Bomb At Government Headquarters/oslo, Norway Options

[Devilsadvocate]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

"I can feel a very serious distraction being plotted behind the scenes to bury this (or maybe that's the paranoid android in me!"

(Onesliceshort, just a few hours ago in this thread:)

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...60&start=60

This post has been edited by Devilsadvocate: Jul 22 2011, 12:53 PM

[Ricochet]

Norway is pulling out of Libiya and recognizing Palistine. I wonder who got pissed off with these antics?

[GroundPounder]

Norway is pulling out of Libiya and recognizing Palistine. I wonder who got pissed off with these antics?

rhetorical question?

[onesliceshort]

Here we go..

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/eu...tml?_r=1&hp

A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami (the Helpers of the Global Jihad), issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at CNA, a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces' presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad. "We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations," the group said, apparently referred to a bombing in Sweden in December 2010, according to Mr McCants' translation. "What you see is only the beginning, and there is more to come." The claim could not be confirmed.

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7723132

Witnesses who have managed to escape from the island, says to NRK reporters on the spot that the perpetrator had a Norwegian look. He should be between 185 to 190 cm tall and have blond hair

http://www.jihadica.com/alleged-claim-for-oslo-attacks/

Update: Abu Sulayman has now issued a retraction, stating clearly that “Helpers” was not involved in the operation and that his statement was not an official statement. He says those who carried out the attacks “must surely be known to all.”

This just a few weeks after one of the most silenced, propaganda ripe events ( an alleged suicide attack on a hospital in Afghanistan) that I can remember:

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/25/wo...e-bomb-20110626

Many of the dead and wounded were women and children, Darwaish said. A Taliban spokesman told the Associated Press that the insurgency denied responsibility for the attack.

Sloppiness or arrogance?

[Devilsadvocate]

I just used an online Babylon-translation-tool on the first paragraph of that Norwegian article:

From what I can make out, I think the police know the identity of the shooter; according to eyewitnesses, he told the older youths on Utøya "Come here", and then practically executed them.
I'm not sure (the translation-tool leaves a lot of gaps), but I think he also said something like "This is only the beginning".

[Ricochet]

Another hint,

Norway has excluded Isareli investments. As Haaertz reported last year: Norway’s 450 billion euro oil-riches fund has excluded two Israeli firms involved in developing settlements ... on ethical grounds, Norway’s finance ministry said on Monday.

[onesliceshort]

They're shifting the blame to an extreme-right faction a la Timothy McVeigh

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7723368

Professor Tore Bjørgo at the Police College said earlier tonight that these bloody attacks can come from other communities than Islamist - not least because witnesses Utøya says that the man who shot at people wearing police clothes, had a Nordic look. In addition, the attack directed against a political youth organization.

- I have consistently kept the possibility open that this might be the extreme-right, says Bjørgo.

Get this...

There was a shooting-incident in Norway at the same time as the bombs; the shooter was apparently arrested.
My guess would be that he'll be identified as a nut-case and spends some time in a menthal institution.

From the above source..

The renowned Swedish terrorism expert Magnus Searches Torp said earlier today that this appeared to be Al Qaeda's work . Later he changed his mind.

- Had it only been a bombing, it would be natural to connect it to Islamic extremism. Now we have shootings at the Labour Party's youth as well, and it changes the whole picture, says Searches Torp to the Swedish news agency TT.

He believes that this simply may be a single crazy person's work, he says.

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[Devilsadvocate]

This guy was apparently armed with at least one hand-gun and an automatic weapon. Had he still carried that when he was confronted by police- he would almost certainly have been shot, so he must have dropped that once the magazine was empty.
Instead he was arrested: Must have dropped the hand-gun the moment the police turned up.

...Just how many journalists still talk about Rupert at this point...?

10? 20?? 30??? None????

My guess would be the last option... Inevitably. They HAVE to report the Oslo-attacks.

And that is exactly the point...

[Devilsadvocate]

(CNN) -- A 32-year-old Norwegian man was in custody, officials said Friday, after two attacks earlier in the day that killed at least 17 people -- attacks police said are definitely linked.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/0...rway.explosion/

[onesliceshort]

Apparently this guy who was dressed as a cop commandeered a boat which was being used by the Labour Party members according to a witness I just heard on TV.

The number of fatalities is from 17 (confirmed by police) to 30 (some are thought to have drowned trying to swim to the mainland)

They're (MSM) trying to pin both the bombings and the shootings on this guy (a 32 year old). It's also claimed that explosives were found on the island. One guy organized all of this? Bullshit.

It looks like there were multiple timed bombings in Oslo (IMO) and then this one guy hopped on a boat armed to the hilt?

Yeah, that's it DA. Murdoch has got his escape route handed to him on a plate. I'm not saying that these attacks are linked to the Murdoch circus but f***, timing or what?

[onesliceshort]

Look what headline Murdoch's newspaper "The Sun" is running with:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/lar...cHEOhf67WDU0%3D

[Devilsadvocate]

As I said in the other thread-- Murdoch is just the visible face.
But his empire is the key to power for those who are behind him. If this empire collapses, they lose their control over the media- meaning that journalists would actually start to ask real questions...

That's the problem:
If there would be any way of proving this kind of thing, these guys would become pretty aggressive in their methods of sweeping stuff under the carpet.
If "created" stories won't work, they might take to more 'unusual' means.
After all, controlling the media is the secret of their power; they'd want to protect that at all cost.

(Pardon for quoting myself- post nr.3)

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...t=0&start=0

[albertchampion]

take a deep breath. pour yourself an adult beverage. throttle back. watch. listen. read. over the week-end.

then let's reconvene after we learn some more.

at the moment, it is all just chaff.

[DoYouEverWonder]

At least he was polite enough to do it on a holiday when there were fewer people downtown.

It should be considered a hate crime, whenever the media makes false claims about 'al CIAda' every time something goes boom.

[DoYouEverWonder]

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Oh here's a new twist. He's a Julian Assange look-a-like .

[mrmitosis]

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Oh here's a new twist. He's a Julian Assange look-a-like .

He also bears a passing resemblance to Martin Bryant, who was blamed for the Port Arthur Massacre in Tasmania, 15 years ago.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=htt...ved=0CD0Q9QEwBA

Sorry for the hilariously long link.

This post has been edited by mrmitosis: Jul 22 2011, 09:10 PM

[Devilsadvocate]

At least he was polite enough to do it on a holiday when there were fewer people downtown.

It should be considered a hate crime, whenever the media makes false claims about 'al CIAda' every time something goes boom.

Strange, isn't it? The BBC-Life feed contains the following:

2211: Gordon Corera Security correspondent, BBC News

During the day, after an initial focus on an al-Qaeda link, the possibility of domestic extremism increasingly came into focus. The choice of targets - government buildings and a political youth rally - suggested a possible political agenda rather than the mass casualty approach typically employed by al-Qaeda.

If there was a political agenda- why pick a time during which few people are there?

This was designed for maximum effect-- media-effect, that is.

2228: Frank Gardner BBC security correspondent

2228: Frank Gardner BBC security correspondent

It's still very odd what would motivate someone to get hold of so much explosives - enough to devastate the centre of downtown Oslo - then travel 30 to 40 minutes northwest of there and start spraying people indisciminately and mercilessly.

And then he simply drops his gun and is arrested?

2158:

"We do not wish to confirm or deny any reports of groups taking responsibility for the attacks. We don't want to make the situation seem more serious than it is," the prime minister says.

2142:

"No one will bomb us to silence. No one wil shoot us to silence. No one will ever scare us away from beign Norway," Mr Stoltenberg says.
2143:

"You will not destroy us. You will not destroy our democracy or our ideals for a better world," Prime Minister Stolenberg adds.
2145:

The justice minister has just confirmed the suspect arrested today at the youth camp in Utoeya was Norwegian.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

[onesliceshort]

http://emptysuit.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/...graphic-photos/

The 32-year-old Norwegian man arrested for gunning down children on the holiday island of Utoya has been named locally as Anders Behring Breivik.

Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, who had been due to visit the island, told a Norwegian TV channel that the situation was critical.

Add the fact that the Norwegian Prime Minister was due to visit the island this weekend.

I'm trying to find more on the boat he allegedly commandeered. If was hired out privately, would there have been a timetable?

[Devilsadvocate]

Add the fact that the Norwegian Prime Minister was due to visit the island this weekend.

I'm trying to find more on the boat he allegedly commandeered. If was hired out privately, would there have been a timetable?

Earlier, I read somewhere that the island is linked to the mainland by ferry-- which would have to be a fairly small one, I'd say. If it was a private boat, a timetable is unlikely; perhaps for those attending the event on the island.
Although I would imagine that there may have been a timetable for the prime minister`s visit, available to the guests.

I'm certain that there are links between the attacks, the 'intelligence-aristocracy' and Rupert...
Unfortunately, the only people who could shed any light on that are Anders Breivik and the Norwegian government-- the former being unlikely to say anything at all, and the latter needing cojones the size of library-globes to openly say something like that...

[onesliceshort]

Take all of the news about this guy with a pinch of salt.

He was allegedly a registered Freemason in 2008

http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/prosjekt/frimure...ne/medlem/80189

Anders Behring was born in 1979 , the position of General Manager and Home Oslo

He is a member of the John lodge pillars

Behring, the degree of (hardworking St. John's apprentice) . Note that the information is taken from "matrikkel of the Norwegian Masonic Order 2008" and is therefore not an updated membership.

His name is listed here:

http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/prosjekt/frimurer/losjer/soilene

I see they've already pinned the double barrel name on him a la Harvey Oswald.

I agree with Albert. Wait and see. Though sometimes it's worth a trawl before things get 404ed.