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Wtc Elevators & Oprah's Failure

paulmichael
post Jul 9 2012, 04:17 PM
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Oprah should have researched the elevator set-up in the World Trade Center towers before she went ahead and made more than a fool of herself in front of her worldwide T.V. audience, but, hey, here's a proverb for you: when they like you, you can do no wrong; when they don't like you, you can do no right.

Moving on…(I'll get to the elevator issue, later, below.)

After 9/11, Oprah Winfrey dedicated most of her shows to that fateful day. She had, as guests, several people from the ground who claimed to have had phone conversations with people aboard United Airlines flight #93, during the hijacking of that plane before it crashed in Pennsylvania. YET OPRAH DID NOT HAVE A SINGLE PERSON FROM THE GROUND WHO HAD PHONE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE ABOARD THE OTHER THREE FLIGHTS THAT SUPPOSEDLY ENDED BY CRASHING INTO BUILDINGS... EVEN THOUGH SUCH PHONE CALLS ALLEGEDLY TOOK PLACE!

THEN months and months later, Oprah had, as a guest, a woman claiming to be from an American Airlines reservation center and claiming to have gotten a call from a flight attendant aboard doomed flight AA11. If you were that flight attendant, would you more likely have called a loved one under the circumstances... would you have been more likely to have called your base supervisor?

Would you attempt to call a reservationist, of all people, to scream, "WE'VE JUST BEEN HIJACKED," when reservationists get loads of crank calls especially at 3 o'clock which is called by reservationists, "the kiddie hour," when the little devils get out of school and have too much time on their hands?

Go, go, go and call American Airlines' reservation number at 1-800-433-7300 at about 8:00 AM on a weekday and see what it's like! Sit and listen to the computerized menus with which you will be confronted before you get to be put on hold to speak to someone, then you come back to me, and tell me that Oprah's guest was credible. INCREDIBLE!

Oprah had yet another 9/11 guest, a woman who supposedly had been horribly burned at the World Trade Center.

This guest's story was that she was simply entering one of the towers to report for work. It must have been the north tower. It couldn't have been the south tower because under the circumstances which she described, people by then would have been evacuating in herds from the south tower due to the event that occurred 15-20 minutes earlier at the north tower.

This "burn victim" claimed to be unaware of what was going on (surprisingly and apparently oblivious to the roar of aircraft engines and the boom of the initial impact above). At this point there were two possible scenarios: either many people like her were still entering the lobby of the tower or a big time evacuation was already underway. Either way, many people would have been in the lobby. I've been in the ground floor lobbies of both towers. They were very expansive with people milling about in all directions. THE ELEVATOR BANKS WERE QUITE FAR FORM ALL THE DOORS TO THE LOBBIES WHETHER THOSE DOORS WERE FROM THE STREET OR FROM THE INSIDE CONCOURSE.

This "burn victim" claimed that a fireball came from a distant elevator shaft and that this was what was responsible for her horrible burns as she entered the tower, with the further claim that aviation fuel fell down an elevator shaft from up where the plane crashed into the building, and then that fuel exploded at the ground floor. (The planes' fuel tanks should have burst like water balloons with fireballs going backwards for the most part OUTSIDE THE BUILDINGS!)

That must have been one heck of a highly focused fireball to roast just one victim at a distance without toasting anyone else's buns in what was probably, as usual, a very busy lobby. She must have been blasted by a flamethrower - this makes far more sense!

No other witnesses claimed to have seen this fireball.

Why weren't the EMTs who rescued this woman on "Oprah" when EMTs had appeared on "Oprah" in other cases?

To what hospital was this burn victim taken?

Why weren't her hero doctors featured on "Oprah," again, as had been done in many other cases.

Oprah did have a minor follow-up segment about how well this woman has been getting along with improvement to her disfigured face and other injuries.

Oprah really knows how to work an audience. Man, oh, man, there really is something to the "Oprah Effect!" Anyone who has had success at selling something can swear by the "Oprah Effect!"

Now, for those of you who believe the "burn victim's" story, can you please explain how fiery jet fuel found its way from the 90th story of the WTC tower down to the main lobby? Did it make its way to a local elevator shaft, and then, from there, make its way to the upper skylobby where it transferred to an express elevator shaft to the lower skylobby where it transferred to yet another express elevator shaft down to the street level lobby WHERE IT SAID TO ITSELF: THIS IS WHERE I GET OFF EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SEVEN LOWER LEVELS BELOW THE MAIN LOBBY???

Was the "burn victim" credible? I say, "NOT!"

[Author's note: this author stayed at a high rise hotel in the Condado section of San Jun Puerto Rico circa 1976. Sometime later, this hotel was renamed the "Dupont Plaza Hotel." Then, in 1986, there was a labor dispute at this hotel. Someone ignited a sofa in the lobby. The flames escalated and got out of control. A huge fireball shot into the casino. Some people were burned to death. Others escaped the casino with many injured, BUT THERE WERE WITNESSES TO THIS FIREBALL! Where are the witnesses to the alleged fireball in the WTC tower's lobby?]

On 9/11, there was yet another story of a burn victim near the WTC reported on the televised news. This one supposedly was waiting on a sidewalk at a bus stop and was struck by flaming jet fuel from above. A little while later, the news anchor reported that she had died. Ten years later, just before the anniversary of 9/11, The Daily News gave a rundown of 9/11 fatalities which included about a half-dozen souls who succumbed to dust outside the WTC, but no mention was made of the alleged fatality who was burned at a bus stop. There's a saying: if you are going to be a liar, you'd better have a good memory.

Conclusion: the above tales of burning jet fuel at the WTC were totally bogus… and I state further that I have my very strong doubts that the three flights that allegedly crashed into buildings on 9/11 ever existed to begin with.

In late June, 2011, issue was raised on USENET with Oprah's bogus guests. Then, on July 1, 2011, a USENET posting, soon to be sanitized off the net mysteriously, mentioned Marc Rich, the Russians and some local goodfellas in the context of 9/11.

Then, it seemed that Oprah, too, did a prolonged disappearing act starting just weeks before the 10th anniversary of 9/11 as was the case with many politicos, this having been in conjunction with a virtual news blackout of all things 9/11 up to September 7th or so just prior to that 10th anniversary.

For more information on this, please read the thread entitled: "Joseph Solari, a Now-Deceased Bronx Goodfella (9/11 Connection??)" in the Alternative Theories forum.

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post Jul 11 2012, 10:51 AM
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Yep, yep, Oprah really slipped-up.

But, then again, Oprah's phenomenal success has not been attributable to her I.Q. but to her E.Q.

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post Jul 13 2012, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE (paulmichael @ Jul 9 2012, 03:17 PM) *
Now, for those of you who believe the "burn victim's" story, can you please explain how fiery jet fuel found its way from the 90th story of the WTC tower down to the main lobby? Did it make its way to a local elevator shaft, and then, from there, make its way to the upper skylobby where it transferred to an express elevator shaft to the lower skylobby where it transferred to yet another express elevator shaft down to the street level lobby WHERE IT SAID TO ITSELF: THIS IS WHERE I GET OFF EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SEVEN LOWER LEVELS BELOW THE MAIN LOBBY???


Flaming jet fuel taking a disjointed path down three elevator shafts would have to make its way around three elevator cars (well, at least two).

How would it manage to do this?

BTW, clean-up workers at the WTC site said that they came upon no desks, no phones, no computers, no carpeting and such. What ever happened to dozens of elevator cables and the counterbalancing weights to which they were attached? What happened to hundreds of restroom faucets and flush controls of toilets? Actually, there were probably on the order of 2,000+ such plumbing fixtures.

All these things must have gone the way 47 massive steel girders 117 stories tall for each WTC tower went - "Gone With the Wind" as demolecularized dust.

In a video, Judy Wood explained that a gravitational collapse of a building results in a pile of debris 12% as high as the original structure. There should have been 13 stories of debris for each tower. Make that 6 stories of debris if the official story (disputed) that most debris landed down in the seven lower levels of the towers. Check out photos of ground zero after the "separation" of the WTC towers. Some debris jutted upwards barely one story high.

For more information on this, please read the thread entitled: "Joseph Solari, a Now-Deceased Bronx Goodfella (9/11 Connection??)" in the Alternative Theories forum.

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