Brand New Aa77 Readout Options

[UnderTow]

Fresh food.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=4574

Thanks

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

You got your work cut out for you, the neutralizers are out in full force...

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...view=getnewpost

Keep kicking up dust guys.

[UnderTow]

Let's see, how do I say this..
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1) The FDR did not record the final seconds of Flight 77. There is up to 2 seconds missing.
Maybe, becuase there sure is no impact, or pole snapping, or ground dragging recorded. In fact, it's too high, so yes, some time is missing.

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10) Any analysis must account for (or justify ignoring) these issues in order to draw any valid conclusions.
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Okay, that's better. Now we can get on with the other stuff.

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[behind]

It seems to me that some people are getting very upset already.

But ... I am not an expert of any kind... but I can understand that the FDR does not support the official story.

This key evidence does not support the official story.

I mean... people can spin up this or that ... trying to find some excuses.

But I dont belive that it will hold any water.

Most people will understand that something is clearly rotten in Danmark.

This post has been edited by behind: Feb 7 2007, 02:19 PM

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

Behind, post UT's reponse. I am trying to get a new account there.

[Aldo Marquis CIT]

BTW,

Just so every knows it and can compare, here is the flight path we have confirmed through witnesses.

It only goes back as far as the Army Navy Country club, about 1-2 miles back.

The plane made a lazy S.

(IMG:http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Mercury2/paranoiaswitnessandtheflightpath.jpg)

This post has been edited by Merc: Feb 7 2007, 02:23 PM

[behind]

Behind, post UT's reponse. I am trying to get a new account there.

Yes.

But the problem is that some people are getting very upset over there and my english is so bad that it is hard for me to debat all this spin back and forth etc.

[rob balsamo]

Let's see, how do I say this..
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1) The FDR did not record the final seconds of Flight 77. There is up to 2 seconds missing.
Maybe, becuase there sure is no impact, or pole snapping, or ground dragging recorded. In fact, it's too high, so yes, some time is missing.

They need 6-8, eight seconds based on radar altitude and vertical speed. Period.

[rob balsamo]

10) Any analysis must account for (or justify ignoring) these issues in order to draw any valid conclusions.
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Okay, that's better. Now we can get on with the other stuff.

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agreed... the people who ignore the evidence as provided by the NTSB seem to want to fill their own agenda.

[UnderTow]

A picture of the new readout's lift off recorderings for Lat/Lon.
The single mark to the lower right is where it was at the previous engine shutoff.

(IMG:http://www.aa77fdr.com/readout2/Takeoff.jpg)

[rob balsamo]

Thats gonna confuse people.. you should make the picture north up.


good work tho..

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[UnderTow]

Just wanted to show how it lined up with the runway.

Behind, if you quote me in another forum, please quote wrap the whole thing so the 'effect' is not lost (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) thanks

[rob balsamo]

Just wanted to show how it lined up with the runway.

Behind, if you quote me in another forum, please quote wrap the whole thing so the 'effect' is not lost (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) thanks

Well.. i dont think it will confuse many of our members.. but it might confuse some of our 'guests'. Oh well... no biggie.

[behind]

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Behind, if you quote me in another forum, please quote wrap the whole thing so the 'effect' is not lost (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) thanks

Yes. Ok. It was a mistake...sorry. I guess I did not understand your 'effect' until to late. (my bad english... again...sorry)

And btw. I want to Thank you for all the work you have done on the FDR issue.

For some reason I have always from when I started to research Pentagon, speculate: How was the final flight pat? How was it possible? etc.

Since it was obvious that no camera capture this (and then I count out the strange blurry image from the DoD video)... the last hope was the FDR.

Now I know how the FDR show this magic flight... it does NOT. It show something else than the official story.

But I have been assure for a long time that no B757 hit the Pentagon 9/11... and I simply cant understand why everybody else can not see that the official story is impossible... not because of one thing or two... rather because, that all part of the hole Pentagon story just does not add up in any way (that is my opinion)

(And of cource I like to thank Jdx (Rob) for all his great work.)

ps. and it is very strange to suddenly have the radar altitude... it is nearly... to much!

This post has been edited by behind: Feb 7 2007, 05:31 PM

[UnderTow]

Here's one thing I wanted to do. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Green P9-P0 is night before engine off
Red M1 is at the Terminal
Yellow M2 is backed out and start of Taxi
Red M3 is Radio Alt 3 Feet, 1st indication of lift off
(IMG:http://www.aa77fdr.com/readout2/LNTTTPos.jpg)

I did not map all, beause of repeatings. Only the take off represents one Mark per second.

I'd say that Interntia Positional system is pretty damn accurate. If you slide that path up, and maybe a smidge to the right.

[rob balsamo]

I'd say that Interntia Positional system is pretty damn accurate. If you slide that path up, and maybe a smidge to the right.

Good work UT.

I emailed you.. .dont know if you got it yet.

That green looks like the aircraft was towed to overnight parking. And then towed to the gate in the morning. I can figure out exactly what gate it was pushed from when i get the chance.. .but for now, i need the information contained in the email.


Cheers!
Rob

[UnderTow]

Now when you adjust the ending by the offset (which is about 5-15degrees and 3200 feet) you get this. Blue Marks are per second end recordings, white line is rough 3200 foot ruler of roughly the right angle.

(IMG:http://www.aa77fdr.com/readout2/Final60CountPosAdjRough.jpg)

[UnderTow]

Replied to you.

"There were no problems or delays in loading the data and seeing that the file is good.
About 11-13 flights were evident just by displaying airspeed in graph for the length of the file."

"We tried to export CSV the entire file for all params but gave up after a long time. We estimated the resulting CSV would have been huge and taken hours to process. You wouldn't even be able to begin to look at it unless you put it in a database. It would have been great to have, but oh well."

[rob balsamo]

Moved your original points up to match.

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[rob balsamo]

Replied to you.

"There were no problems or delays in loading the data and seeing that the file is good.
About 11-13 flights were evident just by displaying airspeed in graph for the length of the file."

"We tried to export CSV the entire file for all params but gave up after a long time. We estimated the resulting CSV would have been huge and taken hours to process. You wouldn't even be able to begin to look at it unless you put it in a database. It would have been great to have, but oh well."

You emailed me back? Im not getting my emails now... been having problems latey... ugh!

Call me when you get a chance. Does this mean we have or we do not have 11-13 flights? Or just their lat/long? hopefully? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)