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[cicorp]

Why have no photos of OBL been released by now, as with Saddam's sons, so long after his death?

Why no report from an independent coroner?

Why couldn't the crack JSOC sharp shooters shoot OBL in the legs and take him alive, so he could stand trial and provide intel?
Didn't they want to collect the $25 million reward for his apprehension or conviction?
(Plus the $2 million bonus offered by the Airline Pilots Association).

Why did OBL's page on FBI's 10 Most Wanted (still up now), never charge him with 9/11?
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten

This post has been edited by cicorp: May 2 2011, 01:23 AM

[KP50]

OK so let's assume that OBL was a mythical bogeyman figure and that this whole story has been invented to kill off the bogeyman. In which case

1. Why choose to kill him off?
2. Why now?
3. Given the undoubted effect this will have on the gung-ho types and Obama's plunging popularity, what actions will be taken now?

KP

[Lights]

If it can be proven that Bin Laden has been dead for years, then it can be proven that this story is bullshit.

If it can be proven that this story is bullshit, then it should be clear that the entire offishy story is a hoax. It just might dawn upon the broader public that everything we've been told over the past 10 years is propaganda.

I'm watching Blitzer talk about this on CNN right now. The establishment is taking a risk with this tactic. It brings fresh interest to the topic of 9/11.

I think this is all bullshit. I think Osama Bin Laden died years ago, probably within a year or two of 9/11. He was known to have severe kidney disease and wasn't expected to live all that long. If he could not access dialysis services, he would die even sooner. But a death like that would have NO propaganda value to the government here. If this can proved to be the bullshit, I and others think it is, it would call into question the whole bloody lie put out as the official version. Oh, I believe Bin Laden is dead. I just believe it was a good 8 or 9 years ago.

And how convenient this death is, coming up on the symbolic decade anniversary of the terrorism at the WTC.

This post has been edited by Lights: May 2 2011, 01:36 AM

[23investigator]

I think this is all bullshit. I think Osama Bin Laden died years ago, probably within a year or two of 9/11. He was known to have severe kidney disease and wasn't expected to live all that long. If he could not access dialysis services, he would die even sooner. But a death like that would have NO propaganda value to the government here. If this can proved to be the bullshit, I and others think it is, it would call into question the whole bloody lie put out as the official version. Oh, I believe Bin Laden is dead. I just believe it was a good 8 or 9 years ago.

And how convenient this death is, coming up on the symbolic decade anniversary of the terrorism at the WTC.

Dear Lights.

There certainly appears to be a lot of evidence to support your opinion.

I guess it will be brought out next --they didn't bring it out earlier-- as they didn't want to interfere "clash" with the ROYAL WEDDING.

Just a little observation --not a peep on our media about the ==birth certificate --but this bit of news is emblazoned everywhere.

Robert

nonetheless --it all goes on the record

[cicorp]

Why didn't any Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) sharp shooters (the best in the world) hit OBL in the gun hand and legs, capture him alive, and collect the $25 million reward? Plus there was an $2 million bonus from the Airline Pilots Association.

Plus, OBL was a potential wealth of Intel about terrorist groups, through interrogation and cross examination at a trial. Bin Laden walked with a cane. Anyone on JSOC could have outrun him.

The FBI's 10 Most Wanted Terrorists list never charged OBL with 9/11.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten
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USAMA BIN LADEN
Murder of U.S. Nationals Outside the United States; Conspiracy to Murder U.S. Nationals Outside the United States; Attack on a Federal Facility Resulting in Death

REWARD: The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Usama Bin Laden. An additional $2 million is being offered through a program developed and funded by the Airline Pilots Association and the Air Transport Association.

Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.
Bin Laden is the leader of a terrorist organization known as Al-Qaeda, "The Base". He is left-handed and walks with a cane.

This post has been edited by cicorp: May 2 2011, 02:28 AM

[rob balsamo]

Already conflicting reports surfacing.

Obama said in his speech he ordered the attack today... transcript from speech...

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage an...d capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Usama bin Laden and took custody of his body."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/02.../#ixzz1LAoikpHl


....but when the news broke, it was repeatedly reported that Osama was killed last week.

Two senior counterterrorism officials confirmed that bin Laden was killed in Pakistan last week. One said bin Laden was killed in a ground operation, not by a Predator drone. Both said the operation was based on U.S. intelligence, and both

Google Sources

[rob balsamo]

Sorry folks... we cannot examine the remains. They've buried "OBL" body at sea. Breaking news!

LOL... now they're just toying with the sheeple to see how much bullshit they will buy.

Wow...

[Paul]

What does it matter anyway if he is dead or not he had nothing to with 9/11 in the first place it doesnt
fucking change anything does it? Ok so where is the proof that he is dead? I am going to need to see a
picture or something similar before i believe any poppy cock bullshit that Obama and the crapstream
media says, there are too many brainwashed sheep out there that just keep pretending he was responsible
that it was all the work of the big bad terrorists, horseshit my ass wake up you brain dead loosers god damn
sheep bahhhhhhhh look at me im a freaking retard.

Can someone please raise the bs flag please.

Terrorists my big fat lying asscheeks.

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[mrmitosis]

I think this is all bullshit. I think Osama Bin Laden died years ago, probably within a year or two of 9/11. He was known to have severe kidney disease and wasn't expected to live all that long. If he could not access dialysis services, he would die even sooner. But a death like that would have NO propaganda value to the government here. If this can proved to be the bullshit, I and others think it is, it would call into question the whole bloody lie put out as the official version. Oh, I believe Bin Laden is dead. I just believe it was a good 8 or 9 years ago.

Erm, yeah, that's exactly my point.

[kiwisteve]

Once again, the "Fake war of Terrah"shows unbelievable timing.

Firstly, if you Google " US openly admits that bin Laden is dead" you will get results for many websites that from 15th April this year suddenly started carrying this banner and links to the original article here. Odd.

The cat was out of the bag??

Did you see this? "Just released by Wikileaks".

Not a peep from this crowd for ages, then last week, threats of massive nuclear terror attack if OBL is harmed?

[dMz]

So now the BIG, BAD bogeyman is now officially dead and the "body" was conveniently "buried at sea" to "feed the fishes" forevermore...

round and round and round the carousel goes as the propaganda piles ever higher...

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[Tamborine man]

Danish newspaper publish photo of 'dead' bin laden.

This photo has been available on the net for month ......

http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE1269940/usa-...doed-bin-laden/


AP has just withdrawn the photo as there's now doubt about its authenticity!

It's quickly turning in to a joke - apparently ....


According to same paper, New York times has just announced the body 'dumped' in sea!'

'The joke' is continuing ....

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: May 2 2011, 04:03 AM

[kiwisteve]

Danish newspaper publish photo of 'dead' bin laden.

This photo has been available on the net for month ......

http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE1269940/usa-...doed-bin-laden/


AP has just withdrawn the photo as there's now doubt about its authenticity!

It's quickly turning in to a joke - apparently ....

This one?

(IMG:http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/88/170182588_full.jpg)

This has been around for many months. Perhaps over a year.

Isn't it wonderful how a guy with late stage renal failure just manages to look younger and younger??? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by kiwisteve: May 2 2011, 04:04 AM

[Sinewy]

After skimming some MSM files about Osama bin Laden's death, I couldn't resist to give more input. Interestingly, the U.S. dollar rose in the Japan markets after bin Laden's death was issued.

It was reported that his DNA files matched his dead sister's DNA. Other MSM outlets said DNA matching and confirmation will take a few more days to be presented. Perhaps bin Laden will be presented similarly like Uday and Qusay Hussein to the press, mere snap shots to confirm his death.

Elsewhere, I read US is very respectful with regards to the handling of the dead body of Muslims and their burial. One option was to bury his body by dumping him into the sea, and according to some reports within a 24 hour period. Some outlets state that the dead body of a Muslim according to Islamic law requires to be bathed and shrouded with white cloth, prayed over, and then buried.

But one thing these MSMs don't factor in, perhaps purposely as I will explain below, is that in the event of a martyr in Islam, the body DOES NOT require washing and IS NOT bathed. The martyred person is buried in the state that he or she left this world. Hence, if Osama is accepted as a martyr who according to this report was engaged in a firefight with the CIA and U.S. Navy Seals, then he should be buried or "dumped" in the sea A.S.A.P!

But wait, the MSM and the globalists will not do it this way because if they bury him according to a "martyr" status in Islam, in that they should bury bin Laden without washing his body and shrouding him, then the U.S. and her allies would contravene their bin laden man hunt and war on terror objective in the last 10 years. All these efforts will be nullified. Giving your enemy a "martyr" status would be a slap in the face, even if he was your asset since the 1980s against the Russians via the GID of Saudia.

This further proves that MSM misrepresents the burial customs in Islamic law purposefully to not include bin Laden as a "martyr." According their logic, bin Laden did not win, but we, that is to say the U.S., NATO, all 9/11 family victims, and all believers of official accounts of the 9/11 events won. This what they want to show the world. Osama, the enemy, was "killed", not "martyred" (Arabic transliterated word into English for martyr is "shahid", meaning witness).


The other side of how the U.S. is respecting Muslim burial observances with regards to bin Laden is quite appalling to say the least. If bin Laden were a true enemy, no one in their right mind would respect bin Laden's religion and how he, bin Laden, wanted himself to be buried after he died. Fucking ridiculous. LOL. And to suggest dumping his body into the sea so his body will not be located is their logic. So they have a chance to burn and cremate their #1 Most Wanted Man in the world, but they might opt to bury him somewhere in the sea. WTF. LOL.


The perps will not allow independent investigation, autopsies, or DNA verifications regarding bin Laden, just as they won't ever allow an independent investigation to open up regarding 9/11. This is another reason they want to "bury" his body quickly and within a 24 hour period. Bin Laden most likely died a long time ago in 2001. Yes, he was, or his image was built up as a CIA/GID/ISI/Mossad asset. At the same time, he had his own objectives that agreed with Wahabi doctrine. To claim that every pawn is a pawn is bad logic. To get a different analysis, one should read the works of Dr. Sayyed Imam regarding Al Qaeda, bin Laden, and Az Zawahiri.


Nonetheless, a precedent has been set. In the same week or so, the people of the world were presented a BIRTH CERTIFICATE and now a DEATH CERTIFICATE. The latter was presented to the world so that former's legitimacy could be "buried" forever!

[rob balsamo]

I read US is very respectful with regards to the handling of the dead body of Muslims and their burial. One option was to bury his body by dumping him into the sea.....

The logic is astounding.

Are we to believe every Muslim killed in Iraq, Afghanistan and those alleged on 911 were also "buried" with the same procedure???

Was Saddam a Muslim? Was Khadifi's son and grandkids Muslim? Was Abu Musab al-Zarqawi a Muslim?

The developing stories are quite apparent to anyone who understands logic and followed the developments closely. There is no evidence of OBL recent death reports. In fact, OBL was reported dead years ago. Further conflicting reports surfaced quickly after the announcement at 11pm Eastern on May 1, 2011 (5 hours ago as of this post), found among the ranks of those in upper intelligence (I worked on one for the past few hours with the Wife of Lt Col Shaffer who is scheduled for interviews tomorrow on MSM.. .will be interesting to see how it plays out). There was no choice left but to report the evidence is now gone (buried at sea).

Its a freakin joke and no one is buying it except the extremely gullible.

[georgie101]

Did you know?

Hitler died 1st May 1945, 66 years ago today. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/s...000/3571497.stm

I wonder whats going on, first Gaddafi's son and grandchildren, now OBL. Big things must be around the corner...

[rob balsamo]

Big things must be around the corner...

Yes... everyone please stay vigilant. The time is ripe for a False Flag with great intensity.

There is not much we can do to stop it, but we can sure as hell keep excellent records after it happens. Stay alert, focused, but calm.

Good to see ya Georgie! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[georgie101]

You too my lovely!
Great posts here on this subject all, I had just got out of bed this morning to hear this on the radio, so I put on the news, but cant stand the BS.

I wonder if we will get another ficticious bogeyman to fear, I mean it just wont have the same feel to it without one?

[KP50]

Yes... everyone please stay vigilant. The time is ripe for a False Flag with great intensity.

There is not much we can do to stop it, but we can sure as hell keep excellent records after it happens. Stay alert, focused, but calm.

Good to see ya Georgie! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Spot on Rob. This is the place to do it, this forum is where everyone comes to when events such as this are staged.

[KP50]

I wonder if we will get another ficticious bogeyman to fear, I mean it just wont have the same feel to it without one?

Well if they have decided to ditch this one, it must mean something - maybe it means that things are about to escalate to such a level that bogeymen are not required any more. I suspect the big event that will kick off the full middle eastern conflict.