Thrive, documentary to be released in November Options

[bill]

[GroundPounder]

fwiw, i liked that. still waiting for the hundreth monkey...

[lunk]

A movie about everything, with everyone!
i wonder how long it will be...

If free energy is available to everyone, the entire control-grid system fails.

Though, how long would the world last if everyone had infinite power, and could control it to their whim?

There needs to be some sort of foundational universally preferred behavior that is enthusiastically accepted by everyone,
...like just being nice to each other.

Or perhaps, as Stefan Molyneux thinks, the non initiation of force.

If war is created by deception,
reverse logic tells me,
that peace can only be achieved with the truth.

[GroundPounder]

a rebuttal:


http://cryptogon.com/?p=25911

[bill]

GP

I think guilt by association is a stretch here

But who knows -- I ordered the DVD this morning -- should be an interesting view

this is from the Thrive website -- authored by Foster Gamble

http://thrivemovement.com/the_problem-gda

quote

he notion of intentional depopulation is difficult to consider. I wrestled with whether to include it in the film and on this site. I am taking the risk of discussing it because I believe that we will not be sufficiently astute in our assessment of what is going on until we allow for the possibility of this perverse reality. Food and water additives, aerial spraying, contaminated vaccines, man-made weather catastrophes through HAARP, and endless wars look different through the lens of depopulation, and the dangers – and our responses to them – can become more informed and leveraged when we dare to face the documented evidence that exists beneath the lies we are told. See the Resource Tree at the bottom of this page for books and links to facilitate your own inquiry.
Eugenics and de-population programs were initiated by powerful families including the Rockefellers, Carnegies and Harrimans at the beginning of the 20th century. Their work inspired later dictators like Adolph Hitler to cull undesirable portions of the populace.[5]

We have been schooled to focus on Hitler as a unique madman who somehow got control of a whole nation by himself, but as is usually the case, it is well documented that Hitler was himself a puppet figure for the international banking cabal that wanted to overthrow Stalin.[6]

The genocidal agenda of the Nazis was forced underground after the defeat of the Germans and their convictions at the Nuremburg trials, but a similar agenda is re-surfacing all around the world in less obvious forms of aggressive elimination of large numbers of people.[7] In fact, many Nazi rocket scientist and mind control experimenters were brought to America under a covert CIA program called Operation Paperclip.[8]



The anonymously created Georgia Guidestones in Elbert County, Georgia, USA, have enshrined the idea that 500 million people is the number that the Earth can sustain.[9]

What methods might the elite be using to involuntarily get rid of people? My research leads me to believe that the vast amount of illness, sterility and death due to the following human created afflictions is no accident:

•Irradiation from nuclear plants, depleted uranium weapons, food scanners, airport scanners, cell towers, “smart” meters etc.
•Fluoride in our water (The Fluoride Deception, Bryson, Christopher and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHo)
•Toxic Chemtrails (What On Earth Are They Spraying DVD; www.carnicom.com)
•Destructive EM waves (HAARP) in our atmosphere (See Environment Critical Issue section on HAARP)
•man-made weather catastrophes, earthquakes and volcanos and tsunamis (See Environment Critical Issue section on HAARP)
•Dangerous pharmaceuticals in our bodies and in our waterways
•Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs) in our foods (Seeds of Destruction, Engdahl, F. William)
•Continual wars of aggression
•Lethal IMF and World Bank “austerity policies” (The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, Palast, Greg)
•Man-made pandemics like the Swine Flu, Lyme Disease (Lab 257. Carroll, Michael C.) and AIDS (DNA: Pirates of the Sacres Spiral, Horowitz, Dr. Leonard)
•Toxic and sterilizing vaccines like the anti-tetanus one laced with B-hCG, which when given in a vaccine, undermines women’s ability to sustain a pregnancy. The whistle has been blown on this type of covert sterilization in Mexico, the Phillipines, Puerto Rico and various countries in Africa. The dissemination of this vaccine was initiated by the Rockefeller founded Population Council and promoted through UNICEF, with funding from organizations like the Gates Foundation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VG4WibFBPs) and Procter & Gamble (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message760430/pg1).
The tragic irony, to me, is that evidence is strong that populations tend to stabilize when they have access to prosperity and education, not when they are undermined or attacked.

[GroundPounder]

bill,

look forward to hearing your review of the dvd. like i said, i liked the trailer. i read through the link you provided and it was a decent thorough compilation. i don't know anything about foster gamble or his motivations (ostensible or otherwise). i can't imagine he is hurting for money. i have lots of ideas about proctor & gamble however. none of them really good. i don't know how much the phrase, 'the apple doesn't fall far from the tree' applies to this guy. on the one hand, having peeled through so many layers of the onion and discovering one control mechanism after another, i've got a bit of shell shock. the flip side is that perhaps the evil is undoing itself as many have predicted.

so for now, guarded optimism.

[bill]

so for now, guarded optimism



Me too

[lunk]

Not sure if this is about free energy or population reduction or both, and more.
It sure looks pretty slickly produced, many big names.

On free energy, yes, i think that, because the universe exists, at any moment in time, such as now, that there must be free energy, or we wouldn't be here.

On population "reduction",
The theory of evolution, demands that the dominant will only survive if they are not overpopulated by the submissive.

As the environment changes, life-forms adapt or perish.
Todays' "environment" has been changed from nature, to economic.
A monetary value can be (and probably has been) assigned to everything and everybody,
that somehow is interpreted as superseding nature.

Ethics, morals, common sense and decency, goes out the window, when it comes to the acquisition of wealth by any and all means,
as the key to survival of the richest,
who, in my opinion, are not likely to be the fittest, with these qualifications, to be "guiding" humanity, into our future.

The whole existing system is corrupt, and tailored for the corrupt to rise to the top of control over others.

Yes, if free energy were available to everyone,
this existing system would fall like a card house.

i have had some success with free energy, i think.
i heated over 300 gallons of water up about 100F in 4 days with only the 15% of .6 hp submersible pump (85% efficient), in electric heat energy.

(in other words, the water heated up more, than the (heat) energy that went into warming it)

[whiteknight]

not bad rented it for 5 bucks
http://www.thrivemovement.com/

[André]

Full documentory here, I don't know how long it will be posted.
Run time: 128:40



http://youtu.be/kdGi6Q3N9tY

[GroundPounder]

EXCEPTIONAL !!

thanks for posting the link andre!

bill, thanks for getting this thread going!

[bill]

The website is very good --massive amount of information and back documentation

I like the video very much -- I don't think anything new or revolutionary to me but I think that having the 'whole magilla' in one 2 hour view is an amazing accomplishment.

I think it was an excelent balance that will capture a lot of people that are 'on the fence' on the "wild conspiracy theories"

When we start seeing Thrive T shirts everywhere we'll know it is working

I can add my 2 cents about at least one thing mentioned

I built a Bedini charger from a kit -- it works, it is real --the Bedini charger is a genuine over unity device

more energy is created than it uses

[onesliceshort]

The cancer "cures" (haven't looked into it yet) is an eye-opener too.

Nice vid (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

This post has been edited by onesliceshort: Nov 16 2011, 10:10 PM

[GroundPounder]

I built a Bedini charger from a kit -- it works, it is real --the Bedini charger is a genuine over unity device

more energy is created than it uses

do you have a link for the bedini kit?

[GroundPounder]

a dissenting opinion:

http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/...hriving-at.html

it's funny, i found it hopeful. my son watched it and liked it, but thought it was 50-50 because of all the problems it showed existing. the above link seems to feel that it is another mindjob. the comments seem to lean in that direction as well. one primary issue was the one eye being exposed from underneath the blindfold...sort of illuminati style.

of course, if i find out that kimberly hasn't really had any family members with cancer, i'll feel like an idiot. that would be like the kuwaiti girl lying about the incubator babies.

so jury, what is the verdict?

[bill]

GP

here is a link to the kit I built


http://www.r-charge.com/New-Bedini-3-Pole-...rame_p_122.html

[André]

so jury, what is the verdict?

Wasn't going to comment but since you ask, I did not like it much, I think it lacked cohesiveness, sort of patched together, it might be useful in waking up the average person and it did put out some good info but it's all things that WE are already aware of. There was also that ideological slant in the end, dealing with labels without really understanding the meaning that rub me the wrong way.

[GroundPounder]

GP

here is a link to the kit I built


http://www.r-charge.com/New-Bedini-3-Pole-...rame_p_122.html

thanks bill. there wasn't a lot of description on the page. you use it to charge batteries? any other info?

[bill]

It is basically a 'demo model'
'
It charges batteries and produces more energy than it uses from the 'running battery'

It is not something that yuou can get useful energy from (well OK one could use it to charge small batteries)

They have the '10 coiler' that will indeed produce useful amount of energy to charge medium to large batteries

I wanted to build a demonstration level device -- and it worked as advertised, so I have little doubt the bigger versions work as well

To me this is proof that there is censorship of patents that could revolutionize the energy paradigm

there are others too, Tom Bearden at

http://cheniere.org/

who has worked with John Bedini has patented over unity devices

The Bedini '10 coiler' is expensive as a kit but could be hand built reletively cheap -- if you're handy

[GroundPounder]

Wasn't going to comment but since you ask, I did not like it much, I think it lacked cohesiveness, sort of patched together, it might be useful in waking up the average person and it did put out some good info but it's all things that WE are already aware of. There was also that ideological slant in the end, dealing with labels without really understanding the meaning that rub me the wrong way.

valid points.

It is basically a 'demo model'
'
It charges batteries and produces more energy than it uses from the 'running battery'

It is not something that yuou can get useful energy from (well OK one could use it to charge small batteries)

They have the '10 coiler' that will indeed produce useful amount of energy to charge medium to large batteries

I wanted to build a demonstration level device -- and it worked as advertised, so I have little doubt the bigger versions work as well

To me this is proof that there is censorship of patents that could revolutionize the energy paradigm

there are others too, Tom Bearden at

http://cheniere.org/

who has worked with John Bedini has patented over unity devices

The Bedini '10 coiler' is expensive as a kit but could be hand built reletively cheap -- if you're handy

thanks for the info bill.