Chemtrails - A Breakthrough Options

[Timothy Osman]

I have a silly question. If these are not normal airline flights flying at their normal times and courses but covert military flights, why not spray at night? It would be a bit more covert.

[grizz]

They do spray at night.

[lunk]

Has anyone noticed the ELF waves in the clouds?

They appear as parallel and curved lines of cloud,
they are easier to see with polarized glasses.

I have even seen them as dark/light bands in overcast sky.

[Timothy Osman]

I'll keep watching the sky's and shut up then. For the record I have been straining my neck for a while down here now and have seen only one dodgy looking trail. The rest I can reason to be normal air traffic, on a cold morning in Casino where I work from time to time in construction the south to north commuter flights tack overhead and dissipate in the warmer air as they get farther North. It looks alarmingly like a hell of a lot of Chemtrail video's. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)

[bill]

Has anyone noticed the ELF waves in the clouds?

They appear as parallel and curved lines of cloud,
they are easier to see with polarized glasses.

I have even seen them as dark/light bands in overcast sky.

Yes I have noticed this

Also I have noticed distinct patterns in the trails that are at different dirctions as if the wind were blowing from differnet directions at the same time (clearly not caused by wind IOW)


I have also noticed 'holes' in chemtrails

[lunk]

Iridescent clouds and sometimes a large ring around the sun with bright spots.
I think in the far North they call them sun dogs.
I haven't noticed these phenomena before.

[Quest]

Chemtrail Plane Photographed
On The Ground
http://www.rense.com/general81/ddthr.htm

By posting this I am not suggesting this IS a chemtaril plane but wanted to get some opinions. What does anyone make of this plane and "pod"?

[lunk]

It makes sense that they use airplanes from foreign countries to spray us with, and to paint them indistinguishable from the sky.

Two little points that make me think this is a "spray" plane.

imo, lunk

[trainer]

It makes sense that they use airplanes from foreign countries to spray us with, and to paint them indistinguishable from the sky.

Two little points that make me think this is a "spray" plane.

imo, lunk

Wow! That's unbelievable. What a compelling piece of photographic evidence. This is obviously a military aircraft. Can anyone I.D. the type of plane? Airbus? What the hell else could those "pods" be used for? It's obvious it's for spraying, the only question to me is what it sprays. Does anyone know if NATO aircraft display NATO markings? My guess is probably some, although I'll bet that aircraft flying their national emblems fly NATO missions too.

This post has been edited by trainer: May 12 2008, 01:16 PM

[trainer]

Another typical "sprayday" here in Chicago. They started about 10:00 am and are playing tic-tac-toe in the sky right above us. Some are checkerboard and some are Xs at oblique angles to each other. The sky started as beautiful and cloudless, a deep blue of which we're all familiar. At 12:00 pm I can walk outside and count 10 chemtrails. The older ones are already beginning to diffuse and spread out as they begin to fall to the ground. The western horizon is already getting that milky - silvery haze that they leave behind.
Just another day in chemtrail paradise!

[dMz]

Iridescent clouds and sometimes a large ring around the sun with bright spots.
I think in the far North they call them sun dogs.
I haven't noticed these phenomena before.

My understanding is that [not so North] Native Americans called the [usually pair of] spots "sun dogs" too, and they had a significance regarding the weather, but I don't remember what that meaning is now.

I see "sun dogs" frequently in the freshly-sprayed "oily" skies above the Southwest (but I never see chemtrails over a military base for some reason. Spew planes must not like F16's. Hmmm...).

[grizz]

It's a heavy spray day here as well, and there is one of those manmade sundogs in the sky. Prior to chemtrails, sundogs were quite rare. Natural ones generally occur in a mostly clear sky and are caused by light refracting through ice crystals in the upper atmosphere. Here are some photos of one I took in late 1986 at Chaco Canyon in New Mexico.

(IMG:http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/chainlighting/gallaria/sundog2.jpg)

(IMG:http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p9/chainlighting/gallaria/sundog1.jpg)

[lunk]

Yes, that's exactly what I was talking about, the point where the rainbow is, is sometimes as blindingly bright as the sun. It's almost like the refractive index of the atmosphere is changing.

Huge circular concentric perfect rings of clouds in the sky over head today,
South Central BC at aprox. 3:00 pm.

Weather modification or mind control...
I don't know.

Can a tap on a keyboard cause an earthquake in Japan?
I don't know.

But perfect circles of clouds in the sky aren't made by nature.

imo, lunk

Always looking up,
and watching out.

[lunk]

Huge circular concentric perfect rings of clouds in the sky over head today,
South Central BC at aprox. 3:00 pm.

Weather modification or mind control...
I don't know.

Can a tap on a keyboard cause an earthquake in Japan?
I don't know.

But perfect circles of clouds in the sky aren't made by nature.

imo, lunk

Always looking up,
and watching out.

or an earthquake in china:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1951973/Ch...ain-buried.html

"The earthquake, which has now been upgraded to a 7.9 magnitude, shook Chengdu, the capital of Sichuan province, at around 3:10 pm (0710 GMT) on Monday."

I have heard that these waves can cause ripples elsewhere,
that could be quite ground shaking.

another coincidence?

I don't know.

lunk

[Ricochet]

Here is some of my research.
http://cryptome.org/weather-war.pdf
http://cryptome.org/weather-war2.pdf
http://cryptome.org/weather-war3.pdf
More to follow.

[SwingDangler]

Chemtrail Ad taken out in California newspaper.

The key points to the add are:

1. 3 dozen certified lab tests show levels of barium, aerosol, strontium "off the charts" in dust, secluded pond water, drinking water, snow packs, and rain.

2. April 1990 U.S. Govt. patent for particle seeding by aircraft to counter global warming.

There is a lot more in the add that is quite astounding.

The scan of the add can be found here: Are We The Experiment?

I think that it can be shown that there are not so covert aerial aerosol spraying operations occurring not only in this country but world wide. Chemtrails should no longer be relegated to the shelf of conspiracy theories.

[grizz]

The fact that they can be predicted is further proof that they are real. And yes, they are spraying here today. Having followed the forecasts for days on end I can safely say that there will be no spraying in this area tomorrow.

Some people in my town are almost up in arms over chemtrails. Myself, I came to peace with them some time ago, and mostly just enjoy photographing them.

[dMz]

Here is one of the stranger "sun dogs" that I ever remember seeing. It could be ice crystals, virga/snow, or some kind of aerosol precipitate. It looks like quite a high refractive index to me though. I took this while traveling on I84 in the Northwestern US- Dec. 30, I believe.

http://flickcabin.com/public/view/full/17800

[dMz]

I think that it can be shown that there are not so covert aerial aerosol spraying operations occurring not only in this country but world wide. Chemtrails should no longer be relegated to the shelf of conspiracy theories.

Hi SD,

My research indicates this is mainly a "NATO country" phenomenon of late. Bill has indicated there were none over SE Asia recently IIRC. I haven't heard whether Africa has them, but there is no shortage of genocidal "population control," AIDS, starvation, etc. there either.

[ogrady]

I am increasingly interested in these ELF waves or whatever they are.

Yesterday I observed a mixed sky in the afternoon. There was a large aerosol area floating above me and some more normal looking clouds around it. There were mixed, regular lines in all of this cloud mixture, going in different directions. The lines were finer and more intense in the aerosol than in regular clouds, giving it a crinkled, intricate texture.

I noticed later in the evening that the regular stripes in the more normal looking clouds had the effect of separating them into sections that floated further and further apart. Maybe they are using these waves as weather manipulation experiments - breaking up cloud banks. After all, the military plans to 'own the weather' by 2025. (My guess is, they already do.)

What do you think?

I plan on getting a digital camera and learning how to post these pictures on this site.