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Faa 2008 Replay, LOOK

UnderTow
post Oct 2 2008, 11:45 PM
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I made this video today. It is of the last half-circle of alleged AA77 from the DCA FAA radar replay application movie.

I time lapsed the motion and zoomed into the area with P56 zone clearly outlined in the upper area.
AA77 is the red blips doing the circle.
I then shuffled the player back and forth a bit so you can get a feel for it.
Keep an eye on LOOK.

Also, the sweep time of the radar, update period, and etc is 4.7 seconds not the 12 seconds that some people like to pander about.

When it starts, it's going backwards in time. Find the S at the top center, that is the AA77. It moves backwards at first, then I move the slider back forward. I did this video in a quicky, sorry. Do not be distracted by the GOFER06.

How do I embed again, help?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYiDYDasG0M

Or screw all that and download the full size version here, less then 1 MB zipped.
ReplayLook.zip

In fact please download it, you'll be able to see much more then the craptube version.



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post Oct 3 2008, 12:43 AM
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One thing that really stands out when i first saw this video a few days ago (briefly) was that it has radar returns well past the pentagon for "LOOK", meaning east of the pentagon, even east of the potomac.


How can "LOOK" (presumably AA77) be generating radar returns east of the pentagon when it allegedly impacted the pentagon according to the govt story?

For those who would like reference...

You can clearly see P-56 reference/outline in UT's video above and that "LOOK" generates radar returns almost to the east side of P-56.

See P-56 here and notice the east end of the outline. Well east of the Potomac... and.. .drum roll... pentagon...




According to the FAA Radar, AA77 flew over the pentagon.

hmmm.... i can hear the excuses already.... whistle.gif
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post Oct 3 2008, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE (UnderTow @ Oct 1 2008, 01:45 AM) *
I made this video today. It is of the last half-circle of alleged AA77 from the DCA FAA radar replay application movie.

I time lapsed the motion and zoomed into the area with P56 zone clearly outlined in the upper area.
AA77 is the red blips doing the circle.
I then shuffled the player back and forth a bit so you can get a feel for it.
Keep an eye on LOOK.

Also, the sweep time of the radar, update period, and etc is 4.7 seconds not the 12 seconds that some people like to pander about.

When it starts, it's going backwards in time. Find the S at the top center, that is the AA77. It moves backwards at first, then I move the slider back forward. I did this video in a quicky, sorry. Do not be distracted by the GOFER06.

How do I embed again, help?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYiDYDasG0M

Or screw all that and download the full size version here, less then 1 MB zipped.
ReplayLook.zip

In fact please download it, you'll be able to see much more then the craptube version.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/XYiDYDasG0M&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/XYiDYDasG0M&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>



In need of some layman help...is the S AA77 or is Look AA 77 or are they a combination of data?

Do radar algorithms predict in any sort of way the objects flight path so that would be the most likely position or is it all dependent upon the sweep return?

I'm assuming the red X that the S is superimposed over is the actual object. If so, what are the red dots trailing it?

Thanks again for clearing this up for a layman. rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 3 2008, 09:48 AM
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Okay
I see what it is now. I misspoke a few items. Let me try and clarify.

I thought LOOK was a separate object, but it is not. It is the Name Tag for the S.
All the name tags (BOBCAT, GOFER, etc) are offset from the actual blip return (the red +)
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post Oct 3 2008, 10:12 AM
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Yes, the download is much better. Let's double the size of the video to get a better look. Radar centered at Reagan National control tower I presume? As I understand UT, the 'S' is the alleged Flight 77. No matter, both 'S' and 'Look" go past the Pentagon and the Potomac. But this is the 'official' flight path which never happened. The loop southwest of the Pentagon while the real aircraft flew over DC and 6 miles southeast of the White House and around Reagan National. Even their own manufactured evidence proves them wrong?

Edit: When I pause the downloaded .avi on a 1600x1200 full screen when the 'S' disappears, I get three white dots on the 'S' path past the Potomac.
At that same instant Gofer06 is '2' and is directly far to the west of Reagan and 5354 apparently lands at Reagan from the south.





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post Oct 3 2008, 10:40 AM
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Those 3 white dots sound to me like previous aircraft radar returns (position): more dots (or farther apart) == higher speed, since many radar systems have a "memory" time setting.

Dunno if this helps.

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post Oct 3 2008, 08:21 PM
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No I think those 3 dots are the last 3 recorded positions for the 'S' path which represents Flight 77.
They are past the Potomac anyway and are not supposed to be.
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post Oct 4 2008, 03:11 PM
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Very interesting!

But I guess it would take a debunker 2 secs to come up with an "explanation" once again.
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post Oct 5 2008, 11:43 PM
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Another tidbit(s).
LOOK is the name tag for S
The numbers are
Altitude Hundreds * Speed Knots Tens

BOBCAT14 at one point being 23,000Ft * 340Knots

The larger question is the timing for the system to label the bogey. Why only then, after it had completed 1/2 it's Circle?
Besides how in hades the system chose to label it "LOOK".
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post Nov 17 2008, 02:02 AM
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I tried to compare this LOOK video to the list of DCA landing times here:



IS there any way to slow it down or see it frame by frame? I'd like to compare the landing list to the activity in the video.

I would also be nice to compare it to a similar take off list.
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