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Facts About The Shanksville Crater. Put Some Bad Theories To Rest., Images show that the crater was not caused by a boeing 757

Godspeed2012
post Feb 14 2014, 12:35 AM
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These "wing scars" are not caused by wings. They are caused by water. The crater in shanksville that is claimed to be caused by a Boeing 757 was not caused by one at all but by something much smaller. If it was caused by it was caused by a cruise missile or small craft, the weathered scar was used as a target.

The fact that the crash site was meters away from Rollock Scrap yard which you can find connections there but thats another story.

Here is an image of a scar I found not too far from the crater site. Its not a rare feature.

Here is another. These scars were not caused by missiles or planes.

Here is an image of was is usually confused for a vertical stabilizer but I have yet to find a official account stating that the wing and tail scars were actually caused by a plane on 911.



This image shows you the crater that was most likely caused on 911. Too small for a Boeing 757, obviously.
I Hilighted the drainage into the "wing scar"

We can speculate about what caused the small 10 foot wide crater but whatever it was it crashed or targeted the old gash in the ground and WAS NOT A BOEING 757.

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Obwon
post Feb 14 2014, 08:30 AM
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If I recall correctly, the plane was supposed to have hit the ground intact and buried itself several feet underground. While another 2 planes, the ones that hit the towers, supposedly either vaporized on impact, which was calculated to require a speed of 5 miles per second, or they completely entered the buildings also without breaking apart. All we have been told is extremely unlikely to say the least. But hey, who knows, eh? (wink)
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post Feb 14 2014, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE (Obwon @ Feb 14 2014, 07:30 AM) *
If I recall correctly, the plane was supposed to have hit the ground intact and buried itself several feet underground. While another 2 planes, the ones that hit the towers, supposedly either vaporized on impact, which was calculated to require a speed of 5 miles per second, or they completely entered the buildings also without breaking apart. All we have been told is extremely unlikely to say the least. But hey, who knows, eh? (wink)

My USA today from September 12th quoted Carl Ray Landis, a 'contractor' from Somerset, PA, and his Nephew Carl Young, who were driving their pickup and saw the plane come straight down into the ground totally intact. Obvious BS. Paid shills. They still had an address in Somerset as of a couple years ago. Doubt that it is real.
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post Mar 3 2014, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE (amillionto1 @ Feb 14 2014, 08:16 AM) *
My USA today from September 12th quoted Carl Ray Landis, a 'contractor' from Somerset, PA, and his Nephew Carl Young, who were driving their pickup and saw the plane come straight down into the ground totally intact. Obvious BS. Paid shills. They still had an address in Somerset as of a couple years ago. Doubt that it is real.


Working from memory of the area, I don't believe that anyone on the ground had any sight lines to the actual impact. We saw the film of the lady on the road and all she could see in that direction was trees. The Arial maps, if I recall correctly, do not show any roads immediately adjacent to the crash site, which is probably the reason that site was picked. The "crater" looks more like something scooped out by a backhoe, and the grass at the edges is not singed or soot covered.

The "Jill Shively" photo of the crash plume is a fake, enlarged to a size where the pixels can be seen, the pixel blocks in the lower half do not match the pixel blocks in the sky which is smoothly pixelated. Also, again iirc the sky appears pasted in such away that at least one tree top is clearly obliterated. Not to mention that other analysts of photo data have taken issue with the nature of the plume itself.
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post Mar 3 2014, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 26 2014, 06:31 PM) *
We now have three posters in this thread alone who have surfaced out of no where, averaging two or three posts a year, or less in the case of amillionto1.

amillionto1 (Mar '08) 2 posts total on Feb 26, 2014
Godspeed2012 (Sep '09) 14 posts total on Feb 26, 2014
WhisperingWnd (Jan '10) 8 posts total on Feb 26, 2014

What compelled them/him/her to post to this thread?

I said it before and I'll say it again.
Please stick around folks, I'm looking forward to more of your intellectual contributions to this forum!

Please prove me wrong; that you aren't shills/socks.

np1mike, even though i too am curious when i see new posts by seldom-posting "old" users (as in having registered a long time ago and been relatively quiet since), in this instance i find that your suspicions are misplaced. if these 3 posters were alleging that a plane had crashed in shanksville, then sure - give em hell, but it seems all 3 basically agree that the official shanksville story is bullshit. they arent pushing shoot-down theories either, so im not sure why you're being so tough on them. we welcome civil, rational, intellectually-honest debate, and even if it is perhaps a bit redundant, we dont mind the rehashing of already-known and mostly-accepted and agreed upon research (yes most of us here agree that the hole in shanksville was not caused by an aircraft having crashed there).



QUOTE (Obwon @ Mar 3 2014, 12:36 PM) *
The "Jill Shively" photo of the crash plume is a fake, enlarged to a size where the pixels can be seen, the pixel blocks in the lower half do not match the pixel blocks in the sky which is smoothly pixelated. Also, again iirc the sky appears pasted in such away that at least one tree top is clearly obliterated. Not to mention that other analysts of photo data have taken issue with the nature of the plume itself.

obwon, i believe you mean the val mcclatchey photo - jill shively is a name related to the oj simpson trial.
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- Godspeed2012   Facts About The Shanksville Crater. Put Some Bad Theories To Rest.   Feb 14 2014, 12:35 AM
- - Godspeed2012   Here is another image showing the drainage. Never ...   Feb 14 2014, 12:40 AM
- - Obwon   If I recall correctly, the plane was supposed to ...   Feb 14 2014, 08:30 AM
|- - amillionto1   QUOTE (Obwon @ Feb 14 2014, 07:30 AM) If ...   Feb 14 2014, 09:16 AM
|- - Godspeed2012   QUOTE (amillionto1 @ Feb 14 2014, 08:16 A...   Feb 14 2014, 09:25 AM
|- - WhisperingWnd   QUOTE (amillionto1 @ Feb 14 2014, 08:16 A...   Feb 25 2014, 03:50 PM
|- - Obwon   QUOTE (amillionto1 @ Feb 14 2014, 08:16 A...   Mar 3 2014, 01:36 PM
|- - paranoia   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 26 2014, 06:31 PM) W...   Mar 3 2014, 07:54 PM
|- - NP1Mike   QUOTE (paranoia @ Mar 3 2014, 06:54 PM) n...   Mar 3 2014, 08:19 PM
|- - Obwon   QUOTE (paranoia @ Mar 3 2014, 06:54 PM) ...   Mar 4 2014, 08:45 AM
- - NP1Mike   Never mind the crater. What I find much more intr...   Feb 15 2014, 02:38 AM
|- - Godspeed2012   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 15 2014, 01:38 AM) N...   Feb 16 2014, 11:53 PM
|- - NP1Mike   QUOTE (Godspeed2012 @ Feb 16 2014, 10:53 ...   Feb 17 2014, 12:31 AM
|- - Godspeed2012   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 16 2014, 11:31 PM) ...   Feb 17 2014, 02:45 AM
||- - Godspeed2012   The missile pod/killtown wash was weak. This site ...   Feb 17 2014, 11:55 PM
|- - Godspeed2012   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 16 2014, 11:31 PM) I...   Feb 19 2014, 10:27 AM
|- - Obwon   QUOTE (Godspeed2012 @ Feb 19 2014, 09:27 ...   Feb 19 2014, 01:59 PM
|- - NP1Mike   QUOTE (Godspeed2012 @ Feb 19 2014, 09:27 ...   Feb 19 2014, 06:09 PM
- - Godspeed2012   RE: Facts About The Shanksville Crater. Put Some Bad Theories To Rest.   Feb 16 2014, 11:54 PM
- - NP1Mike   I still maintain what I said earlier in this post ...   Feb 26 2014, 07:31 PM
|- - WhisperingWnd   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 26 2014, 06:31 PM) I...   Feb 27 2014, 03:42 PM
||- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (WhisperingWnd @ Feb 27 2014, 08:42...   Mar 2 2014, 05:31 PM
||- - WhisperingWnd   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 2 2014, 0...   Mar 2 2014, 06:36 PM
||- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (WhisperingWnd @ Mar 2 2014, 11:36 ...   Mar 2 2014, 07:16 PM
||- - WhisperingWnd   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Mar 2 2014, 0...   Mar 2 2014, 08:08 PM
|- - Godspeed2012   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Feb 26 2014, 06:31 PM) I...   Mar 2 2014, 10:46 AM
- - Godspeed2012   As you can see the crater was not caused by a Boei...   Mar 2 2014, 10:57 AM
- - Godspeed2012   thats great. What do you think of the wings scar...   Mar 2 2014, 10:53 PM
- - WhisperingWnd   QUOTE (Godspeed2012 @ Feb 13 2014, 11:35 ...   Mar 2 2014, 10:59 PM
|- - Godspeed2012   QUOTE (WhisperingWnd @ Mar 2 2014, 09:59 ...   Mar 3 2014, 09:42 AM
|- - WhisperingWnd   QUOTE (Godspeed2012 @ Mar 3 2014, 08:42 A...   Mar 3 2014, 10:57 AM
- - paranoia   np1mike - fair enough, but we try to be hospitable...   Mar 4 2014, 03:10 AM
- - Godspeed2012   On the topic of Shills, disnfo, and all that prete...   Mar 4 2014, 01:52 PM
|- - Godspeed2012   This thread is not about Radars, or the twin tower...   Mar 4 2014, 01:56 PM
- - Scooby   My two cents on the crater the official report s...   Mar 11 2014, 01:16 PM


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