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Nuclear Disaster Unfolding In Fukushima

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post May 11 2011, 02:08 PM
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Fukushima has just erupted a huge cloud of smoke:

live web cam:



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this is a live video cam

i sure hope that it is just fog, or the clouds above the reactors.

The still picture that has always been updating every hour,
seems to be much clearer, but i haven't seen it change hourly, as it used to.

http://pointscope01.jp/cgi-local/f1np/f1np1/newimage.cgi
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post May 11 2011, 08:37 PM
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I saw the thick cloud cover too.

Wondered if this was normal fog?

If not it is Death Soup.
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post May 11 2011, 09:23 PM
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RT.COM were reporting that the #4 reactor building was "leaning" a couple of days ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxbm7iJTT8U
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post May 11 2011, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (mrodway @ May 11 2011, 05:23 PM) *
RT.COM were reporting that the #4 reactor building was "leaning" a couple of days ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxbm7iJTT8U


i was watching the live stream with a friend when the plumes of steam coming from the remaining reactors, suddenly started to increase, to the point where it started to obscure the towers.

i think something happened at 10 am PST May 11th at Fukushima.
And it may still be happening, (like the fission material melting down through bedrock, to the water table.)

The good news is i haven't seen any other reports of this incident,
so hopefully it's just the ocean mist, over the video camera.

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post May 12 2011, 03:39 AM
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About the only news I could find...

Tepco: Fukushima Fuel Rods Are Fully Exposed
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-12/j...ds-exposed.html

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The water level is 1 meter (3.3 feet) below the base of the fuel assembly, Junichi Matsumoto, a general manager at the utility known as Tepco, told reporters at a briefing in Tokyo. Melted fuel has dropped to the bottom of the pressure vessel and is still being cooled, Matsumoto said.
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post May 12 2011, 06:53 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haMePBnkJhY

The live video camera from Fukushima has just gone off line.

i think the whole works has gone super critical, and all news on the reactors has been stopped to prevent panic.

Zardoz?!
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post May 12 2011, 11:53 AM
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So here we are after 2 months and the situation is certainly not under control and arguably getting worse

they are now admitting that the fuel has melted

I have always believed nuclear energy was a safe technology

A good friend worked at Diablo Canyon for 20 years, he always said that there was no way anythinng could cause dangerous radiation


he was (is) wrong

Japan will never be the same

nor will the world

safe

yep, that's what it is, safe
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post May 12 2011, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE (bill @ May 12 2011, 04:53 AM) *
Japan will never be the same
nor will the world safe
yep, that's what it is, safe

The world never will be safe until the western civilization and especially USA will not transform its energetics from fossil fuels they since almost 20 years wage multiple illegal theatre wars for, manufacturing pretenses for it as 9/11 or 7/7.

For relevant example the oil production in USA peaked in 1972. (And according to International Energy Agency the world production peaked in 2006, according to optimists then in july 2008).
Since then it declines and USA now produces only like quarter of its consumption, the rest must be imported. Simmilar peaks are in the pipeline with gas and coal in 2020-30es. USA consumed in 2009 94.5 quads (fifth of the world energy consumption of which it was 37% from oil, 25% from gas, 20% from coal = 82% from fossil fuels) and only 7.74 quads were from renewables including hydro.

No prediction anticipates in USA a production more than 20 quads from renewables in foreseable future and certainly not before general fossil peak.

If indeed the Americans will maintain their negative attitude towards nuclear energy under the intensive brainwashing attacks of fearmongers, we've seen in last 40 years, then the USA will inevitably cease to be one of the significant world economics and powers at the latest in the 2030ies, the population will either very significantly decline there, or the level of living will sink on the level of now developing countries like Romania, and China with Russia will become dominant world superpowers. (of course if theyTM somehow wouldn't unleash the global nuclear holocaust...)
This is only what I find here very safe.

So to the Americans fervently disseminating the fearmongering about nuclear energy peaceful use can one at least give a good advice: send your children and grandchildren to Chinese and Russian language classes and get for them a passport.
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“Nuclear meltdown at Fukushima” — TEPCO worried fuel burned a hole through bottom of containment vessel

Nuclear meltdown at Fukushima plant

12 May 2011

Engineers from the Tokyo Electric Power company (Tepco) entered the No.1 reactor at the end of last week for the first time and saw the top five feet or so of the core's 13ft-long fuel rods had been exposed to the air and melted down.

Previously, Tepco believed that the core of the reactor was submerged in enough water to keep it stable and that only 55 per cent of the core had been damaged.

Now the company is worried that the molten pool of radioactive fuel may have burned a hole through the bottom of the containment vessel, causing water to leak.

"We will have to revise our plans," said Junichi Matsumoto, a spokesman for Tepco. "We cannot deny the possibility that a hole in the pressure vessel caused water to leak".

Tepco has not clarified what other barriers there are to stop radioactive fuel leaking if the steel containment vessel has been breached. Greenpeace said the situation could escalate rapidly if "the lava melts through the vessel".

However, an initial plan to flood the entire reactor core with water to keep its temperature from rising has now been abandoned because it might exacerbate the leak. Tepco said there was enough water at the bottom of the vessel to keep both the puddle of melted fuel and the remaining fuel rods cool.

Meanwhile, Tepco said on Wednesday that it had sealed a leak of radioactive water from the No.3 reactor after water was reportedly discovered to be flowing into the ocean. A similar leak had discharged radioactive water into the sea in April from the No.2 reactor.

Greenpeace said significant amounts of radioactive material had been released into the sea and that samples of seaweed taken from as far as 40 miles of the Fukushima plant had been found to contain radiation well above legal limits. Of the 22 samples tested, ten were contaminated with five times the legal limit of iodine 131 and 20 times of caesium 137.

Seaweed is a huge part of the Japanese diet and the average household almost 7lbs a year. Greenpeace's warning came as fishermen prepared to start the harvest of this season's seaweed on May 20.

Inland from the plant, there has been a huge cull of the livestock left inside the 18-mile mandatory exclusion zone with thousands of cows, horses and pigs being destroyed and some 260,000 chickens from the town of Minamisoma alone. The Environment ministry has announced, however, that it will attempt to rescue the thousands of pets that were left behind when residents were ordered to evacuate. At least 5,800 dogs were owned by the residents of the zone, although it is unclear how many remain alive, two months after the earthquake struck.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...hima-plant.html
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post May 12 2011, 05:48 PM
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What i saw live on the video from Fukushima, was a huge evolution of steam/smoke that obscured everything.
If the radioactive stuff has melted through the containment vessel, and then the containment room, and through the floor, and into the bedrock, sooner or later it is going to melt down to sea level. The tons of super-hot fissing material is going to boil that water and, my guess is, turn into an "Old Faithful" of sorts, geyser.

If the radioactivity is as deadly as it has been described, from what i saw, happen yesterday, most of that whole island will likely have to be evacuated.

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post May 13 2011, 09:16 AM
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Update from Fairewinds May 13

reactor 1,2,and 3 containments leaking


Fukushima - One Step Forward and Four Steps Back as Each Unit Challenged by New Problems from Fairewinds Associates on Vimeo.


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post May 13 2011, 11:15 AM
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i think it would be better if they just used poison bait,
but even then...
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post May 14 2011, 01:31 PM
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OK, this is an interesting turn in perspectives:

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When PHB is detonated, it creates radio isotope of Tritium. They are afraid people would find this Tritium as it proves the use of PHB. Thus, they have started saying the fule material at 3rd Reactor should be cooled down by water, thus, started dscharging water from helicopter and vehicles in order to wash away Tritium.

The situation at 3rd Reactor is so serious, thus, need water cooling? In fact water washing is necessary for criminals to conseal the evidence of their crime. Actual situation there would be nothing serious.

If serious, many experts and Universities should have already pointed out the high Neutron Ray value and Japan should be in panic.

Thus, foreigners should return to Tokyo as nothing to fear. Come back to Roppongi and blame on the perpetrators of 3-11 Operation for their madness and stupidness.


http://richardkoshimizu.at.webry.info/201103/article_91.html

Was the whole event, a Japanese staged "9/11" on 3/11?
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post May 14 2011, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE (lunk @ May 14 2011, 06:31 AM) *

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"Pure Hydrogen bomb do not produce any radioactives while it causes the temporary Nuetron Ray. (It wil diminish within 48 hours. Once exposed to it, you may be infected cancer in 5-10 years time..."

Any neutron radiation either from fission, fusion or "PHB" would inevitably activate (transmutate stable isotopes into radioactive isotopes) the materials around and make the radioactivity in vast surroundings quite easily detectable by conventional geigers for very long period of time. That's one of the main reasons why the "WTC nuclear demolition" theories - either by "mininukes", "3x150kt hydrogen bombs" (Khalezov) or by "PHB" - usually disseminated by people who barely understand the issue or are paid disinfo are such a nonsense. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ May 14 2011, 10:48 AM) *
Any neutron radiation either from fission, fusion or "PHB" would inevitably activate (transmutate stable isotopes into radioactive isotopes) the materials around and make the radioactivity in vast surroundings quite easily detectable by conventional geigers for very long period of time. That's one of the main reasons why the "WTC nuclear demolition" theories - either by "mininukes", "3x150kt hydrogen bombs" (Khalezov) or by "PHB" - usually disseminated by people who barely understand the issue or are paid disinfo are such a nonsense. rolleyes.gif


-elevated levels of tritium, washed away?
-steam and heat coming from the debris for months, afterward?
-melted iron(?), extreme heat?

That's a lot in common with the demolitions of the towers?

-i'd volunteer to say they were both nuclear, in some way.
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post May 15 2011, 09:58 AM
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http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukushima.html

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This report uses classified leaked high resolution photos of the destruction of Fukushima to support its claims.

They are,

1. Reactor 3 is completely missing, which means the press and anyone who has claimed anything about pressures, temperatures, containment, ect about reactor 3 after March 14 are lying and people need to pay attention to it, because failure of the public to realize the massive extent of the lies about what is going on there will leave the door open to a repeat event.

2. Reactor 4 is building 7, demolished by explosives. Reactor 4 had been defueled yet blew its containment anyway. That is the FINAL smoking gun, an empty reactor is inert, and cannot produce an explosion. Overheated open fuel pools CANNOT produce hydrogen because in an open fuel pool the water boils off at 100 Celsius, and won't be present in pressurized form at 2,000 degrees Celsius to liberate its hydrogen by losing its oxygen to the zircon cladding in the fuel rods. The rods will prefer the free oxygen in the air and burn long before attempting to claim the oxygen in whatever humidity there might be. Rods are many orders of magnitude below incapable of going supercritical also, even if totally melted down. The explosion at #4 was flatly impossible.

Reactor 4's dome was removed for defueling. drone photos prove it.. This dispells the rumors surrounding unit 4's explosion. Some people have said that this reactor was secretly in operation to enrich plutonium. This photo proves it was disassembled when it "exploded", which makes the "explosion" an obvious impossibility outside of supplemental explosives being used to make it all happen. The dome appears to have been damaged when the service crane fell on it.

3. That the destruction of the facility is so severe it could only be accomplished with nuclear weapons.

4. That a nuclear weapon was placed inside of the Reactor 3 containment disguised as a security camera, installed under contract this year by Dimona based security firm Magna BSP. This "security camera" weighed over 1,000 pounds and was the size and shape of a gun type nuclear weapon. Correction - I misread the referenced article. The article does not specify which core, and could mean ALL OF THEM. The cameras could be at all of them. That makes a lot more sense, considering all but one had an explosion far beyond what loose hydrogen could do. Thank you Kyoto observer for pointing this out, maybe at one unspecified reactor, maybe at some, maybe at all.

. . . . . . . . . .9/11, 4/11, 3/11? see a pattern? Let's not see a 6/11. Your time and effort in spreading the word may really make a difference.

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Busby

Of course, it’s time for the Japanese government to take control. But having said that, it’s very hard to know how you could take control of the situation. The situation is essentially out of control,”


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Thursday, 25th February 2010
In Business In Japan,
Japan makes uranium offer to Iran
Japan has made an offer to Iran which could see it help the country enrich uranium, it has been reported.

According to local news source the Nikkei Business Daily, Tokyo offered Iran help with enriching uranium back in December last year, when Iran's nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili was visiting the nation.

The report said that the uranium could be used to make medical isotopes at a facility in Tehran.


http://www.insidejapantours.com/japan-news...-offer-to-iran/



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Hi-tech security cameras installed by an Israeli defense firm are recording events at the damaged core in Japan’s Fukushima nuclear power plant, says a report by The Jerusalem Post.

Magna BSP—based in Arava, Israel—specializes in producing and installing stereoscopic sensory and thermal imaging cameras, and is the contractor that installed cameras around the nuclear core that has been overheating and where explosions have occurred.

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However, despite having the ability to gain remote access to its computer system—which is receiving the cameras’ images—Magna officials have not accessed the images because the company has not been authorized to do so


http://www.governmentvideo.com/article/104048

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post May 21 2011, 09:20 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byeLgGwx8L0
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new vid@

http://fairewinds.com/
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