Important Conference With Cit And P4t, July 11 at 10:00am in Arlington, VA Options

[Craig Ranke CIT]

Sorry, I meant to suggest that a relatively slow moving, ascending and banking "AA 77" may have been intended in order to blend with normal air traffic happenings within the area of Reagan National.

Oh ok I see what you mean now and yes certainly this was undoubtedly the intent.

Hopefully your presentation can find its way into the hands of people who could become whistle-blowers. (people involved with Pentagon evidence collection or lack thereof)

That would definitely be a good thing.

Which is why we need help from everyone getting it into as many hands as possible.

This post has been edited by Craig Ranke CIT: Jun 15 2009, 01:29 PM

[rob balsamo]

Reminder, This Saturday CIT and P4T will be in Arlington to present important information.

I will be doing my best to make it personally, however Lt Col Shelton Lankford is scheduled to attend.

[Sanders]

Good luck, I hope it's a great success (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/yes1.gif)

[lipsmalloy]

This is terrific news! I do hope the presentation will be videotaped for those who cannot attend. Will there be a post-presentation recap here? I would be curious as to audience attendance and reaction.

WeAreChangeLA was just in DC, to present a package of scientific papers to members of congress (see WeAreChangeLA delivers scientific proof of TREASON to members of Congress and other D.C. players... day one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtCxBNaKr90 for the first installment), and also to attend the torture accountability protest, at which Enver Masud was a speaker. I wish I had the chance then to meet him in person.

Next week Richard Gage will be in DC for the AIA convention and also has scheduled meetings with members of congress. With all these events practically back to back, I think we are really putting some pressure on these people for a new investigation.

The latest CIT video is tops.

[Craig Ranke CIT]

Thanks lips! Great work with WeAreChangeLA!

Yes we will get the conference on video and encourage others to record it as well.

We should schedule a time for a presentation in LA soon.

[tnemelckram]

Hi Craig!

I've made hotel reservations and will be there (a convenient stop on my way to my friends' place in OC).
I'm really looking forward to meeting you and the others!

Yes we will get the conference on video and encourage others to record it as well.

We should schedule a time for a presentation in LA soon.

The word seems to be spreading and "gaining traction", as the politicos are fond of saying.

[Craig Ranke CIT]

Great! Looking forward to meeting you.

[BarryWilliamsmb]

This video makes me feel like I can do more than I am.

I will.

Thank you.

[madtruth]

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[Craig Ranke CIT]

This video makes me feel like I can do more than I am.

I will.

Thank you.

THAT is what I'm talking about!

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[RickMason]

Glad to see CIT is still pressing the Pentagon matter.

I don't know what happened at the Penatgon on 9/11 but because of all the CIT research, it seems virtually certain that AA 77 did not fly south of the Citgo station and topple the light posts as alleged by "official" accounts.

All of the Pentagon scene interviews are a very important historical record.

I'm not sure what it's found under, but if you search YouTube there is a video of alleged 9/11 victim and taxi driver recanting his story. The makers of one of the many documentaries on 9/11 take the elderly gent on a trip around the Pentagon and through re-tracing his alleged activities on that morning force him to admit the whole thing was a set-up. Just search for '9/11 cab driver recants his story' on YouTube and you should be able to find it. Anyway, if that lamp post was really stuck in his windshield how did a man his age lift it off his car? Even though made mostly from aluminium, the light pole is too heavy for an elderly man to move alone! The 'official' story has just too many holes in it. For example, the only aircraft pieces identifiable are from an engine just the right size to be from a 'Global Hawk' unmanned drone......hmmmm?!?!

[Bruce Sinclair]

Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you! From the bottom of my heart! This is the kind of event that will help people to confront the truth of 911. You all did an amazing job and the video presentation is clear, concise and to the point!

Thank-you all!

Bruce Sinclair

[archerace7]

While I have never posted, I read the posts and follow this, mainly because none of the things that happened on 911 made much sense to me.
And it seems that the pentagon attack left the most questions as well as the most evidence that could be either verified or debunked. I just watched the video and the implications are staggering.
I am now convinced that the Gov. lied. Forget trying to prove it ( although it would be great if you could) if the powers that be can pull this off, how can you ever bring it to light.
The question I would like to ask is this. Regardless of the details, this was staged, Why?
What is the ultimate goal of this, who specifically is involved, or would have to be involved in order to pull it off.
I know that no one likes to theorize...but to me this is beyond the theory stage now. And I would really like to know what other citizens of this great country think could be the agenda of the people behind this...and are they still in power.

This post has been edited by archerace7: Jul 17 2009, 11:32 PM

[rob balsamo]

CIT portion of the conference now on video...

CIT live in Arlington, VA - July 2009 from Citizen Investigation Team on Vimeo.

[Sanders]

The question I would like to ask is this. Regardless of the details, this was staged, Why?
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Welcome to the forum. I tried to answer your questions here -

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=17726


Great presentation (what I was able to watch of it) ! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

[lipsmalloy]

Excellent presentation. I had a thought. Could the north flight path/fly over have hit any of the poles from a different angle? (Considering the testimony of the employee on the loading dock of the south parking lot.) Also, I recall seeing an aerial photo that shows the cars on the highway next to the Pentagon. One of them is stopped at an angle, like Lloyd the cab driver's car, and looks like it could be his, but it is north of the bridge. The car is where he points to when he says 'no, I was over here' (where it couldn't have been hit by the light pole). Could he have swerved to a stop when the (north of Citgo) plane flew over him?

[onesliceshort]

While I have never posted, I read the posts and follow this, mainly because none of the things that happened on 911 made much sense to me.
And it seems that the pentagon attack left the most questions as well as the most evidence that could be either verified or debunked. I just watched the video and the implications are staggering.
I am now convinced that the Gov. lied. Forget trying to prove it ( although it would be great if you could) if the powers that be can pull this off, how can you ever bring it to light.
The question I would like to ask is this. Regardless of the details, this was staged, Why?
What is the ultimate goal of this, who specifically is involved, or would have to be involved in order to pull it off.
I know that no one likes to theorize...but to me this is beyond the theory stage now. And I would really like to know what other citizens of this great country think could be the agenda of the people behind this...and are they still in power.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=17368

There were more than 300 safes containing classified material in the section of the building that was hit. They were eventually opened with hydraulic cutting tools typically used to free people from vehicle accidents and returned to their respective departments

old.911digitalarchive.org/crr/documents/1926.pdf

A significant and difficult task performed by DPS was the recovery of classified material. Prior to 9-11 no thought had been given to the retrieval of classified documents and containers. DPS recovered 200 safes containing classified information from the attack site. As safes were recovered, they were taken to a warehouse previously used for the destruction of classified documents, allowed to cool if necessary and then opened. The best method found to open a safe was the "jaws of life" used by fire departments. Once a safe was opened, its contents were assessed with assistance of Pentagon components and documents returned to the appropriate custodian. A number of documents were destroyed because of their condition.

http://www.arlingtonva.us/departments/Fire...fterReport.aspx

Opening safes to verify contents and determine ownership was problematic.
Blast and heat from the crash damaged combination locks and fused safe doors
shut. In many instances, name plates and identifying information usually found
on the outside of a safe had been destroyed. The DPS purchased two devices
known as “Jaws of Life,” which allowed them to open about 250 safes. In some
cases, custodial information required to be stored inside the safe was missing or
not current. There was no master roster of personnel assigned responsibility for
the many classified containers. The DPS had to contact Pentagon security
managers to make decisions regarding the disposition of classified materials.

I truly believe that one of the side benifits of this attack was the burial of classified material as Turbofan has pointed out.
300 safes were either destroyed or toyed with.
I mean, how were so many safes damaged to the point that nearly all had to be opened in a chaotic atmosphere.
2.3 trillion has been brushed under the carpet.
Sibel Edmonds has more info (yet undisclosed) but hinting that a dirty trail runs right through the Pentagon.
Personnel working there may have been targets too.

Hopefully CIT and Pilotsfor911truth have found a chink in their armour and we can get it out in the open.

[realitycheck77]

I'm not sure what it's found under, but if you search YouTube there is a video of alleged 9/11 victim and taxi driver recanting his story. The makers of one of the many documentaries on 9/11 take the elderly gent on a trip around the Pentagon and through re-tracing his alleged activities on that morning force him to admit the whole thing was a set-up. Just search for '9/11 cab driver recants his story' on YouTube and you should be able to find it. Anyway, if that lamp post was really stuck in his windshield how did a man his age lift it off his car? Even though made mostly from aluminium, the light pole is too heavy for an elderly man to move alone! The 'official' story has just too many holes in it. For example, the only aircraft pieces identifiable are from an engine just the right size to be from a 'Global Hawk' unmanned drone......hmmmm?!?!

Non of the witnesses saw a Global Hawk. Is the engine piece you are talking about the 3ft diameter disc? Where does the air go?

[onesliceshort]

QUOTE (lipsmalloy @ Jul 27 2009, 07:09 PM)

Excellent presentation. I had a thought. Could the north flight path/fly over have hit any of the poles from a different angle? (Considering the testimony of the employee on the loading dock of the south parking lot.)

Once the plane reaches the critical point of North of the Citgo station, this is the ´point of no return´.
It is aerodynamically impossible for the plane to get from this point to the first and second lightpoles and recuperate on to the official low level trajectory portrayed in the gatecam video and the ASCE report. Impossible.


Roosevelt Roberts said he ran out on to the loading dock ´after the explosion hit´ in a CIT telephone conversation with him.
I would forget about the Global Hawk. This may very well have been a modified plane to carry out this manoeuvre. It may also have been unmanned. But this is speculation at this point.
What we DO know is that from the NoC approach it is an IMPOSSIBILITY that ANY aircraft struck the Pentagon.
That should be enough to draw our own conclusions from.
Let´s get their scrawny asses into court THEN find out EXACTLY how they did it.

[lunk]

From what I understand the pentagon was lower, topographically, than most of the surrounding area. The lowest point on decoy 77 approach?
How much higher are the tops of the lightpoles from the First (ground?) floor of the pentagon?

What happens to a projectile (plane or bullet) after it hits, or goes through something, on the way toward its' target?

Is there even any avian approach toward the location of the damage to the pentagon, that doesn't have obstacles in the way?

I suspect that it is impossible for a plane to hit that part of the pentagon without risking getting destroyed by some obstacle, on, and in the way.

Otherwise, it would have been much simpler just to fly a plane into the pentagon, for the same effect.

This is probably the reason for the flyover, instead.

...I need coffee.