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Bomb At Government Headquarters/oslo, Norway

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post Jul 24 2011, 01:01 PM
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The response by the Norwegian government is commendable in the fact that there is no knee-jerk reaction on freedom issues. No police state mentality.
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this anfo bombing bore any resemblance to okbomb, observe the differences in the damage. okbomb had nothing to do with anfo.

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Yes, the early use of that "OKC type bomb" was a clue. As time goes on, more and more this event looks like Mossad and some kind of Manchurian Candidate type.
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on the other hand, the perpetrator's manifesto is worth a read. my very well connected friend living in montenegro, who has always related to me the lies foisted on the citizenry of nato states concerning the usa/nato invasion of yugoslavia during the clinton regime, found his analysis of the albanian/kosovo situation to be more accurate than what gets reported in the nato states.

so, from another perspective, this could be seen as a revolutionary act...sort of like the rioting in greece, but raised to the level that might actually be required to wrest the control of the planet from the banksters and gangsters.

QUOTE: 2.61 Kosovo - Just another step in the Islamisation of Europe

Has the world gone crazy or is there a master plan that the super powers have in mind
so intricate that the common people cannot comprehend? This is the question I have
been asking myself during the last couple of weeks while following closely the
development of the drama in Kosovo. The opinion that Kosovo‘s unilateral declaration of
independence is illegal is shared by many countries in the world since it blatantly defies
international agreements. For some inexplicable reason, the US and the big West
European countries embraced the self proclaimed independence of this province in the
Balkans inhabited by clans of ruthless terrorists. I am sure that many people are raising
their eyebrows right now so I will provide some historical evidence to back my judgment
since I know for a fact that many people not only in the US but also in Europe are grossly
misinformed on this issue.

Tony Vladov from the Bulgarian daily newspaper Standard gives details on how the
notorious Albanian organised crime originated from the traditional family clans. Since the
fifteenth century those clans have used a system or rules called ―kanun.‖ Similarly to the
mafia, each of these families have been controlling and governing certain territory, which
in many instances caused bloodsheds among clans. It‘s suggested that even during the
rule of the Albanian dictator Enver Hodja fifteen clans in Albania have been committing
illegal contraband operations. Later these criminals expanded their operations and during
the political turmoil of 1997 they establish total control of the organised crime in Albania.
The same families created the Army for Liberation of Kosovo (AOK), with the simple
agenda of making money from the financing of the war with Serbia and to conquer new
territories inhabited by Albanians on the Balkans.

The war in Kosovo played a major role for the popularisation of Albanian criminal
contractors throughout Europe. Moreover, this changed the route of heroin transportation
from the East to the West. Before the war, the drugs used to go through the channel
Turkey-Serbia-Croatia and Slovenia. During the war the Albanians guaranteed the safety
of the cargos in the military zone and thus achieve total control of the traffic.
Immediately after the war, the ethnic Albanians and their fellow relatives from Kosovo
were granted a statute of refugees and quickly dispersed throughout Europe. The biggest
Albanian colonies put roots in Germany and Switzerland creating a monopoly on the
heroin trade. All of the Albanians have always highly respected the clans‘ hierarchy. For
example, the Albanian leader in Macedonia – Ali Ahmeti is a nephew of Fazly Veliu, one
of the founders of Albanian Army for Libaration of Kosovo. Furthermore, the Veliu family
is closely related to the Djashari clan, which member is Haim Tachi himself. This same
person, Mr. Tachi (then leader of the AOK) killed many civilian Serbs during the AOK
infiltrations of sovereign Serbian territory. It is also curious that this individual is a close
friend of the foreign policy team of the Clinton Administration – Madeline Albright,
Richard Holbrook and Wesley Clark.

Until today Albania has been ruled by the terror of the lawless criminal clans and any
judge who dared to intervene has being executed. What the world doesn‘t know is that
the fix idea of the Albanians of creating Great Albania is still alive and they are working
hard for achieving it. Most families procreate at large scales trying to conquer territories
demographically and later through bloodshed. Moreover, Albanians are spread all over
Europe and especially in the criminal underworld. They are notorious for their
effectiveness, unpredictability and incredible cruelty. Their main advantage to the other
organised crime is the fact that they speak language nobody understands, their
organisation is based on family ties and if someone dares to speak out that person is
being brutally murdered. In Europe, today the Albanian mafia is the main engine of
traffic of drugs and humans, theft and falsification of passports, weapons and human
organs trade, abductions, extortions and executions. In London these people control the
entire network of prostitution, in Italy and Greece they deal with weapons and drugs‘
smuggling. There are entire towns in Italy where the business is controlled by Albanians.
In the US there are more than 150,000 Albanian immigrants from Kosovo, Macedonia,
Montenegro and Albania.


Moreover, here is another interesting piece of information about the ―unprivileged‖
Albanians. In 2002, soon after the invasion of Albanian terrorists in Macedonia, the local
government presented a 79 page report to the CIA, which highlighted the collaboration of
Albanians and Al Qaida on the Balkans. Since 1999 only in Kosovo there have been built
24 Wahabit mosques, 14 orphanages, and 24 elementary schools sponsored by the
Wahabit network. The situation in Albania is similar where the religious leader is a
disciple of the Wahabits of Saudi Arabia. Wahabism is a fundamentalist movement in the
Islam and is the main inspiration for the terrorists from Al Qaida. Although this doesn‘t
mean that all Albanians will become terrorists, it poses a great danger to the world since
there are conditions for the creation and spreading of terrorist cells in the Albanian
society.

Why am I providing all this background information? I am just trying to explain why
independent Kosovo is so dangerous for the cultural and social integrity of Europe. The
Albanians and other Muslims for that matter have been refusing for years to integrate in
the European society. The problems they have created in the UK, Italy, France, Germany,
the Balkans and many other places are countless. The world saw what happened in Paris
and Germany few years ago. Last year, Albanian refugees from Kosovo tried to commit a
terrorist attack on an American military base in the US! In 2001 the AOK army invaded
Macedonia and destroyed Christian monasteries from the 12th century. Thanks to these
‗peace‖ loving individuals we can‘t bring liquids on the aeroplanes today. I can only hope
that Turkey never gets to join the European Union or as Nicholas Sarkozy once said, one
day we will have to explain to our children why Beirut and Damascus should be in
Europe.

Based on all of the above facts I don‘t understand why the US, France, Italy and
Germany accepted the unilateral proclamation of independence of Kosovo. Is the
memory of these nations so short or do they have a secret agenda? The US similarly to
Russia actually has always tried to split countries and regions so it can have more power
over them. The examples in history are many – the coup in Iran that brought to power
the Ayatollahs, the war in Iraq, the bombing of Serbia in the 90‘s. In the age we live in,
however the time has come for the world powers to make a decision. Are they going to
work together in order to promote and conserve western values, traditions and cultures
and protect their people from the imminent threat of the dark force that is trying to
undermine all things civil we believe in or are they going to use the Muslim card in the
fight for power among themselves? Only time will show, but I truly hope that future
generations in Europe don‘t have to wake up every morning by the sounds of Muslim
prayers and read re-written history books.
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post Jul 24 2011, 04:56 PM
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manifestos are one thing. killing kids is another. the unabomber's was quite a read.. didn't advocate whacking kids..his victims weren't kids. the latest event seems to have more of a masonic/illuminati/psychopath/satanic bent. hence, no need to read that drivel.

edit: basically, not interested in lucifer's point of view.
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post Jul 24 2011, 05:09 PM
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Breivik claims to have acted alone.

The following 'Guardian'-article has this to say:

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Yet it is important, nevertheless, for all observers to remain as humble and objective as possible in the face of the facts of a horror like this. Reaching for larger sociological or even political explanations of events of this kind is understandable. But it risks missing the reality that this was perhaps, above all, a catastrophic psychopathic event.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/20...ational-tragedy

Well- there was more than one survivor who claimed that there was a second shooter:
Around 40 years old, dark-haired, Norwegian-looking, not dressed as a policeman, carrying a pistol and an assault-rifle.

The German tourist Marcel Gleffe rescued dozens of people with his boat; he says:

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"The youths were good. They supported each other and were organised, and said who needed first aid and who had to be taken into the boat first. 'You must take him, you must take him', they said."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...g-30-lives.html

That does not sound like people who are scared out of their wits altogether; they were trying very hard to stay composed.
If that's anything to go by, I take the liberty of believing what they have to say rather than what Breivik says.

And if there was a second shooter-- then:
Oh- yes; this is exactly the time to reach for larger sociological explanations. Or even political ones...

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And to make things interesting:

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Hunt for Britons linked to Norway killer Anders Behring Breivik

A hunt for possible British accomplices of the mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik is under way after it emerged that he began his deadly “crusade” after meeting other Right-wing extremists in London.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ng-Breivik.html
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@DA

I just hope these witnesses aren't barraged into "believing" that they must be "wrong". Those already on record as saying this may just be the tip of the iceberg.

Even this asshole may not have known that there was another sniper (if it is true - which I'm leaning towards).

You've got the cops who are already trying to cover their asses over their admitted alleged "55 minute"
response time (a sunken boat, "no helicopters" and the Norwegian SWAT team having to allegedly drive 38 f*ing miles to get to the shore). Now this may have been the case but the prospect of admitting that there was a "second gunman" witnessed and the whole scenario that goes with it will be blocked at all costs, from without and within.

There's also (what may have been a slip of the tongue) the Norwegian Police Commisioner's claim that he surrendered "when his name was called".

I've partially read extracts of this guy's "manifesto". 1500 pages? The guy allegedly spent hours upon hours on the internet posting long winded posts all over the net. "World of Warcraft"? Hours and hours.

In between, he was meant to have organied and plotted this op? "Experimented" with explosives (in what spare time I don't know..)

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Monday June 13 2011

I prepared a test device today and drove off to a very isolated site. I lit the fuse, went out of range and waited. It was probably the longest 10 seconds I have ever endured...
BOOM! The detonation was successful!!!:-) I quickly drove away to avoid any potential unwanted attention, from people in the vicinity. I would have to come back a few hours later to investigate the blast hole, to see if both compounds had detonated


He "lit the fuse"?? No timer?

In between, he allegedly travelled through and had online discussions with "far right movements"

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I came in contact with Serbian cultural conservatives through the internet. This initial contact would eventually result in my contact with several key individuals all over Europe and the forming of the group who would later establish the military order and tribunal, PCCTS, Knights Templar..."
"I met with them for the first time in London... the founding session in London, 2002. I was the youngest one there, 23 years old at the time. I believe I scribbled down more than 50 full pages of notes regarding all possible related topics


He had no military training. None. His manifesto points to him "training" on the "World of Warcraft" (right name??) video game:

(IMG:http://wikileaksreputationcrisis.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/breivik-2083-manifiesto-modern-warfare-2-as-shooting-training-mri-universidad-de-navarra.gif)

and his access to weaponry was allegedly limited:

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August 2010

I'm preparing for a car trip to Prague to establish a weapons connection for the acquisition of an assault rifle, a glock, splint grenades and AP ammo (grenades and AP ammo is a bonus). Prague is known for being maybe the most important transit point for illicit drugs and weapons in Europe.

Day 5 in Prague. I'm getting desperate. This is the first major setback for me during my operation. I am so disappointed by myself. I realize now that Prague is far from the ideal city when looking to buy arms.

September 2010

I have now sent an application for a Ruger Mini 14 semi-automatic rifle (5.56). It is the most "army like" rifle allowed in Norway,


It's a joke. Sorry for the info overload but this guy has been eating my brain all day.

Did he blindside his handlers? Was he meant to top himself? Was he meant to survive to tell his story? Were they aware of his "manifesto"? <<< my brain lol

I hope to God he's messed their plans up.
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Thanks for the thread guys, was offline all weekend so it was a quick way to catch up while avoiding the MSM. These nutter types nowadays always seem to have a voluminous back story built on the internet so there is no doubt on their "motives". I believe the witnesses on the second shooter - let's face it for the most traumatic experience of your life, you are going to be fairly observant especially of somebody shooting at you. Similar to Port Arthur, Columbine and maybe even Dunblane - there's the guys who are there to take the blame and then the backups who make sure the desired effect is achieved.
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post Jul 24 2011, 06:30 PM
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He says he prepared for this whole thing for years.

Given the fact that he can hardly have known about a meeting of the Labour Party youth league there years in advance, I don't think that's what he meant...
But he may nevertheless have been "prepared" for something like this for years. I just hope they catch the second guy; that would blow the 'lone nutcase'-principle straight out of the water.

It remains to be seen where all of this ultimately goes.

I always thought it strange that Neo-Nazi groups should have any kind of following in a place like Norway.
When the German Navy turned up in Oslo-Fjord, the Norwegians did not exactly shower them with roses; instead they blew the cruiser 'Blücher' straight out of the water, and took the second-in-line 'Lützow' out of action...
Norway was occupied by German troops for years; and there was preciously little love lost between the German occupation-troops and the Norwegian resistance.

The only exception happened to be Vidkun Quisling and his followers. He was shot in 1945.

(Edit:) Interesting to note-- he described that British Neo-Nazi group ("English Defense League") as 'naive fools'.
The meeting he had involved delegates from France, Germany, Greece, the Netherlands and Russia- plus two Englishmen who supposedly organised the thing, and "Richard".

Far more interesting than any mere Neo-Nazi group...

He send that manifesto to more than five and a half thousand people by email- hours before the attacks.

Now-- why do I get the feeling he was not supposed to do that...?


(Edit 2:) Hmmm.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQTvQwhwWQ

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He send that manifesto to more than five and a half thousand people by email- hours before the attacks.

Now-- why do I get the feeling he was not supposed to do that...?


Really??

He was alleged to have posted the pdf the same day as the attacks. I had always thought that sending e-mails en bloc would be immediately put into the spam bin (I tried it before when I sent CIT's NSA video to all of the listed TV and radio companies)

Hopefully they've underestimated this guy's narcissism. Did you see the photo of him with a gas mask and "silver suit" (with emblem)?

On the Oslo bomb attack, just when was he supposed to have left this "carbomb" (which would have had to have been a van given fertilizer was allegedly used) outside an important government building? He allegedly drove another vehicle to the island. Oh, and he had to "light the fuse"... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) after he went for a "suntanning session".
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IRA-carbombs were often home-made concoctions involving fertilizer; they usually made use of either electronic timers or remote-controlled triggers.
I'm still waiting for any statements from the police in that regard; so far it has been the media who have been speculating that it was home-made, I think.

If he had to 'light' the fuse, it would mean something like this, I would imagine:

http://www.safetyfuse.in/safety%20fuse%20msds.pdf

As for that picture- yep; I saw that... Robo-Cop. King-sized ego, alright...

Quite interesting. He seems to fancy himself as some sort of knight in shiny armour. Women's man. Gets upset when he gets by-passed by women-- especially if he gets by-passed for someone who looks oriental:
No wonder. He's Nordic and blonde; if a woman prefers someone who is dark-skinned and oriental-looking, he has no way of competing...

The guy in that video (Edit 2 above), Ulav Anderssen, steted that he could not have imagined this guy doing something like this; he says "He must have been brainwashed".

I would imagine someone who has an inflated ego-- based on an inferiority-complex-- to be wide open to manipulation. I get the feeling that someone made Mr. Breivik's dreams come true...
The 'Knight-in-shiny-armour'-thing, based on the medieval Knight's Templar of the crusades.

(...And perhaps someone should explain to Mr. Breivik the meaning of the code of chivalry...)
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of course, his major error was not having access to drones and the usmc for the murdering of civilians, the destruction of countries.

and like almost all leaders of nato countries over the last decade[at the minimum], he left a manifesto of homicidal lunacy and the rationale for his exoneration.

was it stalin who once said that mass murder implemented by the state and its leaders is always excused, but that it is those freelance efforts that are condemned?

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of course, his major error was not having access to drones and the usmc for the murdering of civilians, the destruction of countries.


Oohhh-- he would have loved that...

Well, let's see--

This is what wikipedia has to say about the Knights Templar:

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Knights were to take their meals in silence, eat meat no more than three times per week, and not have physical contact of any kind with women, even members of their own family.


I wonder if the ladie's man knew about that.

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The red cross that the Templars wore on their robes was a symbol of martyrdom, and to die in combat was considered a great honor that assured a place in heaven.
There was a cardinal rule that the warriors of the Order should never surrender unless the Templar flag had fallen, and even then they were first to try to regroup with another of the Christian orders, such as that of the Hospitallers.
Only after all flags had fallen were they allowed to leave the battlefield.


...And so he just dropped his gun and surrendered without a fight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar

And about chivalry:

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Christianity had a modifying influence on the classical concept of heroism and virtue, nowadays identified with the virtues of chivalry. The Peace and Truce of God in the 10th century was one such example, with limits placed on knights to protect and honor the weaker members of society and also help the church maintain peace.


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In the 11th century the concept of a "knight of Christ" (miles Christi) gained currency in France, Spain and Italy. These concepts of "religious chivalry" were further elaborated in the era of the Crusades, with the Crusades themselves often being seen as a chivalrous enterprise. Their ideas of chivalry were also further influenced by Saladin, who was viewed as a chivalrous knight by medieval Christian writers.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry

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i suppose there is the romantic[fictional] version of the templars. and undoubtedly there is a more realistic version.

at its heart, weren't the templars an anti-islamic, lunatic christian cult dedicated to driving their vision of "infidels" out of jerusalem[the christian holy land]?

there are some who argue that the templars were not exterminated with the burning of jacques demolay, nor the excommunication bull of the avignon[sic] papacy. that the templars became the salient secret order of the modern scottish rite of freemasonry. and leading protestants.

there are also many who argue[sometimes convincingly] that the skull & bones club at yale is a templar lodge. and that its members who became recent presidents of the usa[george herbert walker bush, george walker bush, and perhaps even william jefferson clinton as a post-graduate initiate] have all pursued objectives that might be better thought of as templar-inspired[in the sense that their objectives may not have been in the interest of the usa].

to my way of thinking, you cannot worry about the freelance homicidal maniacs, as there is really no way to protect yourself from them unless one welcomes a massive state-sanctioned psychological examination/evaluation of all residents of a country.

the individuals i worry about are those sociopathic/psychopathic individuals that have been allowed to escape mental scrutiny because of their place in the political hierarchy.

george herbert walker bush, james baker, bill clinton, al gore, madeline albright, george walker bush, barry obombya have been responsible for the mass murderings of scores of thousands, perhaps even scores of millions, of noncombatants. yet, they escape all opprobrium. which we decide to reserve for this solo lunatic.

are we misplacing our priorities?




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DA, what's the source for the 5500 e mails mate?

He was claimed to have uploaded a video too regarding his "manifesto" "hours before/just before" (depending on source). All of these internet actions can't be done by mobile phone/"app" can they?

If they were all done at his supposed geofarm, a quick GoogleEarth search shows that Breivik Geofarm is 221km from Oslo (3h 15mins by car according to GE - it's way out in the sticks).

From his "diary":

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Saturday July 2 Going over the travel route for both plan A and B for the upcoming event, familiarising myself with the driving routes and plotting in destinations in my Garmin GPS … I took my mom out to dinner this evening


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Monday July 18 After dark, I loaded everything in the van … Exhausted!!! Good workout though. Im drinking 4 x protein shakes per day now to maximise muscle generation. At this point I should be fearful, but I'm just too exhausted to think much about it.


I'm guessing his story will be that he had parked the car/van bomb the day before in a parking lot, drove down to Oslo with all of his ammo/explosives, drove the van/car bomb (if they say "car", I call bs) to the government buildings (CCTV? Security?), abandoned it, got back to his other vehicle and drove to Utoya.

Busy day.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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QUOTE (albertchampion)
george herbert walker bush, james baker, bill clinton, al gore, madeline albright, george walker bush, barry obombya have been responsible for the mass murderings of scores of thousands, perhaps even scores of millions, of noncombatants. yet, they escape all opprobrium. which we decide to reserve for this solo lunatic.


Dropping a bomb on an Iraqi hospital, napalm on a Vietnamese village, dropping 2 million tons of rubble on to New Yorkers and this guy's deeds are one and the same. Shows the difference when the media are on your side.



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The Knights Templar initiall were required to be poor; that was symbolised by a seal showing two knights riding on one horse.

When they returned from the crusades, they very much rode their own horses. But plunder was not the only thing they brought back; they also came across Arabic translations of ancient texts, like the writings of Plato and other Greek philosophers.
The church saw these writings as heresy; possession of texts like that was strictly forbidden.

The Templars gained more influence and power than the church was willing to accept; as that article mentions, they also introduced an early form of banking- and those owing them money had little interest in having to repay them.

One way or another- they were no more lunatic than any of the other orders; and while the principles of chivalry were often enough ignored during the crusades, they did have a real meaning which had very little to do with the romantic ideas of the nineteenth century.
The problem was that the period when these rules were well and truly honoured only lasted for a few generations; after that, the knights discovered that it was much easier to squeeze the life-blood out of the peasants than to be virtuous.

That article mentions Saladin. The reason why christian writers saw him as a chivalrous knight originates with stories like this one:
A Frankish woman's child had been abducted by slave traders. The knights in the Frankish camp suggested to her that she should go to Saladin's camp and ask for an audience.
She did that, and Saladin returned her child-- personally...

Breivik's head was filled with a load of bullshit which has little to do with reality.
When I said that someone should confront him with the code of chivalry, I meant that quite literally...
It might penetrate the brainwashing.

Apparently he intends to use the hearing which is scheduled as a platform; he wants it to be public, and he wants to wear a 'uniform' (His lawyer said he has no idea what kind of 'uniform' he's talking about; but I'd be surprised if it doesn't have something resembling the insignia of the Knights Templar on it.)

That group he's been waffling on about is no ordinary group of rightwing radicals; this whole thing reeks of secret service. If that's the case, then Breivik and his friends may well provide a way of getting to the more interesting people.

As I said before-- the moment this story turned up, the media had no choice but to concentrate on this.
Murdoch and his grip on the media and on politics suddenly took second- or third place.
Considering that there are quite a few questions in respect of Fox News and the hacking of phones belonging to 9/11 victims, and considering that it's the control excerted over the media by the perpetrators which has prevented any real questions regarding 9/11 to be asked, priorities here are everything BUT misplaced.

@onesliceshort-- It's the link in post #46:

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Breivik spent nine years planning Friday’s atrocity, and spent three years writing his manifesto A European Declaration of Independence, which was emailed to 5,700 people hours before he detonated a bomb in Oslo.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ng-Breivik.html


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post Jul 24 2011, 10:24 PM
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@onesliceshort-- It's the link in post #46:


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He added that most of those at the meeting “were successful entrepreneurs, business or political leaders”

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He also said an Englishman became his mentor. “He was the one who first described the 'perfect knight’ … let’s call him Richard.”


I think the "Richard" he's referring to is Richard III?

The "lone nut" tag falls apart when you look at his Euro connections with whoever these guys were and that if he did go to Prague to buy arms, who tipped him off as to who to contact?

This reeks of black op and I pray that this has gone "off script".
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post Jul 24 2011, 10:36 PM
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If this has anything to do with any organisation similar to 'Gladio', this guy may well have been brainwashed; I'd be surprised if the kind of people involved with the original 'Gladio'-units and those involved in programs like MK-Ultra didn't at least know each other.
After all-- even Gladio-agents must be assumed to have a conscience; shooting dozens of kids has so desperately little to do with protecting the homeland...

The international nature of that group he describes is interesting; if that group really exists in that form, then those people were representatives of whatever organisation they belong to in their home countries.
Why would Breivik be invited to a meeting with that kind of flavour, I wonder?
Merely as a representative for Norway...?
Must be an important personage then, Mr. Breivik...

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I think the "Richard" he's referring to is Richard III?


Richard I, more like...

Which is even worse. Richard Coeur de Lion and Salah-ad-Din highly respected each other- to the point where Saladin asked Richard to bestow a knighthood upon his own son.
Instead of lobbing the young man's head off, Richard did exactly that... He knighted him.

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Must be an important personage then, Mr. Breivik...


Or he had the perfect profile for grooming. 3 alleged failed businesses (the "immigrants" must have dunnit), narcissistic tendencies, fantasist (world of warcraft - look at the images he posted of himself) and he already had the racist streak in him (which he denies). Somebody, this "Richard" must have had quite an effect on him. 9 years of mental moulding later and..

But can you groom somebody to cold bloodedly kill kids at point blank range? Witnesses claim that he was calling them over saying "I won't hurt you". His first kill? He definitely appeared to have a sadistic streak and had no conscience.

I hope the Norwegian cops have the balls (and aren't infiltrated) to keep digging. The Norwegian people won't let this rest. He murdered their kids (and well to do kids at that).
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Found these snippets (not worth linking to)

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Anders Behring Breivik is a diplomat's son who spent the first year of his life in London.
A wealth of details has emerged about the privileged life of the 32-year-old, much of it from his rambling online 'manifesto'.
Described by friends as a 'mummy's boy' who did not leave home until the age of 30, he had few friends and no serious girlfriends and his writings betray a deep bitterness at being abandoned by his father at the age of 15.


Breivik was born in February 1979. His father Jens was an economist at the Norwegian Embassy in London.
His parents split when he was just a year old, and his father remained in London, while Anders and his mother Wenche Behring, a nurse, moved back to Oslo, along with her daughter Elisabeth from a previous relationship.
They settled in a rented apartment where he stayed with his 64-year-old mother until just two years ago, his sister having moved to California.


He also criticised his sister for having too many sexual partners, and condemned his mother’s ‘lack of judgment’ in marrying his stepfather Tore, a major in the Norwegian military.

Breivik bragged how he dodged his mandatory military service in the Norwegian Army three times by claiming he would not put his life on the line for Norway’s political parties.


Bedtime...
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