The Men Who Killed Kennedy - Merged Thread, Episodes 7-9 Options

[datars]

The driver was in on the assassination of JFK, but he had NO Part in shooting JFK. The shooter was in the storm Drain.

[WetBlanket]

It appears the driver knew what was going on but i can't see him shooting. Check this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-rcdBNFnGs

I have also seen another different film from the other side which doesn't jive exactly.

[CocaineImportAge...]

notice how Senator Connelly leans right back into the woman behind him a second before the fatal shot!... the shot came from front right of the President... then view the video full screen and see if you think the head of the man next the driver has been manipulated!... thats your assassin!... in my opinion!

[beatles64]

I don't know if I am completely sure about this...but I have a strong feeling that the Drain was were the bullet was fired...it just seems to make more sense that way in terms of cover, escape, and angle.....I don't have experience in any relative fields for this discussion though so I am just adding my two cents....hmm...I wonder how many pounds that would be?

[Nagelfar]

The chauffeur shot Kennedy?

Complete BS IMO. What a silly idea.

[jadenter]

The chauffeur shot Kennedy?

Complete BS IMO. What a silly idea.

If you don't see the limo driver shoot JFK in the two previous versions in this thread (Bill Cooper's, or Oliver Stone's), then watch the first four minutes of our P4T member Domenick DiMaggio CIT 's documentary titled Reichstag II. Watch William Greer, the limo driver, not JFK. It's at 3:53 minutes into the google video version.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=415613330467496030

Greer was not the only shooter in Dealey Plaza that day, but my money is on Greer as one of the shooters. The "pistol" over the limo driver's right shoulder occurs at the very instant when JFK's head goes back and explodes... "back and to the left".

Notice the sprocket portion of the Zapruder film in this version, that is missing from the other two (and most versions of the Zapruder Film). As most issues in JFK's assassination, the authentic copy as original, and possible tampering of the Zapruder film has been questioned by many experts.

Jeff

This post has been edited by jadenter: May 6 2008, 02:13 AM

[beatles64]

I don't know, somehow I got the original feeling that it was edited, than I watched more and that feeling went away, but that could have due to repeated views. I don't have the background for a true call anyways so dont mind me (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by beatles64: May 6 2008, 01:28 PM

[amazed!]

A friend of mine, retired from the FBI tells me that he once interviewed a fellow in prison for some other case, and that fellow claimed he shot JFK from the front, and that he had spent some time with Oswald, but they did not discuss an assassination, but other things.

The guy's name was James Files. I put it in Google, and it is an interesting story. Mob, all the way.

[Trapster]

There are several points of evidence that support the assertion that the Limo Driver was the shooter.

1) The video above showing the Driver turn his head toward JFK and fire the pistol with his left hand.

2) Just before the limo turns into Dealy Plaza, the President's secret service body guards who are running next to the limo are called off by the President's director of security.

3) The limo, as seen from other film shot at that moment, almost comes to a complete stop in front of the Grassy Knoll just as after other shots are fired into the limo and just before the President's head explodes. This was Greer taking his foot off the gas to give himself the moment to steady his shot. Slowing down and keeping the limo in a straight line is exactly the opposite of what the driver was trained to do.

4) The Secret Service director in Dallas on the radio moments after the assassination saying that 'they' finally 'got him'.

JFK was not the only Office Holder to end up assassinated in an open car. Recall a certain Arch Duke in Sarajevo in 1914. Yep, that too was a staged event.

[albertchampion]

you will never know the truth about this "hit".

all the evidence was destroyed, compromised.

for example, the limo was removed, then cleaned and repaired.

the chain of custody of the body was destroyed. the autopsy should have been performed at parkland, but the ss would not allow that.

there was never a definitive identification of the decedent.

and of course, the warren commission report was a complete fraud.

as i have written previously, the hit was collaborative[a conspiracy]. it was a collision of interests provoked by the assassinations of ngo dinh diem and ngo dinh nhu.

the armature for the collaboration was the opium/heroin trade. everyone involved in that traffic saw the events of 1-2/11/63[les fetes des morts - all souls day] as kennedy family attempts to take control of that trade.

never forget, the ngo family was at the top of the trade. they controlled the opium coming into cholon. coming into the corsican mafia that transmitted the opium to marseilles for refining.

who else saw themselves being cut out of the traffic by the removal of diem and nhu. well, their brother for one. ngo dinh thuc, the archbishop of hue[the first asian prelate of the catholic church]. the corsican mafia. the sicilian, jewish and neapolitan mafia[carlos marcello, santos trafficante, lucky luciana, gianni roselli, meyer lansky, sam giancana, carlos gambino, joe bonnano, et alia]. the vatican. the oas[organization armee secrete], comprised of officers in the post ww2 french indochina war, who were taking a piece of the action to finance their attempts to assassinate charles de gaulle.

and then there was the american ambassador to vietnam. who was the action officer for the ngo hits. henry cabot lodge. a massachusetts reptillian. with a long-term family tie to the opium trade. with long-term ties to what might be considered rogues[think bush family].

and then a host of intell services. fbi. cia. oni. mi6. sdece. and who knows how many were taking a piece of the opium/heroin traffic that they saw as being taken over by the family of a former bootlegger.

the final question remains, who was assassinated in dallas that day. john fitzgerald kennedy? or a double?

i personally think it was a double. principally because the decedent was never fingerprinted. and no investigation of the adrenals was conducted. the autopsists[not autopsists] were selected, ordered not to perform a definitive forensic investigation.

so, when did jfk really die? either before the election or shortly afterwards.

his brother's[rfk] hit, was another bit of revenge for the ngo brothers' hit. sirhan was another patsy.

teddy was supposed to die in a lightplane accident. and he almost did. and he was set up to drown at chappaquiddick. and he almost did.

i continue to think that ngo dinh thuc has been responsible. revenge for the deaths of his brothers.

thuc died in 1984.

[Carl Bank]

for example, the limo was removed, then cleaned and repaired.

As far as i know - and being a limo driver myselve, I learn a lot about that stuff - the Lincoln
was dismanteled immediately after the assasination. They brought it to some FBI garage and
made a heap of spare parts of it.

Intersting thing I also heared, is that usually all US Prsidents got Cadillac Limos, and mostly
with hard top. I was told, that this particular model was chosen, because of its seldom way the back doors
are attached (so called "suicide doors"): These doors in this particular Lincoln Continantal open towards the back, like car doors in ancient times.
If JFK would have had a sususpicion about Greer's intentions, he was literally trapped - An attempt to duck down, open the door
and to roll out of the limo is impossible with these doors because of the direction they open.

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2ct from EUROPCAR Chauffeur Service's best conspiracy theorist: Carl

[Trapster]

It is not necessary to know every detail about this 'hit'. What is important is to understand that the elite that run this country ordered and carried it out.

It's not in the details but in the motive/agenda where knowledge will set us free.

Look to the intentions.

[richard cranium]

That's weird,3 of the 4 videos mentioned in this thread are "unavaliable" now.

?

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rc

[Carl Bank]

That's weird,3 of the 4 videos mentioned in this thread are "unavaliable" now.

?

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rc

Here's the William Cooper video about greer shooting JFK in 5 parts:

1.

William Greer shot JFK with top secret CIA gun {william cooper} 1 - 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RV_dSuSTCc

2.

William Greer shot JFK with top secret CIA gun {william cooper} 2 - 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo2gsQijmmY

[Carl Bank]

3.

William Greer shot JFK with top secret CIA gun {william cooper} 3 - 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP09l3RJZNM

4.

William Greer shot JFK with top secret CIA gun {william cooper} 4 - 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y92AzWPtB_8

5.

William Greer shot JFK with top secret CIA gun {william cooper} 5 - 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y92KilS_YKE


skillful master in the art of copy & paste: Carl

[datars]

There are several points of evidence that support the assertion that the Limo Driver was the shooter.

Head Shot Came From a Storm Drain, not the Limo Driver

[Carl Bank]

Head Shot Came From a Storm Drain, not the Limo Driver

Can you support your assumption with some evidence/background info/ sources
and maybe adress the Greer issusue instead of simply insisting on your theory, please?

Maybe a hint or something? A simple explaination would do, i guess.

To be honest, for me you sound like an old, stubborn teacher wo tries to
tech the alphabeth to a bunch of 1st graders. Kind of arrogant. Even tho'
I always remember you as a very passionate, well informed poster, here
you fail to meet your standarts completely.


impressions from: Carl

[GroundPounder]

saw a vid a few years back where a guy was saying the storm drain was the most logical spot. complete concealment, very close etc...

[hturt]

I finished reading Dark Mission awhile back and here is Richard C. Hoaland's take on Kennedy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF_7AYGK6e0...feature=related

The pictures he mentions are in the book, which is a good read. One is an enchancement of Mary Moorman's photo which outlines someone shoting a gun from the "grassy gnoll". Hoagland then points to the testimoney of Gordon Arnold: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Arnold.

It's also interesting to note Mr Hoaland calls the Kennedy assassination the "third rail" of conspiracy theories.

Webster Tarpley, in the new AJ Obama video, calls JFK the last real president we had.

[7forever]

The driver killed Kennedy
The driver shot JFK clearly and obviously but the zapruder film needed to be picked apart and analyzed by someone and that someone turned out to be me.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xesq49_jf...rville-nix_news

Nix film close-up shows Greer's arm crossing over

I got this gif from this clip. Start it at 1:09 and see Greer quickly moving his left arm over his shoulder in unison with the headshot. The nix film was not shown close-up but when this sequence is zoomed in on the limo, this whopper is revealed. The goons covered those movements with fakery in the zfilm but could not or didn't bother with the nix film.
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THE FAKE GREY STREAK covered Greer's arm movement in the zfilm and the nix film proves that alteration beyond any doubt. Case Closed, finally.
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The driver killed Kennedy and the Nix film provides conclusive proof to this inevitable truth.