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Stuart
post Jul 9 2008, 02:36 PM
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Hi all,

I decided to join the forum based on what i'd heard, via many sources, about this site and its sterling work.

Despite my display name, I am very serious about 9/11 and have been most frustrated by the seeming stupidity or willing inability to face facts by most people over that day in 2001. 9/11 was an inside job. Period.

Anyone with any degree of sense and objectivity can see that by looking at evidence for less than a day.

I look forward to meeting and discussing related topics with you all as I feel that I just can't ignore the truth and the enormity of it's significance by not continuing to learn and try and educate others.

I'll suss out the lay of the land before I reveal which bits I agree with or don't agree with in the movement, but look forward to open honest debate thumbsup.gif

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post Jul 9 2008, 02:49 PM
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Welcome to Pilots. We're more about research than debate here, but we do have a forum for that.
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post Jul 9 2008, 02:53 PM
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Thanks for the welcome. Gosh there's lots to look at ohmy.gif

I need to find my way around for a couple of days, but i'll get the gist i'm sure.

Hey, just noticed that you're a RUSH fan Oceans flow. Excellent taste.

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post Jul 9 2008, 03:59 PM
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Hello and welcome Stuart. Do you have a preference on short-hand for your username (I noticed that the initials could be slightly "sensitive"). I'm terribly frequent to use shorthand there I know.

Be sure to check out the Library- the Library staff has done some excellent work over the years.
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post Jul 9 2008, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (Condoleezza Rice Pudding @ Jul 7 2008, 04:36 PM) *
Despite my display name,

Cripes! With that latest addition to my sig gallery I thought I had caught the real deal when I saw your user name pop up here, after all she could have double bluffed by using real name. laughing1.gif

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post Jul 9 2008, 05:24 PM
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If changing my Display name will help then feel free.

CondiRicePud perhaps? Even Condi! Do you think a more serious name would be better?

I only chose the name as I like rice pudding but I don't like Condoleezza in the slightest. Her lies made me maddest actually.

Thanks for the welcome folks. Glad to be here. noob.gif
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post Jul 9 2008, 05:46 PM
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Welcome Pud.

As you say, it is pretty obvious for anyone who is happy to think for themselves. But most people prefer others to think for them and if those thinking people don't think it was an inside job ..........
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post Jul 9 2008, 08:47 PM
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Welcome to the forum Stuart.


And yes, please shorten the name.. (thanks dMole).
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post Jul 10 2008, 03:48 AM
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QUOTE (KP50 @ Jul 9 2008, 02:46 PM) *
Welcome Pud.
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I like it. That's perfect.


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post Jul 10 2008, 03:56 AM
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QUOTE (Condoleezza Rice Pudding @ Jul 6 2008, 11:53 AM) *
Hey, just noticed that you're a RUSH fan Oceans flow.


Yes I am, and I've been know to post lyrics from time to time. spin.gif
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post Jul 10 2008, 04:00 AM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jul 10 2008, 01:47 AM) *
Welcome to the forum Stuart.


And yes, please shorten the name.. (thanks dMole).



Errr..... can you tell me how please Rob, I can't see how to shorten my Display name.

If you can , please change it to Stuart (less amusing but easier) - or I suppose Pud)

Sorry for the hassle


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post Jul 10 2008, 04:18 AM
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QUOTE (Condoleezza Rice Pudding @ Jul 10 2008, 02:00 AM) *
Errr..... can you tell me how please Rob, I can't see how to shorten my Display name.

If you can , please change it to Stuart (less amusing but easier) - or I suppose Pud)

Sorry for the hassle


Stuart

I quite liked the joke (and I think that Condi's brain case might just be full of rice pudding- we know what it definitely doesn't contain.)

I think we'll need one of the Admins to change to your user name to Stuart (or to change mine for that matter- that has been expressed before here too, so I "feel" where you're at there). I might be stuck with my username a year+ later in the 911 research though.

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post Jul 10 2008, 04:43 AM
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I like your username, but it displays in the posts without the pudding part. idea.gif
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post Jul 10 2008, 11:47 AM
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Thanks for the Name change....... thumbsup.gif

The Artist formerly known as Condoleezza Rice Pudding


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post Jul 10 2008, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (Stuart @ Jul 8 2008, 01:47 PM) *
Thanks for the Name change....... thumbsup.gif

The Artist formerly known as Condoleezza Rice Pudding


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I quite liked Pud!
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post Jul 10 2008, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (heliweli @ Jul 10 2008, 06:08 PM) *
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I quite liked Pud!
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Thanks. Well, let's hope it doesn't stick whistle.gif

Anyhoo, I wanted to "discuss" a topic with some of you fine folks and I don't really know where to do it. I want to talk through some of the "no plane vs Missiles" ideas with a few people to see if my logic (and Physics) is sound.

I'm kind of moved toward writing an essay/book/something at the moment to gather my thoughts because I believe I have an idea on how to appeal to certain people who just don't get it (or more likely - want to get it) regarding 9/11.

I've been convinced about 9/11 since 2005. Since then i've seen lots of articles, viewed lots of videos and listened to teems of podcasts but I feel I need a sounding board or two to help me firm up my ideas as ultimately, i'd like to try to help in some real way instead of just "passively re-confirming my belief" all the time.


Any suggestions as to where I can get started?
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post Jul 10 2008, 03:18 PM
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Well, 'no plane vs missiles' in what context? Are you talking about New York or the Pentagon?

In general this website is about the airplanes said to have been hijacked on 9/11. I guess you might say that we operate under the assumption that there were airplanes involved in the scenario, though there are members of the forum who believe otherwise. Whether or not they were the specified airliners is not clear. The government has not officially identified any of the four.

As you know, some people claim that those were not airplanes at all, but rather something else, like holograms or video trickery. Generally, we ask that that assertion be made in the Alternative Theories subforum of Research.

Maybe start your thread there, and it can be moved if it belongs elsewhere.
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post Jul 10 2008, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Jul 10 2008, 08:18 PM) *
Well, 'no plane vs missiles' in what context? Are you talking about New York or the Pentagon?

In general this website is about the airplanes said to have been hijacked on 9/11. I guess you might say that we operate under the assumption that there were airplanes involved in the scenario, though there are members of the forum who believe otherwise. Whether or not they were the specified airliners is not clear. The government has not officially identified any of the four.

As you know, some people claim that those were not airplanes at all, but rather something else, like holograms or video trickery. Generally, we ask that that assertion be made in the Alternative Theories subforum of Research.

Maybe start your thread there, and it can be moved if it belongs elsewhere.


Thanks for the guidance. My wish is to be respectful of other people's views primarily, but to keep on asking questions based on what is common sense, what I know or suspect and learning from others knowledge of their specialist area. thumbsup.gif

I'll take my chances and start there. salute.gif Wish me luck, i'm going in....

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post Jul 10 2008, 06:26 PM
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Sorry to say it... but I can't see any Alternative Theories forum. Help please.
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post Jul 10 2008, 06:55 PM
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Stuart,
Last year I did a photography project on the Patriot Act. Got 83% for it. It is a sarcastic view. If you are interested would be willing to exchange ideas.
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