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Sanders
post Oct 9 2007, 06:22 PM
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Cross of the Knights Templar



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post Mar 23 2008, 01:22 AM
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When someone is red with anger,
they're said to be cross.

Probably just coincidence.
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post Mar 29 2008, 01:50 PM
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why is the red cross aloud on both sides of enemy lines?

because usually both sides are funded by the same people. and people at the top...

red cross = freemason explains it all.
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post Mar 30 2008, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (THE_DECIDER @ Mar 29 2008, 10:50 AM) *
why is the red cross aloud on both sides of enemy lines?

because usually both sides are funded by the same people. and people at the top...

red cross = freemason explains it all.


Good point,
I never thought of that.

The perception of the world,
that we're brought up with,
is so veiled and backwards.
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post Mar 31 2008, 04:16 AM
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QUOTE (THE_DECIDER @ Mar 29 2008, 11:50 AM) *
because usually both sides are funded by the same people. and people at the top...

red cross = freemason explains it all.


Actually red cross = 'rose croix' or 'rosy cross' or Rosicrucian (but it ended up in one of those Scottish degrees and Templars somehow from what I've read).

But in the bigger scheme of things, 110- 111 [Volts AC] (whatever it takes wink.gif )
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post Mar 31 2008, 06:13 AM
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Hot Cross Bun. The bad Bun.

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As stated earlier, there are many sects of modern witchcraft today, and many variations found in their rituals. In some covens the cakes they use in their communion are made into the shape of a crescent, which is the symbol of the Moon-goddess. These cakes, by the way, are made of salt, honey, wine, meal, oil and, in some covens, blood. They are eaten in honour of the Egyptian god Horus [17] or whatever god the coven exalts.
In ancient witchcraft the cakes were round with a cross drawn on them that represented the first letter of the name of the ancient dead and risen pagan messiah "Tammuz," who was the incarnation of the Sun-god and the son of the Moon-goddess (the Queen of Heaven). Even the Israelites, when they turned from the worship of our Creator made these same cakes that honoured the pagan queen of Heaven and her god-child Tammuz. In Jeremiah 7:18 our Lord condemned this ancient ritual in the worship of these cosmic gods. "The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."
Today, the Roman Catholic Church dedicates these same cakes to the Virgin Mary whom they ironically call the Queen of Heaven [18]. These cakes are called by Roman Catholic "Hot Cross Buns" [19]. The name of this pagan goddess the Israelites worshipped and dedicated these cakes to is found in Judges 2:13. Her name to the Israelites was Ashtaroth. To the early Romans her name was Venus, the goddess of love.


Holy Roman crap cakes Batman.

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post Mar 31 2008, 02:25 PM
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The red cross has nothing to do with the Masons or the Rosicrucions or any other organisation except for the Red Cross. The flag, the Red Cross, was the reverse of the Swiss flag ( A white cross on a white field).This format was chosen because the Red Cross originated in Switzerland.
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post Mar 31 2008, 04:55 PM
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Switzerland, yes, neutrality means you can help both sides.
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post Mar 31 2008, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (Skeptik @ Mar 31 2008, 12:25 PM) *
The red cross has nothing to do with the Masons or the Rosicrucions or any other organisation except for the Red Cross.


Ummm, which "the Red Cross" do you mean? Here's a whole list of "other organizations" that have red crosses (and crescents, too.)

http://www.ifrc.org/address/rclinks.asp

This might be a little esoteric for some to catch the meaning here (but Sanders already did apparently).

If you look up the etymology of "rose," you will likely find that it is from the latin "rosa," which can mean many colors from pink to red (see rose wine, for example).

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rose [definition 3]

Ummm, here's a red cross AND a rose being used by the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry:

Masonic piece of jewelry of the "18° Knight of the Rose Croix" Scottish Rite (20th century image)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bijou_fm_18eme.jpg

Rosicrucian Fellowship Emblem

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rosicru...ship-emblem.jpg

What's up with these guys?
http://www.gnostique.net/studies/okrc.htm

Or this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Cross_color.png


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_Cross

Oh wait, that's awfully close to Aleistair Crowley's "Thoth" Tarot Deck (and a famous Hollyweird "religion's" cross) isn't it?


Of course "PAST GRAND MASTER ALEISTER CROWLEY, FRATER SUPERIOR BAPHOMET XI°" received his 33° Grand Inspector General of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in Mexico City.

http://skunks.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/ale...uman-sacrifice/

Crowley was also involved with the OTO and these guys:
http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/index.shtml

Check that red cross logo, and they have an interesting quote on their website: "That none of them should profess any other thing than to cure the sick, and that is gratis." - The First Rule of a Rosicrucian, Fama Fraternitatis. Also interesting that they are collecting for/link to:

http://www.redcross.org/donate/donate.html

Hmmmm...

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The flag, the Red Cross, was the reverse of the Swiss flag ( A white cross on a white field).This format was chosen because the Red Cross originated in Switzerland.


I think you might mean "originated in France."

" The International Federation was founded in 1919 in Paris in the aftermath of World War I. The war had shown a need for close cooperation between Red Cross Societies, which, through their humanitarian activities on behalf of prisoners of war and combatants, had attracted millions of volunteers and built a large body of expertise. A devastated Europe could not afford to lose such a resource.

It was Henry Davison, president of the American Red Cross War Committee, who proposed forming a federation of these National Societies. An international medical conference initiated by Davison resulted in the birth of the League of Red Cross Societies, which was renamed in October 1983 to the League of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, and then in November 1991 to become the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies."

http://www.ifrc.org/who/history.asp?navid=03_09

Of course, I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the latin phrase "sub rosa" has the following meanings whistle.gif :
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"adv.

In secret; privately or confidentially: held the meeting sub rosa.

[Latin sub rosā, under the rose (from the practice of hanging a rose over a meeting as a symbol of confidentiality) : sub, under + rosā, ablative of rosa, rose.]
subrosa sub-ro'sa (səb-rō'zə) adj.

adverb

In a secret way: clandestinely, covertly, huggermugger, secretly. Idioms: by stealth, on the sly, under cover. See show/hide.

adjective - sub-rosa

Existing or operating in a way so as to ensure complete concealment and confidentiality: clandestine, cloak-and-dagger, covert, huggermugger, secret, undercover. Informal hush-hush. Idioms: under wraps. See show/hide."
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http://www.answers.com/topic/sub-rosa

I could go on here, but next item:

crosses and crowns (linked to Sander's 1st pic, too).
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post Mar 31 2008, 10:46 PM
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Excellent post dmole,
guess I should have put the word "help" in quotations.
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