Sept. 11, 2001, made a tape recording that same day describing the events, but the tape was destroyed by a supervisor without anyone making a transcript or even listening to it, the Transportation Department said in a report today.

The taping began before noon on Sept. 11 at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center, in Ronkonkoma, on Long Island, where about 16 people met in a basement conference room known as "the Bat Cave" and passed around a microphone, each recalling his or her version of the events a few hours earlier.

But officials at the center never told higher-ups of the tape's existence, and it was later destroyed by an F.A.A. official described in the report as a quality-assurance manager there. That manager crushed the cassette in his hand, shredded the tape and dropped the pieces into different trash cans around the building, according to a report made public today by the inspector general of the Transportation Department.

The tape had been made under an agreement with the union that it would be destroyed after it was superseded by written statements from the controllers, according to the inspector general's report. But the quality-assurance manager asserted that making the tape had itself been a violation of accident procedures at the Federal Aviation Administration, the report said.

The inspector general, Kenneth M. Mead, said that the officials' keeping the existence of the tape a secret and the decision by one to destroy it had not served "the interests of the F.A.A., the department or the public" and could foster suspicions among the public.

On the tape, the controllers, some of whom had spoken by radio to people on the planes and some who had tracked the aircraft on radar, gave statements of 5 to 10 minutes each, according to the report.

The tape's value was not clear, Mr. Mead said, because no one was sure what was on it, although the written statements given later by five of the controllers were broadly consistent with "sketchy" notes taken at the time by people in the Bat Cave. (The sixth controller who spoke on the tape did not give a written statement, apparently because that controller had not spoken to either of the planes or observed it on radar.)

Posted by: LizzyTish Sep 4 2007, 01:54 PM

QUOTE (Zapzarap @ Sep 4 2007, 11:08 AM)
The point was, were those tapes containing interviews with ATC personel about their experiences on 9/11 or were they talking about the official ATC tapes which record the ATC radio conversation real time and which have to be archived (to my knowledge) for several years!

Here's what we were thinking of, Zap:

QUOTE
32 Destruction of air traffic control tape from 9/11
Shortly before noon on 9/11, about sixteen people at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center recorded their version of the response to the 9/11 attack. At least six were air traffic controllers who dealt with two of the hijacked airliners. But officials at the center never told higher-ups about the tape. Around this time, a quality-assurance manager, whose name has not been released, crushed the cassette recording in his hand, shredded the tape, and dropped the pieces into different trashcans. This manager later asserts that keeping the tape would have been a violation of union rules and accident procedures. When he destroyed the tape, he had already received an e-mail from the FAA instructing officials to safeguard all records that specifically stated, “If a question arises whether or not you should retain data, RETAIN IT.” Most, but not all, of the air traffic controllers involved make written statements about three weeks after 9/11, but it isn’t clear how these might differ with what was on the tape. The unidentified manager was later said to be disciplined for this incident, though it isn’t clear how.

Let us give the official theory the benefit of the doubt and characterize this event as plausible. It is certainly sensible with the two alternative theories.

See: http://cooperativeresearch.org/searchResults.jsp?searchtext=air+traffic+control+tape&events=on&entities=on&articles=on&topics=on&timelines=on&projects=on&titles=on&descriptions=on&dosearch=on&search=Go


Source: http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Intersecting_Facts_and_Theories_on_911.pdf


Hmmm....Cary beat me to it.

Posted by: u2r2h Sep 5 2007, 08:06 AM

New download links *rapidshare*
http://u2r2h-documents.blogspot.com/2007/08/jason-bermas-has-norad-tapes.html

Posted by: Ashoka Sep 5 2007, 11:44 AM

I collected some of the audio files about "phantom AA11" from the released tapes.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=8845&view=getnewpost

Last radar position for AA11 was 8 miles east of Kennedy airport

Posted by: Culper721 Sep 5 2007, 08:07 PM

Could we keep a running tally of all the Flight 11 anomalies? Without getting into too many legal details; AAL11 is THE most important flight to focus on.

Posted by: Culper721 Sep 5 2007, 08:09 PM

QUOTE (Ashoka @ Sep 5 2007, 10:44 AM)
I collected some of the audio files about "phantom AA11" from the released tapes.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=8845&view=getnewpost

Last radar position for AA11 was 8 miles east of Kennedy airport

I saw the graphic for that about a year ago when it was released from the archives; are you saying the graphic is confirmed by radio communication made at the time?

Posted by: Ricochet May 14 2008, 11:17 AM

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I have not had a chance to go though this yet, but thought I had better post it right away before it disappears. Found it in thre government attic.
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/NORAD-USNORTHCOM_9-11_Tapes.pdf

Posted by: Ricochet May 18 2008, 02:59 PM

Tape DRM1_DAT2 Channel 13. Norad was actually using CNN as it's source of information as they were totally left in the dark. As well as personal phone call messages being passed along. Someone jokes about not flying that day, another responds by saying "don't worry we'll carjack you on the way home." There is a lot of weird stuff going on. No sense of urgency. You guys have got to listen to this stuff.

Posted by: dMole May 18 2008, 08:09 PM

Hi Rico,

IIRC Channel 24 is one of the more interesting ones that I listened to. I believe that was "Center," and it has some interesting stuff too. You might want to try that one next.

d

EDIT: Has anyone seen written transcripts of these anywhere?

Posted by: Ricochet May 22 2008, 03:23 AM

As these are just released I an trying to find out if there are any transcripts available. If not I guess we will do it. One interesting thing I heard on tape 9 was " it is a four aircraft mission".

Posted by: 1976 May 22 2008, 09:57 AM

Damn, I've use up my useage and am being throttled at 6kb... damn crappy Aussie ISP's thumbdown.gif

I also sent an email to the U.S. Northern Command Public Affairs and requested a transcript of the NORAD/USNORTHCOM 9-11 audio files at northcompa@northcom.mil... but I won't cross my fingers.

Posted by: dMole May 22 2008, 10:13 AM

QUOTE (1976 @ May 22 2008, 07:57 AM) *
Damn, I've use up my useage and am being throttled at 6kb... damn crappy Aussie ISP's thumbdown.gif


Well 1976- the "good" news: [with optimist hat on]: NSA can't spy on you nearly as quickly as it does us! nonono.gif

Posted by: 1976 May 22 2008, 10:30 AM

QUOTE (dMole @ May 23 2008, 12:13 AM) *
Well 1976- the "good" news: [with optimist hat on]: NSA can't spy on you nearly as quickly as it does us! nonono.gif


hmmm... I don't know, our last Prime Minister was so far up Bushes ass I can't remember what he looked like, but hes gone and our new one tries to stand his ground with the Bush administration but leans alot more toward China.... I'm thinking thats better,but not by much dunno.gif

Posted by: dMole May 22 2008, 11:31 AM

Oh BTW 1976,

A "little bird" told me that the newer/(est) fiber-optic communications "uber-cable" spans cross-Pacific from Japan to the US (SFO perhaps?). Just a rumor OF COURSE, but it missed Oz entirely (the way that I do trigonometry).

Posted by: 1976 May 28 2008, 06:58 PM

I wrote to USNORTHCOM requesting transcripts of these audio files...

RE: Transcripts‏
From: USNORTHCOM PA - OMB (nc.pa.omb2@northcom.mil)
Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 3:09:26 AM
To: Lockie (lockie1976@hotmail.com)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED

Sir/Ma'am,

We do not have a transcription of the recordings. However, as the recordings are in the public domain, you may produce your own transcription. Thank you for your interest in U.S. Northern Command.

v/r
SFC Gail Braymen
NORAD and USNORTHCOM Public Affairs

From: Lockie [mailto:lockie1976@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:04 AM
To: USNORTHCOM PA - OMB
Subject: Transcripts

Hi,

I was hoping you could pass this on to the appropriate department.

I'm wanting a transcript of these Audio files...

http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/NORAD-USNORTHCOM_9-11_Tapes.pdf

Thank you

Lockie


So I guess if we want transcripts we'll have to do it ourselves...

Posted by: Leslie Landry May 29 2008, 01:38 AM

This stuff is just incredible. I have been taking notes.

*The first plane to hit the WTC, they kept saying they were getting information that it was hit from a 737.
*They keep speaking about a Delta Flight.
*Claims that AA11 is still airborne after both WTC got hit.
*they talk about Delta 89 and asked if anyone found this aircraft yet
*Bravo 890 made Right hard turn in Washington
*Unconfirmed aircraft coming out of Canada heading right to Washington
*After Pentagon was hit..the guy says that it looks like a very small aircraft that hit the pentagon - "i mean small"
*confirmed united 93 has exploded
Very interesting stuff.

Posted by: Ricochet May 29 2008, 04:57 AM

Very good, at least some are listening. If you listen for the name Collin Scoggins, you will see that the misdirection that he feeds the others. Scoggins is the military liason at Boston Logan. This from Cooperative Research

QUOTE
NEADS Commander Robert Marr later comments that Scoggins “deserves a lot of credit because he was about the only one that was feeding us information. I don’t know exactly where he got it. But he was feeding us information as much as he could.” [Michael Bronner, 2006]
He directed fighters away from the action. "Feeding information", the info was wrong and people die. He was the inside spoiler acting as if he was helping direct the counterattack. A stand down is not nesessary if the information is flawed. The NEADS/NORAD/ command and control could not track a few domestic flights that are travelling at the limits of commercial aircraft then how in the hell are they suppossed to track and fight aircraft capable of mach 3 (or whaatever,you guys are the pilots) fighter aircraft and bombers! I don't think the Russian fighter/bombers send out transponder signals either. WTF, investigate Mr. liaison Scoggins. BTW how many civillian ATC centers have military attachments on staff?

QUOTE
9:21 a.m. September 11, 2001: Boston Air Traffic Control Center Mistakenly Tells NEADS Flight 11 Is Still Airborne According to the 9/11 Commission, NEADS is contacted by Boston flight control. Colin Scoggins, Boston Center’s military liaison, tells them, “I just had a report that American 11 is still in the air, and it’s on its way towards—heading towards Washington.… That was another—it was evidently another aircraft that hit the tower. That’s the latest report we have.… I’m going to try to confirm an ID for you, but I would assume he’s somewhere over, uh, either New Jersey or somewhere further south.” The NEADS official asks, “He—American 11 is a hijack?… And he’s heading into Washington?” Scoggins answers yes both times and adds, “This could be a third aircraft.” Somehow Boston has been told by FAA headquarters that Flight 11 is still airborne, but the commission will say it hasn’t been able to find where this mistaken information came from. Vanity Fair magazine will later add, “In Boston, it is Colin Scoggins who has made the mistaken call.” Scoggins will explain why he believes he made this error: “With American Airlines, we could never confirm if [Flight 11] was down or not, so that left doubt in our minds.” He says he was monitoring a conference call between FAA centers (see 8:28 a.m.-8:32 a.m. September 11, 2001), “when the word came across—from whom or where isn’t clear—that American 11 was thought to be headed for Washington.” However, Boston Center was never tracking Flight 11 on radar after losing sight of it near Manhattan: “The plane’s course, had it continued south past New York in the direction it was flying before it dipped below radar coverage, would have had it headed on a straight course toward DC. This was all controllers were going on.” Scoggins says, “After talking to a supervisor, I made the call and said [American 11] is still in the air.” [9/11 Commission, 6/17/2004; Vanity Fair, 8/1/2006]

Posted by: dMole May 29 2008, 06:16 AM

QUOTE (1976 @ May 28 2008, 04:58 PM) *
So I guess if we want transcripts we'll have to do it ourselves...

That's a good idea Lockie (and Rico)- we should keep a notepad handy while listening to the NORAD tapes and note the elapsed tape times and approximate content. We should probably concentrate on the "very interesting" parts first, then others might want to help transcribe the rest later.

EDIT: Be sure to label which tape you are listening to in the notepad and in the summary posts describing what was found. It might be good to start a thread for each separate tape, maybe in Research?

My $0.02

Posted by: jellybean Jun 4 2008, 09:00 AM

I don't mind attempting to do a transcript from one of these tapes. I say attempt, because I've never done one before lol tongue.gif

I'll do channel 8, then hopefully we can avoid people doing the same channel?

Posted by: Ricochet Apr 9 2011, 03:19 PM

http://911depository.info/NORAD/Tapes/


I listened to all of it and read everything they transcribed. I am going to add to their transcriptions when I have time. Of particular note is Channel TT 21 Op, I conclude a missile tracked. they used quick alert, " quick dropping now quick" not quickly. Quick alert is NORAD for missile.

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Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Station - A Look Inside NORAD The missile alert, called a “quick alert,” appears as a thick red circle on one of the command center's large warning screens. ...


QUOTE
MALE SPEAKER 1: what the hell was that?
Did you see that?
MALE SPEAKER 2: Yes.
MALE SPEAKER 3: (inaudible).
MALE SPEAKER 2: (inaudible).
MALE SPEAKER 1: Yes, just watch
(inaudible), because you're going to need it.


QUOTE
26.9.
26.
26.
25.8.
25.3.
.7.
5. Yep, yep.
24.9.
24.4.
24.2.
24.1 quick, he's dropping now quick,
(inaudible). 24.
(inaudible) a turn (inaudible).
24 and he made another turn. He's
turning right now.
He's making a turn. Man, I would have
(inaudible).
23.9 (inaudible). He's made another
turn. He's coming around, yes.
23.7.
23.4.
23.
22.5.
21.9.
21.4.
20.9.
20.3.
19.8.
19.3.
Still at 8.7. He's turning a little
bit.
(inaudible). 8.6.
up.
MALE SPEAKER 1:
(inaudible), moved
(inaudible) hit the
Pentagon, it got it. Mike
it. A (inaudible) aircraft

or Al told me it got
or a fighter took it
out, one or the other.


Supposedly AA77 did not have a transponder on, soooooo what were they tracking altitude on?

Posted by: 23investigator Apr 11 2011, 03:05 AM

QUOTE (Ricochet @ Apr 10 2011, 04:49 AM) *
http://911depository.info/NORAD/Tapes/


I listened to all of it and read everything they transcribed. I am going to add to their transcriptions when I have time. Of particular note is Channel TT 21 Op, I conclude a missile tracked. they used quick alert, " quick dropping now quick" not quickly. Quick alert is NORAD for missile.






Supposedly AA77 did not have a transponder on, soooooo what were they tracking altitude on?



Dear Ricochet.

That is a very significant question.
What type of --radar-- would these people have been doing the tracking with??

Robert

Posted by: Ricochet Apr 11 2011, 01:52 PM

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Infrared sensors detect the heat energy or infrared radiation from an object. Infrared electromagnetic radiation (EMR) has wavelengths longer than the red end of visible light and shorter than microwaves (roughly between one and 100 microns). The Defense Support Program (DSP) satellite, is an example of a space-based infrared sensor (SBIRS) that can detect the heat signature or plume from the launch of a ballistic missile.


More here:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/sensor.htm

Posted by: Ricochet Aug 14 2012, 09:03 PM

I will have a bit more to add to this soon. TT 21 ops is well worth a close listen to. Something came up east of Boston.

Posted by: amazed! Aug 27 2012, 03:39 PM

Thanks for all you do guys, in pursuit of the truth!

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