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Hello Everyone. So.... Is That It?

IsaacNewton
post Nov 15 2013, 05:47 AM
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I don't think any rational person who looks at the overwhelming mountain of evidence can avoid the obvious conclusion that highly placed individuals within the United States Government are at least partly, if not solely, responsible for the events of September 11, 2001. I'm just wondering now, as I survey the seemingly endless list of people whose reputations, credentials and collective experience are literally above reproach....



Is that it? I understand they've had the courage to step forward and demand answers by signing a petition but.... Where is the outrage? It's been well over a decade now and, presumably, the same individuals who were responsible for this crime, which can only be described as purest evil, are still in control of this country today, and are still actively engaged, right now, in committing further crimes! Crimes which, as someone on the that long list of noteworthy people put it "....may signal the end of the American Experiment". How can this be?

It's going to take more than a petition to resolve this issue. An emergency situation requires an emergency response.... This is an emergency and has been since September 11, 2001. Do they honestly believe that their petition willl motivate the same government that committed the crime to indict and convict itself? If the American people don't take action, and soon, it will be over.

It may already be to late.... I don't know how much credibility to attach to them, but I'm reading on the internet about the Department Of Homeland Security stockpiling billions of rounds of hollow point ammunition, mysterious "facilities" that resemble prisons being built all over the country and large plastic coffins, or "vaults" being stockpiled by FEMA, alledgedly "....just in case something happens". That doesn't sound very good. If anyone has any reliable information about that I'd be grateful to review it, if they'd care to post it.

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IsaacNewton
post Apr 14 2015, 07:11 PM
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I'm looking at this still and it increasingly appears to be a no win scenario for the American people really no matter what.

If a genuine investigation is launched and it gets to close to the truth, the perpetrarors of 9/11 (a covert political entity) will simply accelerate their schedule by committing another or even multiple similar staged attacks in order to justify the immediate declaration of Martial Law or the imposition of other severe socio-economic restrictions on the general populace to remain in control, prevent any further investigative progress and avoid answering for thier crimes.

If no genuine investigation is launched, then the perpetrators of 9/11 (a covert political entity) will simply remain in control and continue avoiding answering for their crimes (as they have successfully done now since at least 2001), proceeding with their schedule of committing another or even multiple staged attacks to justify the declaration of Martial Law or the imposition of other severe socio-economic restrictions on the general populace, preventing any further investigative progress and continuing to avoid answering form their crimes.

There doesn't appear to be any way out either, because the covert political entity that is/controls the Pentagon and NATO is too well ensconced now around the globe for any local uprising (a single country) to seriously affect the their global objective (whatever that turns out to be).

The people cannot win, it's too late. They're completely out gunned, the coffins are ready and the camps stand ready. As a group (globally) the people have neither the collective will nor the physical ability to rise up as one and act, for example, in the form of any kind of meaningful wide spread work stoppage or tax recolt would have any real impact on the well armed and well supplied organization (the covert political entity) now known to be in control, and even if they did have the will and the ability, it would only force the situation to a head on a grander scale, resulting in a their committing another or even multiple staged attacks (blamed on those rising up of course) leading to the immediate declaration of Martial Law or the imposition of other severe socio-economic restrictions being placed on the general populace of whatever country or contries were involved..

The battle is lost.

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post Apr 14 2015, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE (IsaacNewton @ Apr 12 2015, 09:11 PM) *
I'm looking at this still and it increasingly appears to be a no win scenario for the American people really no matter what.
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The battle is lost.


Well, if you're gonna be a defeatist, then why even make any kind of remark?

I for one don't believe a word of the effete elite. They're full of bluster, and bovine excrement, i.e., they're so full of themselves, that if they were to have a really good bowel movement, they'd have to pin a note on their clothes telling whomever found them to where they should be sent, or to be disposed of.

Terrorists they. That's what terrorists do: They bluster, bloviate, and make endless threats when they can't get their way. Their entire philosophy is just this: Make endless threats, and perpetrate skulduggery hoping to scare the masses into submission.

Well, guess what? There are far more of US than there are of THEM, and =>THEY<= know it! Once the largest mass of the People awaken to the facts, the game is over, and the effete elite will thence scurry into their mass graves which they've dug for themselves in underground bunkers, hoping that none of the rest of us know where their hidey-holes are located. NEWS FLASH FOR THEM: Those locations are well known!!!
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post Apr 16 2015, 04:24 PM
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Well, if you're gonna be a defeatist, then why even make any kind of remark?


I'm no defeatist, I'm a realist, there's a difference.... just like there's a difference between being an optimist and being a pollyanna.

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I for one don't believe a word of the effete elite. They're full of bluster, and bovine excrement, i.e., they're so full of themselves, that if they were to have a really good bowel movement, they'd have to pin a note on their clothes telling whomever found them to where they should be sent, or to be disposed of.


What's your definition of bluster? 9/11 was no bluster, nor were the outright premeditated murders of over a million innocent people in Iraq and Afganistan alone committed in it's name. And the revelation of things like Operation Gladio and Operation Northwoods (among many others) shows it's been going on for at least half a century!

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Terrorists they. That's what terrorists do: They bluster, bloviate, and make endless threats when they can't get their way. Their entire philosophy is just this: Make endless threats, and perpetrate skulduggery hoping to scare the masses into submission.


What's your definition of threat? 9/11 was no idle threat, and I say anyone who thinks so is either uninformed, trying to disinform or still recovering from a botched hemispherectomy.... Which are you?

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Well, guess what? There are far more of US than there are of THEM, and =>THEY<= know it!


Right, no problem apparently. The Department of Homeland Security recently ordered (with your tax dollars) over 1.5 billion hollow point bullets, that should do it. The kicker is theye've even got the people paying for the very bulletss that will ultimately be used to kill them when it all falls apart.... Hah!

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Once the largest mass of the People awaken to the facts, the game is over, and the effete elite will thence scurry into their mass graves which they've dug for themselves in underground bunkers, hoping that none of the rest of us know where their hidey-holes are located. NEWS FLASH FOR THEM: Those locations are well known!!!


And I suppose you're planning on just waltzing in there and dispatching the evil doers in the midst of their armored heavily defended underground (or even above ground) bunkers? You're lost.... anyone who even tries it will die in a hail of hollow point bullets, bombs, mines, nerve gas and whatever else they have a five or ten year stockpile of down there by now (undoubtedly at multiple locations with a dedicated communications network).

In the ensuing chaos (regional or global) following a complete socio-economic collapse (no electricity, running water, medicine, gas or food), even the remote possibility of any such occurrence is laughable. Chaos will reign supreme for a time as those left on the "outside" kill each other off for whatever rapidly dwindling resources remain (food, water, medicine, gas, guns, bullets, etc.) . All those in the bunkers need do is simply wait it out and when they finally do emerge, they will emerge healthy, well fed, highly trained and armed to the teeth.... ready to take out those who resist, and take control of those who do not.

And the "People"? Well, at this point in time, they look to me very much like a bunch of naked frightened trembling little children all huddled together in front of a bunch of battle ready Sherman Tanks (that they paid for) that are all now loaded and aimed directly at them awaiting orders from the illegal covert political entity that provably controls them, the majority half heartedly reassuring themselves and each other that "Everything will be alright, they're here to protect us.".... with a few of them waving around some sort of petition or something.

The covert political entity formerly known as the United States Government will be no more persuaded by the people to investigate itself over the events of 9/11 than Hitler would have been persuaded by the people to have investigated himself over the fire at the Reichstag. The people lost control then and they've lost control now, in fact even the most cursory review of recent history (the last five centuries or so) raises serious doubts about whether the "People" have ever really been in control of anything.... I think they've not.

The people currently have no physical ability to act either individually or in concert as a group either regionally or globally to physically effect the removal of the illegal covert political entity now known to be in control the United States of America (and by extension all NATO countries being run under it's auspices), and neither do they currently have any legislative or legal remedy at hand to remove the illegal covert political entity now known to be in control the United States of America (and by extension all NATO countries being run under it's auspices) because this illegal covert political entity is (and likely has been for quite some time) in complete control of all branches of the Federal Government....

....the Executive branch, as evidenced by the President continuing to publically recite the (long ago scientifically proven false) official narrative with regard to 9/11 and also by proceeding with various ongoing military operations around the world based on it. That being the case, he is knowingly cooperating and acting in concert with what he must know to be an illegal covert political entity controlling the United States of America (and by extension all NATO countries being run under it's auspices) not legally or legislatively authorized by the Constitution of the United States in violation of his sworn Oath.

....the Legislative branch, as evidenced by the entire legislative body (Congress, the Senate and the House of Representatives) either continuing to publically recite the official narrative with regard to 9/11 and voting in session based on it, or by simply refusing to comment on it or address it at all. They are knowingly cooperating and acting in concert with what they must know to be an illegal covert political entity controlling the United States of America (and by extension all NATO countries being run under it's auspices) not legally or legislatively authorized by the Constitution of the United States in violation of their sworn Oaths.


....the Judicial branch, as evidenced by the flat refusal of the Attorney General or the Supreme Court to act in investigating or prosecuting any agent or official of either of literally the only two possible suspects that could have carried out a domestic covert operation of this magnitude.... the Department of Defense and the Central Intelligence Agency are literally the only ones with the necessary resources who had carte blanche access to World Trade Center building 7 (the case could easily be prosecuted by a nickel and dime divorce attorney working out of a garage). They must also be knowingly cooperating and acting in concert with what they must know to be a covert political entity controlling the United States of America (and by extension all NATO countries being run under it's auspices) not legally or legislatively authorized by the Constitution of the United States in violation of their sworn Oaths.


....the Military, as evidenced by it's continued public recitation of the official narrative, and also by well documented past activities that establish a clear pattern of global political manipulation accomplished by means of orchestrated false flag terrorist attacks, bombings and assasinations over at least the last half century, including the likes of Operation Gladio, Operation Northwoods (actually planned to take place on American soil) along with a host of others too numerous to mention.


The covert political entity now provably controlling the United States of America (and by extension all NATO countries being run under it's auspices) is well ensconced with numerous heavily armored and heavily defended currently operational bunkers, hundreds of currently manned operational detention facilities (including the needed accompanying transportation infrasructure), millions of coffins and billions of bullets.


A battle lost even before it's begun.... even this old eighth grade dropout can see it.

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