Iran Leader Makes New 9/11 Claims Options

[Devilsadvocate]

Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said that as an engineer he is sure the World Trade Centre towers were not brought down by jet planes on 9/11.

In an interview, he said it would have been impossible for two jetliners to bring down the towers simply by hitting them, adding that some kind of planned explosion must have taken place.

Mr Ahmadinejad stopped short of saying the United States staged the disaster 10 years ago. But he said there are questions the world should resolve, and noted that there are doubters in the United States as well.

"This was a systematic collapse of those towers," he said. "I can say with certainty there must have been explosive material that was set off in sequence."

"A few airplanes without previous coordination known to the security forces and the intelligence community in the United States cannot become missiles and target the heart of the United States," Mr Ahmadinejad went on.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/a...21316750281665A

[Werdna]

That's interesting... The Herald Sun in Oz is reminding readers he accused the US of being behind the attacks on 9/11:

HOURS after criticising America so fiercely that US diplomats stormed out of the UN General Assembly in protest, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said time had not run out for the two countries to repair their bad relationship.

In an interview with the Associated Press, Ahmadinejad claimed that explosive material and not planes brought down the World Trade Center, rejected the West's view of his country's nuclear ambitions and castigated US policies from Libya to Pakistan.

But he also complained that President Barack Obama never made good on a pledge to try to open a dialogue with Iran, and said he still hopes for a face-to-face meeting.

"I don't believe that this is a chance that has been completely lost," Ahmadinejad said.

The White House declined to comment on Ahmadinejad's remarks.

Ahmadinejad provoked a walkout by diplomats from more than 30 countries at the UN General Assembly when he attacked the US and Europe as being greedy, arrogant and too ready to use military force.

He repeated comments casting doubt on the origins of the Holocaust and the September 11, 2001 attacks and criticised the United States for killing Osama bin Laden rather than bringing him to trial.

European countries use the Holocaust as an excuse to pay "ransom to the Zionists", he said. The "diabolical" aims of the West are the cause of wars and the financial crisis, Ahmadinejad stormed.

In a repeat of walkouts at the United Nations and other international events in recent years, a US diplomat monitoring the speech in the UN General Assembly left halfway through the 20-minute discourse.

The 27 European Union nations then followed in a coordinated protest move.

"Mr Ahmadinejad had a chance to address his own people's aspirations for freedom and dignity, but instead he again turned to abhorrent anti-Semitic slurs and despicable conspiracy theories," said US mission spokesman Mark Kornblau.

The German delegation said in a statement that it was protesting over the "crude, anti-American, anti-Israeli and anti-West tirade by the Iranian president".

And a French spokesman called Ahmadinejad's attacks "unacceptable".

The Iranian president caused a UN walkout last year when he alleged the US government could have been behind the September 11 attacks. He has also used speeches in the past to call for the destruction of Israel and cast doubt on the existence of the Holocaust.

Israel and Canada were among countries which had no diplomats in the assembly even for the start of Ahmadinejad's latest speech.

Ahmadinejad told the UN summit that the United States and its allies use the Western media to "threaten anyone who questions the Holocaust and the September 11 event with sanctions and military action".

Some European countries "still use the Holocaust, after six decades, as the excuse to pay fine(s) or ransom to the Zionists." The United States considered Zionism as "sacred" while they "allow sacrileges and insult" against other religions.

The Iranian leader said he had been threatened by the US government after he last year alleged American government involvement in the attacks and called for an independent investigation.

Moving to the US operation to kill bin Laden, Ahmadinejad said the al-Qaeda leader should have been brought to trial "in order to identify the elements behind the safe space provided for the invading aircraft to attack the twin World Trade Center towers".

In a general blast at the West, Ahmadinejad said: "Hypocrisy and deceit are allowed in order to secure their interests and imperialistic goal."

"Drug trafficking and killing of innocent human beings are also allowed in pursuit of such diabolic goals," he added.

"They weaken countries through military intervention and destroy their infrastructures, in order to plunder their resources by making them all the more dependent."

Western diplomats said they had expected a tough speech by Ahmadinejad and had prepared walkout plans in advance.

White House spokesman Jay Carney dismissed Ahmadinejad's remarks. "Our views on Iran's behaviour and its vile mistreatment of its own citizens are well known. I find it rich that the Iranian president has such criticisms."

Source. Emphasis mine.

The article still seems to be written in the vein that Armadinejad is way off the mark and in the land of the raving loonies. Funny, but seems to be the only sane one in the room (...not that I support his country's policies anymore than I do my own country's, or those of the US).

[btoomy]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/a...21316750281665A

Not the best of allies to have on our side, but we'll take anyone , eh?

[Devilsadvocate]

Well- the alternative would have been the BBC...

Interesting is that there seems to have been some small little shift-- not that long ago, Ahmadinejad's remarks would have been carefully spared out altogether.

[onesliceshort]

Not the best of allies to have on our side, but we'll take anyone , eh?

As opposed to who?

The US and UK are allies of countries far more brutal and repressed than Iran. They are currently raping Libya and opposing Palestine's rightful plea to join the UN (more for recognition than anything this toothless, invertebrate organisation has to offer).

Don't believe the propaganda.

Edit: Don't forget that the US are guilty of war crimes and genocide (including against their own people)

This post has been edited by onesliceshort: Sep 23 2011, 10:26 AM

[CuriousGeorge2]

As opposed to who?

The US and UK are allies of countries far more brutal and repressed than Iran. They are currently raping Libya and opposing Palestine's rightful plea to join the UN (more for recognition than anything this toothless, invertebrate organisation has to offer).

Don't believe the propaganda.

Edit: Don't forget that the US are guilty of war crimes and genocide (including against their own people)

Well said, One Slice Short.

My comment: I love this man! Ahmadinejad is one of my personal heroes.

If a person accepts the following points as facts:

• 9/11 was a false flag attack not unlike the Reichstag fire and others ff's throughout history
• It's purpose was as a pretext for the US to invade Afghanistan to:
A) put a puppet government in A. to sign the TAPI pipeline, and
B) rape A. of its natural resources such as oil, gold, silver, berrylium (computer chips), titanium (aircraft), and uranium (nuclear), etc.
• The US gov illegally assassinates world leaders; topples governments and puts puppet governments in place, not to spread American goodness but usually, in FACT, to secure oil or some other natural resource.
• Western/American media has been instrumental in lying to the English-speaking world as to the true nature crimes and who is to blame (US, Israel) and who the victims are (Muslims).
• The United Nations, with its Security Council veto power, is a kind of international crime group disguised as peacemakers. (Ex. on the Security Council, the US will surely veto any proposal for Palestinian statehood.)

And, recalling in particular that one of Ahmadinejad's predecessors, Mosaddeq, was overthrown by the CIA in a covert operation in 1953 called TP-AJAX.

And, recalling that pro-Israeli media in the US have in the past have played the "Holocaust card" and tried to somehow link Iran with anti-semitism and supporting Nazis (??? laughable lies!!!).

Then, naturally, one would tend to feel very strongly that Ahmadinejad is being brave and standing up to quite a lot of criminal voices at once.

Criminal Forces Working Against Ahmadinejad:

• The criminal international bankers would like to see the US bully Iran to prevent them from selling barrels of oil for Euros and weakening the dollar's strategic position as the world's reserve currency. Search terms: petro dollar, iranian oil bourse, OPEC agreement
• The Zionist state known as Israel, founded on an act of terrorism (bombing of the Kind David Hotel in 1946) and whose first leader was a known terrorist (Menachem Begin), appear to have an agenda of Muslim war if not outright genocide.

Example #1, on the fourth day of the Six Day War, Israel and the US conspired to bring the US into the war on the side of Isreal by staging a false flag (literally!) attack on the USS Liberty and blaming it on Egypt.

Example #2: The Lavon Affair - Israel admitted to staging false flag operation in Egypt, blowing up Egyptian and US buildings and planting evidence to blame said acts on Muslims allegedly for the purpose of, for the second time, trying to bring the US into war with Muslims on the side of Israel.

• Criminal international corporations, some in the US, would apparently like to see US forces occupy Iran merely to plunder it for $$$ gain.
• The globalists - those seeking one-world government - do not like independent, sovereign nations such as Iran. That tends to spoil their plan for controlling the whole world. Ultimately, Iran must be disarmed at the very least for the NWO to succeed, one would think.

Big Lies working against Iran:

• The 9/11 Lie - says "Al Qaeda" is everywhere - used as justification for US to bomb literally almost any nation.
• The WMD lies - US "Intelligence" say Iran makes or could make WMD's - another Big Lie to be used to justify invasion of Iran
• The Holocaust Can't be Questioned - that's a lie. Of course it can be questioned. Anything may be questioned. Laws in Europe and elsewhere in the world which put Holocaust researchers in jail merely for doing research are ILLEGAL. However, this Big Lie is used against leaders such as Ahmadinejad with great punitive force behind it. Americans, especially, who hold freedom of speech so dear should stand behind Ahmadinejad's RIGHT to question something. Conversely, it is un-American to stifle debate.
• The UN is full of goodnes - Itself apparently born out of conspiracy (decades of starting world wars, making propaganda, secret treaties, etc.) in which effectively world war was used as a terror threat in the greatest "protection racquet" in history. The mafia are small potatoes compared to the UN. They told the world, you need a UN to stop world war. They had to start two world wars until the world bought into the "protection raquet." Now the criminal UN overseas the dismantling of honest nations such as Iran all over the world. One might not agree with everything Iran does. However, their right to be sovereign and to govern themselves is certain.
• The US is full of goodness - as OSS touched on above, unfortunately, the US today is a greedy world empire, corrupt and amoral. Our foreign policy is called "the carrot or the stick." AKA the "carpet of gold or the carpet of bombs." Either you do as we say, and let our corporations rape your country, or we bomb you into oblivion, and rape your country anyway. That's US foreign policy in the Middle East. It's no joke. We're pretty evil.

Concluding Remarks:

The very next person is likely to smear Ahmadinejad with an ad-hominem attack; call him names, perhaps anti-semitic. They are likely to accuse him of being homosexual, a child molester, an idiot; perhaps, Satan, a devil. The patriot today has to go beyond the controlled news and lies we're all fed on TV. There are apparently LOTS of conspiracies: conspiracies to prop up the US dollar, conspiracies to keep the TAPI pipeline flowing, conspiracies to rape countries such as Afghanistan of their natural resources. And, perhaps in some ways worst of all, conspiracies to use the media to tell lies and make propaganda to trick all of us into thinking down is up and black is white.

Ahmadinejad is just the latest victim of POWERFUL CRIMINAL FORCES. I would highly encourage all patriotic people everywhere to try to go beyond the lies and propaganda and really see the story from Ahmadinejad's side. Why? If for no other reason than for your own selfish protection. Because, let me be quite clear: after Ahmadinejad is defeated (if we allow that to happen), the criminals will NOT be satisfied. They will then look for a new "enemy" to pick on. And, one day, that "new enemy" will be average Joe middle class Americans LIKE YOU.

You are Ahmadinejad.

Stand up for your rights!!!

[amazed!]

Yes, the little Persian is one of my favorite politicians, just because he makes truthful statements more frequently than others.

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[werewolf]

ABC News

Sept. 27, 2011

The terror group al Qaeda has found itself curiously in agreement with the "Great Satan" -- which it calls the U.S. -- in issuing a stern message to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: stop spreading 9/11 conspiracy theories.

In the latest issue of the al Qaeda English-language magazine "Inspire", an author appears to take offense to the "ridiculous" theory repeatedly spread by Ahmadinejad that the 9/11 terror attacks were actually carried out by the U.S. government in order to provide a pretext to invade the Middle East...





Al Qaeda, in its magazine, Inspire, available online and sold on news stands everywhere, told the president of Iran to stop talking about 911 conspiracy theories.

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Inspire Magazine. For your free subscription please send your name and address to

Inspire Magazine
Al Qaeda
Langley, VA 23665

[werewolf]

Pretty slick looking Madison Avenue magazine, huh?





BBC admits that Al Qaeda never existed:

http://www.atsadgrab.com/forum/thread489502/pg1




Inspire Magazine. For your free subscription please send your name and address to

Inspire Magazine
Al Qaeda
Langley, VA 23665


(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/62/Inspire_magazine_cover.PNG/463px-Inspire_magazine_cover.PNG)

Inspire Magazine. For your free subscription please send your name and address to

Inspire Magazine
Al Qaeda
Langley, VA 23665
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[amazed!]

Werewolf

NYT is the 'home page' on my computer, so I end up seeing the front page every time I turn on the computer. They covered that story too, I made a comment in line with what you're saying, and then somehow the story vanished, at least from the front page. Most of their stories stay on the front page for the better part of a day. That one was gone quickly.

[hadmatter]

On the lighter side, Rachel Maddow did a piece on Inspire Magazine in the summer of 2010 following it's first publication. She was particularly amused by the name it chose to brand itself with, "Inspire" which happens to be the same name as Christina Aguilera's perfume.

She's MSM so didn't come completely out and call BS, but did leave it that this magazine may be Al-Qaeda's answer to "The Onion".


"Al-Qaeda's Propaganda Sucks"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClrSjqxDzo4

[paranoia]

"inspire" magazine is so blatantly full of shit that you'd have to be really dense not to realize who is really behind it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspire_(magazine)

thing is, i cant find an actual website for them, nor can i find an actual online copy of any issue. anyone have a link?



btw - the 2011 U.N. SPEECH by ahmadinejad is available here:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/301708-1

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad addressed the United Nations General Assembly meeting. He accused European countries of "still us(ing) the Holocaust after six decades as the excuse to pay fine or ransom to the Zionists", and condemned the U.S. for killing al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden instead of trying him in a court of law. His remarks led may delegations to walk out during his speech.

30 minutes | 640 Views

and in case anyone's interested, his 2010 speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHyQhI6VYEE (part 3 - discusses the UN organizing its own investigation into 9/11)

[werewolf]

Werewolf

NYT is the 'home page' on my computer, so I end up seeing the front page every time I turn on the computer. They covered that story too, I made a comment in line with what you're saying, and then somehow the story vanished, at least from the front page. Most of their stories stay on the front page for the better part of a day. That one was gone quickly.

No surprise there, Amazed. The NY Times, "All the news that Fits". And this latest bit of agitprop from the CIA-Mossad is so patently absurd and so made for mockery that I think they'd just as soon forget it and shove it down the ol' memory hole!

[werewolf]

" i cant find an actual website for them, nor can i find an actual online copy of any issue. anyone have a link?"


Sure, that slick Madison Avenue English language magazine is sold on newstands everywhere, and all you need to do is google it to get to their giant website.

Not.

Actually if you write to the contact address above in Langley, VA they could tell you where to get a copy.