Aziz El Hallan, Pentagon witness, opportunist, or Mossad Options

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

That's the only witness who mentioned a broken glass:

Terronez, Tony

the pitter-patter of pebbles and concrete bouncing off my car. And the next thing you
know, I heard this big crash come from somewhere. It sounded like glass being
shattered and I thought maybe, at first, it was one of my windows so I popped up to
look but everything was fine. But when I looked to the car next to me I realized that
something went through (the drivers) rear windshield and shattered it. There was a
hole where you could see that something went through it....
         

This sounds a lot like the account of Daryl Donley:

"Also you can see in the road, possibly, all the, umm, debris from the Pentagon—[b]there’s lots of cement chunks in the road."

(IMG:http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/PentCar8029-full.jpg)

I still contend that the wall was blown out.

[JackD]

looks like another case of flying lightpole.

[hturt]

The start of the video -
Aziz: "... just around 9 or 8. 9:15 just hitting the one ten south actually north."

From the start he doesn't have his story straight. Also, 9:15? Was that the time it was orginally planned to happen?

3:40 on the Video -
Reporter: "Were you too far away to actual get out and help anybody...?"
Aziz: "... I did get out from the car, but was kind of ahhh immediately we saw a lot of military police and police get involved and we didn't know if they going to have other explosions after the 3rd one happened"

This part confirms his statement before about being around there for 20 minutes. This makes it even more clear he is saying he didn't leave the area around his car.

Looking at the close up of the picture he has something in his pocket, and doesn't have it in the interview. It's most likely a pen. I'm sure it's nothing, but thought I would point it out.

[SPreston]

The start of the video -
Aziz: "... just around 9 or 8.  9:15 just hitting the one ten south actually north."

From the start he doesn't have his story straight.  Also, 9:15?  Was that the time it was orginally planned to happen?

3:40 on the Video -
Reporter: "Were you too far away to actual get out and help anybody...?"
Aziz: "... I did get out from the car, but was kind of ahhh immediately we saw a lot of military police and police get involved and we didn't know if they going to have other explosions after the 3rd one happened"

This part confirms his statement before about being around there for 20 minutes.  This makes it even more clear he is saying he didn't leave the area around his car.

Is Aziz ElHallan a liar? He says he saw the aircraft at 9:15. The explosives went off in the Pentagon and stopped the clocks at 9:32. The official time that Flight 77 hit the wall was 9:37 (9:43 originally). The aircraft he saw took 22 (28) minutes to float up to the wall? He couldn't check his watch for inaccurate timekeeping and correct the difference? Can't any of these official witnesses get their lines right? Where is the director of this Hollywood fiasco? Fire the inept idiot. Turd Blossom? Where were you when this went down? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbdown.gif)

Is this the aircraft Aziz ElHallan 'witnessed' 22 minutes early? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)

(IMG:http://www.geocities.com/s911surprise3b/american_airlines_flight_77/purdueuniversity_757pentagon.jpg)

Sorry, Purdue got it wrong. According to the security videos, the initial explosion was a bright white
high explosive, not the red-yellow-orange of a jet fuel explosion. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)
(IMG:http://www.the7thfire.com/images/pentani.gif) (IMG:http://ursispaltenstein.ch/blog/images/uploads_img/september_11_pentagon_video.jpg) (IMG:http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/tomahawk-ani.gif)

Perhaps Aziz ElHallan, if we can find him, should be given some truth serum and shown these photos.
Perhaps all of the Pentagon mainstream media witnesses could benefit from some truth serum and lie detector testing. B)

(IMG:http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/911wasainsidejob/200209110272.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.kungfuacademy.de/naudet/AA_missle2.jpg)

This post has been edited by SPreston: Sep 10 2007, 04:04 PM

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

looks like another case of flying lightpole.

you think so?

How come?

[SPreston]

looks like another case of flying lightpole.

you think so?

How come?

Nah, cannot be a lightpole. We all know that light poles are very careful with the paint finish. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
(IMG:http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/PentCar8029-full.jpg)

This sounds a lot like the account of Daryl Donley:

"Also you can see in the road, possibly, all the, umm, debris from the Pentagon—there’s lots of cement chunks in the road."

I still contend that the wall was blown out.

[JackD]

looks like another case of flying lightpole.

you think so?

How come?

Nah, cannot be a lightpole. We all know that light poles are very careful with the paint finish. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
(IMG:http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/PentCar8029-full.jpg)

This sounds a lot like the account of Daryl Donley:

"Also you can see in the road, possibly, all the, umm, debris from the Pentagon—there’s lots of cement chunks in the road."

I still contend that the wall was blown out.

what was the map location of that car?

just to verify at pentagon on 9/11 morning.

[SPreston]

looks like another case of flying lightpole.

you think so?

How come?

Nah, cannot be a lightpole. We all know that light poles are very careful with the paint finish. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
(IMG:http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/PentCar8029-full.jpg)

This sounds a lot like the account of Daryl Donley:

"Also you can see in the road, possibly, all the, umm, debris from the Pentagon—there’s lots of cement chunks in the road."

I still contend that the wall was blown out.

what was the map location of that car?

just to verify at pentagon on 9/11 morning.

Don't know where that photo was taken. According to the eyewitness accounts, Daryl Donley was "presumably on road in front of Pentagon". Daryl Donley did claim in reference to his famous 'plasma' explosion photo, that “This is a secondary explosion, 4 min after impact…” (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)

The fireball seen is typical of a plasma-type reaction of a depleted-Uranium warhead
(IMG:http://www.911exposed.org/Missile_files/image030.jpg) (IMG:http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0209/images/sept11_7.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.attivissimo.net/11settembre/recensioni/daryl_donley_01750r.jpg)

Why was the strongest blast at 9:43 a.m., isolated at the Pentagon’s Navy Command Center?

The only U.S. Navy Command Center survivor, Lieutenant Kevin Shaeffer, claimed:

[At exactly 0943], the entire command center exploded in a gigantic orange fireball, and I felt myself being slammed to the deck by a massive and thunderous shock wave.  It felt to me as if the blast started at the outer wall, blowing me forward toward Commander Dunn’s desk.  I never lost consciousness, and though the entire space was pitch black, I sensed I was on fire…19

The blast at the Navy Command Center was several minutes later than the initial blast and this is collaborated by a Daryl Donley who claimed (in reference to his photo), “This is a secondary explosion, 4 min after impact…”
http://911exposed.org/Attack1.htm

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

Spreston,

We MUST stop the conjecture with missiles (and small drone planes). It convolutes the message and creates an easy strawman argument.

The plane was on the north side of the citgo and Robert Turcios saw it pull up.

That is all that matters at this point.

[SPreston]

Spreston,

We MUST stop the conjecture with missiles (and small drone planes). It convolutes the message and creates an easy strawman argument.

The plane was on the north side of the citgo and Robert Turcios saw it pull up.

That is all that matters at this point.

We need to dig out all the evidence and determine if explosives alone, or a Tomahawk missile or a small drone aircraft along with planted explosives did the damage to the Pentagon and killed all the targeted people. We know for a fact that Flight 77 could not have hit the Pentagon and we know that a 757 or similar aircraft flew north of the Citgo and apparently did a flyover. We know that the clocks stopped at 9:32 - 5 to 11 minutes before something officially slammed into the Pentagon. We know that according to the security videos, a high explosive with a bright white flash hit the Pentagon - not a red/yellow/orange jet fuel explosion. Jet fuel cannot burn or flash at a white heat level. We know that we have been lied to repeatedly by the Bush Regime and the FBI. We do not need to remain stalled on the north of Citgo issue alone. There are hundreds of fissures in the 9-11 fantasy event and they all need to be pried wide open. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

Well, you'll get no support from me on it. It is needless conjecture and makes my job harder.

People DID NOT see a global hawk or small military plane. People DID NOT see a missile.

It was not there. You are creating a fantasy that does not have to exist. You want to go out and find support for this by critically analysing all the evidence and interviewing people, I am all for it.

But look how much sh*t we get just for suggesting a flyover. Why would you convolute the message?

Please, we have done the missile, the global hawk. The sh*t was all a ploy. It kept us busy doing nothing but theorizing which simply lends to this.

When you say "stalled", do you think that creating more conspiracy theories is going to "unstall it"?

We are not stalled. We are outnumbered. And it frustrates me that an ardent supporter who seems to get it, is going off on needless conspiracy theories that have already been debunked.

Why did we even go out there if you were all going to go back to theorizing, like what we researched and actually investigated doesn't even matter?

We have enough evidence to start focusing the magnifying glass.

Please think about what you are doing.

This post has been edited by Aldo Marquis CIT: Sep 11 2007, 02:24 PM

[SPreston]

Well, you'll get no support from me on it. It is needless conjecture and makes my job harder.

People DID NOT see a global hawk or small military plane. People DID NOT see a missile.

It was not there. You are creating a fantasy that does not have to exist. You want to go out and find support for this by critically analysing all the evidence and interviewing people, I am all for it.

But look how much sh*t we get just for suggesting a flyover. Why would you convolute the message?

Please, we have done the missile, the global hawk. The sh*t was all a ploy. It kept us busy doing nothing but theorizing which simply lends to this.

When you say "stalled", do you think that creating more conspiracy theories is going to "unstall it"?

We are not stalled. We are outnumbered. And it frustrates me that an ardent supporter who seems to get it, is going off on needless conspiracy theories that have already been debunked.

Why did we even go out there if you were all going to go back to theorizing, like what we researched and actually investigated doesn't even matter?

We have enough evidence to start focusing the magnifying glass.

Please think about what you are doing.

I brought out the factual times the clocks stopped inside the Pentagon and focused attention on that. That is not important? I've focused on many things which have not harmed the North of the Citgo flight path such as the fact that Reagan National was open all morning until the national order to ground all North American air traffic. I have focused on the fact that an aircraft as large as a 757 couldn't possibly have fit into the first floor area above the unmelted cable spools. How does that harm the North of Citgo flight path? I'm not pursuing a missile or Global Hawk or Skywarrior theory. I'm just commenting on them and helping to keep interest up. Many of these people who mostly support you guys have interests in these alternate theories. Since I am convinced that the two security videos were faked, then the white hot initial explosion which resembles a missile strike against the Pentagon is based on manufactured government evidence and not verifiable evidence. I will support the North of the Citgo flight path witness testimonies because they seem factual and I don't expect you or Craig to comment on these little sidelines. I am always thinking about what I am doing. If I return to the silly LC Forum, I will focus more on the North of the Citgo flight path there. These people here at PFT are much more open-minded and easier to get along with. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

[hturt]

Aldo, the North side appoarch evidence is rock solid, and the Fly Over is the logic conclusion if the plane didn't hit the building. This is assuming it was AA77 they saw. I think/hope on this site we can explore ideas, and not have to dig into trenches to defend from the disinfo. attacks.

I think your too use to being attacked in other forums.

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

Well, you'll get no support from me on it. It is needless conjecture and makes my job harder.

People DID NOT see a global hawk or small military plane. People DID NOT see a missile.

It was not there. You are creating a fantasy that does not have to exist. You want to go out and find support for this by critically analysing all the evidence and interviewing people, I am all for it.

But look how much sh*t we get just for suggesting a flyover. Why would you convolute the message?

Please, we have done the missile, the global hawk. The sh*t was all a ploy. It kept us busy doing nothing but theorizing which simply lends to this.

When you say "stalled", do you think that creating more conspiracy theories is going to "unstall it"?

We are not stalled. We are outnumbered. And it frustrates me that an ardent supporter who seems to get it, is going off on needless conspiracy theories that have already been debunked.

Why did we even go out there if you were all going to go back to theorizing, like what we researched and actually investigated doesn't even matter?

We have enough evidence to start focusing the magnifying glass.

Please think about what you are doing.

I brought out the factual times the clocks stopped inside the Pentagon and focused attention on that. That is not important? I've focused on many things which have not harmed the North of the Citgo flight path such as the fact that Reagan National was open all morning until the national order to ground all North American air traffic. I have focused on the fact that an aircraft as large as a 757 couldn't possibly have fit into the first floor area above the unmelted cable spools. How does that harm the North of Citgo flight path? I'm not pursuing a missile or Global Hawk or Skywarrior theory. I'm just commenting on them and helping to keep interest up. Many of these people who mostly support you guys have interests in these alternate theories. Since I am convinced that the two security videos were faked, then the white hot initial explosion which resembles a missile strike against the Pentagon is based on manufactured government evidence and not verifiable evidence. I will support the North of the Citgo flight path witness testimonies because they seem factual and I don't expect you or Craig to comment on these little sidelines. I am always thinking about what I am doing. If I return to the silly LC Forum, I will focus more on the North of the Citgo flight path there. These people here at PFT are much more open-minded and easier to get along with. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

I guess you are missing my point, and perhaps I am coming off as curt. I should have used a smilie.

I am merely suggesting that we should focus our energy into a beam.

Rob and us do not like being the only one who contacts the authorities and gov't officials.

We just want there to be action. We have enough answers to get the ball rolling.

The clocks are an interesting piece that has been around for a while., but a puzzling aspect that does not answer questions, only creates more. It is not conclusive. It has not got the gov't officials to think 9/11 was an inside job. Did you know Russell Pickering goes around saying that the hand fell to '32' because the clock fell of the wall. He does ignore that the little is pointing right to the spot it would if it were 9:32 on the clock, but I am sure he will contend that it too fell. Do you see where I am going here?

"I'm not pursuing a missile or Global Hawk or Skywarrior theory. I'm just commenting on them and helping to keep interest up."

Well I appreicate the effor and intent. But believe it or not, you are doing more harm than good. People tend to shut down when too much information (and conflicting/confusing info at that) is thrown at them. And it does make my job harder, when people are chanting 20 different theories. We are still speaking with witnesses and have two more North side witnesses, so we are far from stalled.

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

Aldo, the North side appoarch evidence is rock solid, and the Fly Over is the logic conclusion if the plane didn't hit the building. This is assuming it was AA77 they saw. I think/hope on this site we can explore ideas, and not have to dig into trenches to defend from the disinfo. attacks.

I think your too use to being attacked in other forums.

Yeah I am. I am just curt with people sometimes. My state of mind is all business now.

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

bump

[paranoia]

hey i have to run, and unfortunately i only found this "witness" and this thread about half an hour ago, but i wanted to add something:

the foxguy pronounces his name "el hallou", which is morrocan. so i looked him up, this is him:

http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?...y=&name_style=1


(scroll down about a third of the way)
http://www.wafin.com/archive.phtml?k=40&arttype=mom
clicking on his pic links to a picture of him cycling:

"I was born and raised in Oujda. I moved to Casablanca in my teenage years. I spent just about 5 years in the clothing design school in Caserta, close by Naples, in Italy. I immigrated to the U.S. in 1988 to start my own clothing business. In a career shift in 1997, I became the Sales Manager in Washington DC's “Martens Volvo,"  where I was involved mostly in marketing.

That is professionally speaking. My passion in life, though, is cyclism. I have been riding and racing since I was 15 years old. I did win the Moroccan championship in 1982, thanks to the help of Mustapha Najarri, Souhayli, Ait Oufkir and the coach, champ, and father, the late Hadj Memdouh, may he rest in peace.

I am currently still racing with a semi-pro team in the DC area known as the Volvo Team. "

he is also a member here:
http://www.washingtonmoroccanclub.org/about.html


bottom of this page (is that his sister or wife? did he marry his "girlfriend"?):
"Fourteenth Annual AOL Time Warner Best Buddies Ball"
http://www.washingtonlife.com/backissues/a...est_buddies.htm


image #21 here (left hand column):
http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.as...n%20Binn&nbc1=1
caption: Mounia Elhallou and Aziz Elhallou at Capitol File Magazine's Holiday Party hosted by Niche Media CEO Jason Binn and Mira Sorvino at The Park at Fourteenth on Novermber 27, 2007 in Washington, DC


montgomery county home sold:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...004Sep22_5.html
WICKSHIRE WAY, 11030, No. B-1-Richard J. and Mary Anne Schoeb to Sara Ouardighi and Aziz Elhallou, $549,000.


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so far thats all i turned up, but it was a very superficial search. i was hoping it might be of some use for further digging. i'll probably dig into it later today myself, but help is always appreciated!

(IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/yes1.gif)

This post has been edited by paranoia: Dec 29 2007, 07:30 AM

[Craig Ranke CIT]

Wow!

Excellent work bro.

It's good having you back around.

I wonder why he is at so many red carpet events even though he is supposedly a sales manager at volvo.

And why would he be at the Navy Annex at all?

Very strange.

Man I wish we knew all this when we were in town.

We would have soooo ambushed him with a camera or audio recorder!

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

Good stuff man. At least we know he is a real person and not just some made up identity. I am glad you were able to get his name, because I would have never figured out the spelling of it.

[paranoia]

Wow!

Excellent work bro.

It's good having you back around.

I wonder why he is at so many red carpet events even though he is supposedly a sales manager at volvo.

And why would he be at the Navy Annex at all?

Very strange.

Man I wish we knew all this when we were in town.

We would have soooo ambushed him with a camera or audio recorder!

Good stuff man. At least we know he is a real person and not just some made up identity. I am glad you were able to get his name, because I would have never figured out the spelling of it.

hey guys, im sorry about getting back to this thread so late (too much multi-tasking and too many avenues of research lately). but i appreciate the props, and im always glad to contribute. its great to see the progress u guys are making, and im looking forward to the next chapter.

regarding the blacktie event, i found that although time-warner hosted the event that year, the "best buddies" thing is actually founded by Anthony Kennedy Shriver (related to governor ahnold'z wife - maria shriver):

about "best buddies":
http://www.bestbuddies.org/site/c.ljJ0J8MN...est_Buddies.htm

"Best Buddies ® is a nonprofit 501©(3) organization dedicated to enhancing the lives of people with intellectual disabilities by providing opportunities for one-to-one friendships and integrated employment.

Founded in 1989 by Anthony Kennedy Shriver, Best Buddies is a vibrant, international organization that has grown from one original chapter to more than 1,300 middle school, high school, and college campuses across the country and internationally."

they actually have a cycling event every year, that audi and volvo are involved in:
http://www.kintera.org/faf/home/default.asp?ievent=104309

The Volvo Hyannis Port Challenge is a unique cycling event, offering participants an unforgettable ride experience from the JFK Library in Boston to the Kennedy Compound in Hyannis Port.

here is how aziz apparently became involved in the event, as a cycling coach:
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/articl...aper=73&cat=104

"A gang of bikers, mostly female, has been tearing up the trails around Vienna for the last few months. About 12 local women and a few local men are training themselves in preparation for a 90-mile ride, from JFK Library in Boston to the Kennedy Compound on Cape Cod. The ride, set for May 20, is Volvo's Hyannis Port Challenge, held to raise money for Best Buddies, an international organization that works to establish friendships between volunteers and those with intellectual disabilities."

"Last weekend, Team Best Buddies Virginia went to Bethany Beach to make a 72-mile ride — their longest yet. They are also currently the highest-earning of the 46 registered teams, with more than $35,000 pledged — almost $10,000 more than the second-ranked team — and they are still fund-raising.

"None of us knew what we were doing," said Susan Garvey, state director for the Best Buddies program in Virginia and member of the bike team. So, when they were first starting, she contacted Aziz Elhallou, the winner of last year's Hyannis Port ride, and asked him to coach the team. Since then, she said, he has been teaching them when to shift gears, how to ride each other's drafts and other tricks of the trade. "He's been awesome," said Garvey.

amount of money raised (aziz is a cheap bastard - 50 bucks was the cost of entry):
http://www.kintera.org/faf/search/searchTe...EC&team=1194320

other "best buddy" events:
http://www.bestbuddies.org/site/c.ljJ0J8MN...onal_Events.htm



he is also on Don Beyer's cyclingteam:
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Eaix7...clnk&cd=1&gl=us


Don Beyer is major big whig around here. his bio:
http://www.virginiaeconomicbridge.org/Orga...onald_Beyer.htm

Donald S. Beyer, Jr. was elected Lieutenant Governor of Virginia in 1989 and served until 1998. In that capacity, he presided over the Virginia Senate, earning the reputation as the most activist President of the Senate in Virginia history.

Mr. Beyer has served on the Virginia Board of First Union National Bank and the board of Shenandoah Life Insurance Company, based in Roanoke. He is currently on the board of Lightly Expressed, a fiber optic lighting design and manufacturing firm. Since his return to private life, he has grown the family business to a chain of dealerships including Land Rover, Subaru and three Volvo stores. He serves on the Volvo International Product Development team and his businesses are regularly honored with the esteemed "Dealer of Excellence" award.

Mr. Beyer is a member of the Northern Virginia Business Roundtable and the Northern Virginia High Tech Council, which he co-founded. He currently serves on the boards of Youth for Tomorrow, the Washington Community Foundation, and the Red Cross. He and his family attend Christ Church in Alexandria, where Mr. Beyer serves as Chairman of the Outreach Subcommittee.

there is no indication that aziz's connection to the beyer team has anything to do with anything other than cycling, plus he DID work for Volvo at one point, so that maybe how he became involved with team beyer. but with such limited information about aziz overall, i thought it was worthy background information.


speaking of employment, he used to work for martens volvo, but he is currently no longer listed as a marten's volvo employee:
http://www.martensvolvo.com/General-Staff.aspx

you can probably find him here instead (herb gordon's auto):
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:IZDO7...lnk&cd=14&gl=us


his employment at martens is mentioned here in a donation to Sandhills Political Action Committee in 2007 (to senator Chuck Hagel):
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/con...52.asp?cycle=08

or here:
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:RwYMl...n&gl=us&strip=1

Elhallou, Aziz Mr. Martens Volvo/Sales Manager $250 03/30/2007 P SANDHILLS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE

other info that turned up- i found chef hicham (aziz's brother) here:
http://www.dcinternational.org/felisnavidad22dec2007.html

"Who is Hugo Chavez? Proletarian hero or leftis demagogue intent on replacing Fidel Castro? How will his defeat at the polls affect his political ambitions?

Join us on Saturday 22nd December, for an informative, fun filled evening and share the joys this season brings. Our Special guest, Dr Angelo Rivero-Santos, Minister Counselor, Political Affairs of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela will share with us at the party.
Buffet Dinner

DCIC will provide all food, drinks and desert for this event. We will be having a very special buffet dinner with an array of world dishes prepared by none other than Master Chef, Hicham Elhallou."

hicham's myspace (includes pics of brother aziz):
http://www.myspace.com/hichamdc

"I was born and raised in Morocco (oudja) and i grow up in casablanca.i been in the states for almost 11years i work in restaurant business by the capitol area as manager and sometimes as the chef graduate from Academy the cuisine MD.i play OUUUD time to time enjoy going out in Washington 1223 fly lima modern...... if you wanna know more you know what to do.... CIAO"

bike race with brother:
http://www.slide.com/s/KAqYmiB7zT-iagpObLElOdjn5nFuAZRN

aziz's wedding:
http://www.slide.com/s/VBTC7OalyD9zM8sWV0r8txLUAO23VMx5



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back to the earlier pics of aziz at the blacktie event where aziz and a lady are pictured with "Simon Jacobsen" and "Toni Glickman":
http://www.washingtonlife.com/backissues/a...est_buddies.htm

again- with such limited info overall, i could only dig so far. so i preface the following with a disclaimer: although there is no evidence of any direct ties between the people in the picture (other than commingling at a party together), nor any implication inferred about any wrong-doing - even if there are direct ties between such parties, i thought it might be interesting to know the backgrounds of the people aziz is pictured with. so at best most of the following is trivial, but i found it interesting (and somewhat informative about the local elite) none the less.

simon jacobsen:
http://www.hughjacobsen.com/ContactSimonJacobsen.html
http://www.hughjacobsen.com/SimonJacobsen.htm

"Simon Jacobsen is son of Hugh Jacobsen and CEO of the design firm. Overseeing collaboratively and independently on projects in North America, Europe and the Caribbean."

"Simon Jacobsen has been with the company professionally for 12 years, but has worked for the firm off and on since he was 13.

Jacobsen supervises 20 architects and support staff and is involved in every Jacobsen project. He has a BA from Bardford College and holds a Master of Architecture from The Chicago School of Architecture (UIC). He also serves as a visiting academic critic to the school of architecture of The Catholic University with Suzane Reatig, Architect."

jacobsen is a member of a super secretive group of elite calling themselves the "Georgetown Club":
http://www.georgetownleague.info/
http://www.georgetownleague.info/NewsAnnouncements.html

"The Georgetown Media Group who owns the The Georgetowner approached two members at Café Milano this week to seek an interview and gain information on the country's oldest and exclusive sporting club.

Section 4.2.3.1 of the rules of the club only permit an officer to speak to the media if the following information is represented in some kind of convincing way:

1. The club is 700 years old.

2. Its primary purpose is to promote interpretive dance.
Under no circumstances are names to be given of members or the size of the organization.

The interview, which may take place in the fall, will undoubtedly be short as soon as the paper realizes that not even the name of the chairman can be revealed."

but they inadvertently out him as a member several times throughout the newsletter:

Mr. Carlson was admitted for membership through Simon Jacobsen who saw him on the street one day

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MEMBER NEWS:
Jacobsen's ('06) captive-wife delivers 7 lb 7 oz. baby boy.
Father assumes child's identity and ruins credit.
On February 8th, 2007 at 12:23 p.m. at Sibly Hospital, Ruth and Simon Jacobsen acquired Hugh Mitchell Newell Jacobsen, at 20 inches long and weighing 7.7 pounds.

moving on to jacobsen's wife, toni glickman (pictured with aziz and co.):
jacobsen's marriage to glickman:
http://www.washingtonlife.com/backissues/a...ar/weddings.htm

"Toni Glickman and Simon Jacobsen were married on May 6, 2000 in theWest Garden of Tudor Place. The bride is the daughter of Sharon Glickman.The groom is the son of Mr. & Mrs. Hugh Newell Jacobsen. The bride wasgiven away by her uncles Norman Glickman, and former Secretary ofAgriculture Dan Glickman."

"The ceremony, led by Federal Judge Paul Friedman, was attended by twohundred and sixty guests from around the country as well as Europe. Some ofthe guests included NBC’s Chip Reid, Congressman Ed Markey (D-Mass), Admiral Susan Blumenthal, Max & Heidi Barry, Castlerock Entertainment President Liz Glotzer Jacobsen, and Jon Glickman, President of Spyglass Films."

her uncle, Dan Glickman, is another bigtime big whig, with major intelligence community affiliations:
http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/819.html

"Glickman’s DC career began in 1976 when he was elected to the House from Kansas. He served as secretary of Agriculture under President Clinton..."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...754C0A962958260

This year the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Representative Dan Glickman, Democrat of Kansas, sponsored a bill to let him publish the black budget. The House voted it down, 221 to 194, on Tuesday night. Today it approved spending the secret funds.

http://www.washingtonflyer.com/article/200...y/Leading%20Man

"...former nine-term congressman from Kansas, former director of the Institute of Politics at Harvard’s John F. Kennedy School of Government and, since 2004, successor to the legendary Jack Valenti as CEO of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)..."

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:7P4vp...lnk&cd=12&gl=us

"Secretary Glickman serves on the board of directors of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange; Communities in Schools; America's Second Harvest; Food Research and Action Center; RFK Memorial Foundation; and The Farm Foundation. He is a member of the Board of Advisors of the Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health in New York City. He is also on the International Advisory Board of The Coca-Cola Company; co-chairs the U.S. Consensus Council (with former Governor Marc Racicot) and The Pew Initiative on Food and Biotechnology (with former Congressman Vin Weber). He has been a senior fellow and part-time instructor in the public policy departments at Georgetown University and Wichita State University."

congressional record of INTELLIGENCE BUDGET (Senate - April 21, 1993) hearing:
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1993_cr/s930421-budget.htm

very informative political bio of glickman (ex-republican):
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Glickman-C...med-Ag-Secy.htm



his son Johnathon Glickman is CEO of Spyglass Films which did CIA movies like "The Recruit":
http://www.spyglassentertainment.com/movie...es/library.html

"Jonathan Glickman, President, is responsible for the development and production of all Spyglass Entertainment films. In 1993, Glickman joined Caravan Pictures as an intern and by 1997 he had worked his way up to President of the company. "

so all in all, thats quite some company aziz keeps- if he does indeed have any dealings with the people he was pictured with at the best buddies ball.

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in closing, lets get back to aziz and the pentagon. peoplefinder makes mention of an arlington address for him:
http://www.peoplefinders.com/Summary.asp?f...=&doby=&x=0&y=0
but u have to pay to find out what address it is or was. the other sources (and i tried many spellings of his name) did NOT list any arlington address for him. so i guess the next step is to find out that arlington address and see how it fits into his story about his whereabouts on 911.

and then contact him (maybe?):

(this cached link includes an email addy for him - at top of the page)
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:IZDO7...lnk&cd=14&gl=us

or

http://www.herbgordonvolvoofsilverspring.c...rtment-New.aspx



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whew! i hope that explains why i have been putting this thread off for awhile. i was overwhelmed by trying to organize all the info into a post, plus i had to weed out about a third of the info i had cuz it wasnt really all that relevant.

but i hope that the above is of some help to our (collective) efforts. lets see what aziz can reveal, who knows? maybe he still has that piece of "flight 77", huh?

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This post has been edited by paranoia: Jan 6 2008, 05:10 AM