Zeitgeist Addendum [ II ], The Revolution Is Now Options

[liberty-911]

Point One, me, myself and I, joined the Armed Forces in 1969

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will Support and Defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;

First, stand with me to Support and Defend our Constitution by Indicting the Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Ben Bernanke, and U.S. Treasury Chairman Henry Paulson, among others for crimes against the U.S. Constitution.

I just received a letter from the IRS that claims I have not filed my 2006 individual tax return.

Their records are correct; I have not filed in 2006 or 2007 and claim 10 dependence for both years.

The word "INTEREST" or "IRS" or "Federal Reserve Bank" are not found in the U.S. Constitution and I want a "Jury Trial" to Defend my oath to Support and Defend the U.S. Constitution.

Once the U.S. Constitution is restored to the Original "CONTRACT" Congress or State Conventions can make Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and, Abolish Gold and Silver Coin, Abolish Laws, and Abolish Government, by State Legislators or by State Conventions Ratification, read Article V, 75% of State Legislators or 75% of State Conventions are reguired by the Supreme Law to Alter or Abolish anything written in the U.S. Constitution.

Otherwise, over my dead body, because of my Oath.

I agree with 50% of the concepts presented in this video, but first "WE" must bring Justice to the Criminals still in Office for their Crimes aganist the U.S. Constitution.

This post has been edited by liberty-911: Oct 10 2008, 09:58 PM

[Wingmaster05]

Jacque Fresco's 'The Venus Project: The Redesign of a Culture' is from 1994.
http://www.thevenusproject.com/

IMO it's an illusion.
A very nice illusion though.

Jacque Fresco is a remarkable person - countless designs, inventions and patents, but totally ignoring one fundamental thing:
The psyche of the human species.

If anything the 'Venus Project' is viable for a very small, carefully selected elite. For the chosen few.
And not for 6,7 billions.

Sorry to rain on your parade
Zap

No rain on this parade. I need to fill in the gaps that the movie made for me and I also just have newer reading material that i wasn't expecting. The idea was incredible but i didnt say it was a savior that is outside of critical observation.


So you basically want the crash to occur, with much of the population of the world at risk? I have tacitly held this view, that the crash was necessary for the cleansing of the human soul (something like that). Now I'm not so sure.

Zap, do you have any reservations against a resource based economy? Or against the idea that we can simply bypass their media systems by simply boycotting their bullshit companies? That couldn't be more logical imo. Let's congregate all this information being researched and begin identifying which companies exactly further our problems and refuse to participate in their game. Sounds like a good starting ground to me.

[Timothy Osman]

I watched it yesterday afternoon and just like the first it was like my 16 bit brain was receiving a 64 bit data stream.
I then drove to the shop to get some milk and John Lennon's Imagine was on the radio, hows that for timing.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg

[lunk]

There are thousands of ways we can go,
but the way we are going now, is ending.
Humanity will go into a new era, the existing
money based system is collapsing.

What exactly is a resource based economy? A non-static utopia?
It sounds nice, but how does it function?
How do we get from here to there?


Everybody lives like kings and the elite live better, too?
...Hmm...
I don't know, words like interdependence, governance, think-tanks,
I find a little unsettling.
...and isn't Venus, the bearer of light, have another name, too?

This still looks like a better replacement culture than the faulty one we're in now.

imo, lunk

[rob balsamo]

I watched it yesterday afternoon and just like the first it was like my 16 bit brain was receiving a 64 bit data stream.
I then drove to the shop to get some milk and John Lennon's Imagine was on the radio, hows that for timing.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg

Thank you, thank you.. THANK YOU!

I been looking everywhere for a good copy of this video with the best part at the end... the kiss....

The embed is going in the music video section now...

Thank you...

(by the way folks, John would have been 68 this Thurs Oct 9, 2008)

Happy Birthday John!

[Sanders]

G. Edward Griffin comments on Zeitgeist Addendum:

Posted @ DailyPaul
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/68154

I don't like to criticize anything that is helping to spread the truth about the Federal Reserve and 9/11 but I must agree with the substance of what you have said about this video. I watched it two nights ago and was deeply disturbed by its message. At first, I thought it would be best to just let it play itself out in expectation that most viewers would cross it off as whacky. However, the production value is high, the effects and sound score are compelling, and there is enough truth embedded in the beginning to capture the attention and possibly the trust of many within the freedom movement. So here are my comments on a few items of concern:

1. The information about the Federal Reserve is, for the most part, right on target. However, I practically fell out of my chair when the program repeated that old, silly argument about the Fed not creating enough money to cover the cost of interest on debt; and, therefore, the world must forever be in debt. I knew right there that the writer did not read The Creature from Jekyll Island or, if he did, he forgot my analysis of this common myth. For those who are interested in that topic, it is fund on pages 191-192 of The Creature.

2. The next jolt came when the program praised Civil War Greenbacks, calling them debt-free. Actually, Greenbacks were contrary to the U.S. Constitution and, although they were not fiat money issued by the
banks, they were fiat money issued by the government. That was better than paying interest on nothing to bankers, but they still wiped out the purchasing power of American money through massive inflation. They can not correctly be called debt-free, either, because they represented debt on the shoulders of the government, which means, of course, on the shoulders of the taxpayers. It never ceases to amaze me how people think that the solution to money created out of nothing by those big, bad bankers is to have money created out of nothing by those nice, trustworthy politicians. Yet, that is what this program supports.

3. There is a lengthy segment in which the author of I Was an Economic Hit Man, John Perkins, tells the story of how propagandists in the U.S. manipulated public opinion to support military action against several Latin American countries. Then Perkins says that these propagandists scared Americans by telling them that the leaders of these countries were Marxists who were aligned with the Soviets. This, of course, is a half truth that is just as dangerous as a total lie. It is true about the propagandists and
their strategy to scare the public into supporting military intervention in those countries, but it is false to portray those dictators as great humanitarians who cared only for the well being of their people. That is total bunk. They WERE aligned with the Soviet Union and they WERE part of a Marxist/Leninist strategy to dominate Latin America; a strategy that continues to this day.

There was plenty not to like on both sides of that struggle, but objective historians would never depict the Rhodesians (the CFR crowd in the U.S.) as bad guys but depict the Soviet puppets as good guys. In his book, Perkins reveals this same slant. He exposes the foul tactics of international corporations, the IMF, and World Bank, but he never mentions a Leftist dictator, such as Fidel Castro or Hugo Chavez without praising them. Perkins is a collectivist aligned with the Left, and that strongly influences his telling of this story. Yet the producers of the video make no mention of this bias and give him an inordinate amount of time to present his slanted view without challenge.

4. Perhaps the biggest insult to our intelligence is the main theme of the program. It is that profits are the root of all our problems today. That being the case, we must change mankind to reject profit and we must work together on some other basis. It is never quite clear what that basis is, but, whatever it is, it will be administered and directed by an elite group, at least in the beginning. I was stunned by the fact that this is pure Marxism. Mark theorized that people had to be re-educated (in labor camps, if necessary) to cleanse their minds of the profit motive. He and his disciples, such as Lenin and Stalin and Khruschev, said that, eventually, the character of man would be purged of greed, and then the state would wither away because it no longer would be needed. Sure! We saw that in the Soviet Union and China, right? Yet this Marxist nonsense is exactly what is offered in this video program. It is Communism without using the name.

The profit motive is neither good nor bad. It can be applied either way depending on social and political factors. The desire for profit is merely the desire to be compensated for our labor, our creativity, our knowledge, or even for our risk. Without profit, very little would be accomplished in the world - not even if everyone spent a few years in labor camps to be re-educated. It is a basic part of man's nature and is the mainspring of human progress, as Henry Grady Weaver described it in his book by that same title. Throughout history, whenever man lived in a system that allows him to be rewarded for his work, there has been great productivity and abundance. By contrast, where social engineers gained control of the state and restricted people from receiving the fruits of their labor, productivity fell, and scarcity was the norm.

The profit motive functions differently in different political systems. In a free system where government does not intervene in the market place, the profit motive always will manifest itself as competition, each person or each company trying to deliver better quality products and services at lower prices. That was how it used to be in the early days of America, and that is what led to the greatest outpouring of productivity and abundance the world has ever seen. However, in a collectivist system where government controls every conceivable aspect of economic and commercial activity (the system that now exists in America), the profit motive always manifests itself as a quest for political influence and laws to favor one group over another. The net effect is to eliminate competition in the market place. Under collectivism, success is achieved, not by creating better products and services for less cost, but by controlling legislators and government agencies. It is a system of legalized plunder, as Frederic Bastiat called it in his famous treatise, The Law. Unfortunately, it is the system that dominates most of the world today.

Zeitgeist Addendum ignores this reality. At one point the narrator even says that the greatest evil in the world today is "the free enterprise system." That's an incredible statement, especially inasmuch as the free enterprise system has been dead for several decades. It lives in name only. The whole world now is in the grips of non-competitive monopolies and cartels that have forged partnerships with governments. All of the evils to which this program alludes are the result, not of the free enterprise system, but of
the abandonment of free enterprise and the adoption of collectivism. This program creates a mythological boogeyman and then advocates more of the very thing that has brought us to the mess we are in today.

The enemy of mankind is not profit. It is a political system of big government. Yet, this program is supportive of some of the most notable big-government collectivist on the planet. Marxist/Leninists may be enemies of collectivists in Washington, DC, but they are collectivists in their own right. The Communist model is no better than the Nazi model.

There is much more that could be said about other program topics such as technology supposedly being our salvation, about the a future world in which no one has to work, and about common ownership of land, oceans, natural resources, etc. but, for the most part, these merely are sub issues to the ones already described, so I will spare my readers the pain of further discourse.
In summary, this program does NOT offer a cure. It offers a mega dose of the disease itself.

Ed Griffin, 2008 Oct 9

[Timothy Osman]

Would Mr Griffin be a religious sort of person? Just trying to evaluate the critique.

[albertchampion]

i can only surmise concerning his religious orientation.

but he gets the cuban situation so wrong that you might want to question all of his historicism.

[Sanders]

Would Mr Griffin be a religious sort of person? Just trying to evaluate the critique.

I don't know T.O., but I've never heard him talk about religion. He shouldn't be confused with David Griffin, who is a Theologian. Edward Griffin wrote the Creature from Jeckyll Island and, in his defense, has been writing and speaking out against tyranny in the US longer than anyone I think. Also, Griffin interviewed Norman Dodd before he passed away, and that is a must-see interview about the tax-free organizations.

I embedded a video of a lecture Griffin gave entitled, 'An Idea Who's Time Has Come' in a post I made titled 'Heaven's Gate'. Here -

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=15061

I think that lecture will give anyone a good feel for where he is coming from. Above it is a long post I wrote that starts off talking about a movie flop from 1980 ... but which is really about the corruption of the free market system and dovetails into Griffin's lecture. (I identify the beginning of what Griffin refers to as "the pirates taking over the ship" at around the early 1890's when lawyers like Elihu Root began to undermine liberty in the US using the legal system. Something similar was happening at the same time in Wyoming at the local level, which is why I used Heaven's Gate as a vehicle.)

Anyway, I thought Griffin made some good points regarding the new Zeitgeist piece and I thought I'd post his letter to offer a different viewpoint.

[Timothy Osman]

I don't know T.O., but I've never heard him talk about religion. He shouldn't be confused with David Griffin

That's who came to my mind when I first saw the post, I did then realize it was the other Griffin on account of my sobriety. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

IMO the new Zeitgeist tries to present a solution with a look at an ideal future, that future is way way across a very deep and wide chasm.

[lunk]

Throughout history, whenever man lived in a system that allows him to be rewarded for his work, there has been great productivity and abundance. By contrast, where social engineers gained control of the state and restricted people from receiving the fruits of their labor, productivity fell, and scarcity was the norm.

This is the key point, productivity and abundance
means a loss of power and control by the elite.
In order to retain power,
they must recreate an environment where
scarcity is the norm.

not lacking in inspiration,
just incentives.
imo, lunk

(edit) I should say positive incentives

This post has been edited by lunk: Oct 10 2008, 02:57 AM

[Sanders]

That's who came to my mind when I first saw the post, I did then realize it was the other Griffin on account of my sobriety. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

IMO the new Zeitgeist tries to present a solution with a look at an ideal future, that future is way way across a very deep and wide chasm.

I think you put it very well.

I thought the flick was very good in its way and I liked it, but I was a little perplexed by the utopian ideas. I'm still trying to keep an open mind about it ... but I think Griffin makes a really good point - that the 'free market system' per-se hasn't existed in the US for a very long time. That's the point of my Heaven's Gate post, that's why I mentioned it. It's ironic that I chose to include Griffin's speech in that. Something bothered me about the Zeitgeist flick, it's when the Venus organization guy states that it is a myth that without competition people would have little incentive. I'm a pretty creative-type guy, I work in the music business. But I know that if I didn't have to make a living I'd just sit around on my @ss. I know, because in between jobs that's exactly what I do (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . I only get up off that @ss when my checking account starts to empty!

[Timothy Osman]

I'm a pretty creative-type guy, I work in the music business. But I know that if I didn't have to make a living I'd just sit around on my @ss. I know, because in between jobs that's exactly what I do

Funny I had trouble with the Utopian model they presented because everything was made out of shiny metal. Someone has to dig that stuff up and or at least maintain the robot miner by putting blacktack on his gears and greasing his bum joint. I'm not volunteering to ever go underground again without a substantial incentive.

[lunk]

Machines will build machines that will scour the Earth for aluminum and recycle it all, into newer machines.
Artificial intelligence computers will suggest to us what we want to do, before we even think about it.

As the industrial revolution levered our physical muscles, computing technology has levered our brains and will continue to increase in its' leverage, until our brains are insignificant to the lever.
...according to my calculator.

So, in the future we can look forward to, not only, not physically working,
but not having to think, either.

There are some who say this has already happened.

Not yet,
imo, lunk

[Nunyabiz]

Griffin is enough of a religious nut that he actually believes that Noah's Ark and the story surrounding it were REAL and not mythical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCvzGr7h1g

Then again David Griffin is also a religious nut.

I liken this to serial killers in a way. They are able to compartmentalize the beast within while remaining seemingly sane in society.
Religious nuts are capable of moments of sanity even brilliance but there is always that hidden lunacy within you have to watch for.

[Wingmaster05]

Nunyabiz beat me to it. Griffin is a Christian and I am intrigued enough to read his Noah's ark book because both The Creature From Jekyll Island and his book A World Without Cancer: The Story of Vitamin b17 were very good. My guess is that his third book about Noah's Ark will tell us what we need to know about his belief system.

That's who came to my mind when I first saw the post, I did then realize it was the other Griffin on account of my sobriety. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

IMO the new Zeitgeist tries to present a solution with a look at an ideal future, that future is way way across a very deep and wide chasm.

It's synchronicitous to me that you mention a chasm because G. Edward Griffin uses that word to further describe the difference of collectivism and individualism. See Link.



I couldn't find much at all about the Venus Project accept some links to donate to them or buy dvds to get information. Blah. It is certainly utopian and it requires both an individuals internal motivation to 'work' constructively and a complete trust in global unity (which some refer to as communism). Do you think it's possible to work for the sake of growth and not for money? I thought the ideas presented about money as the unneccessary middle man were truthful...


Remember, this video shouldn't be used to just endorse the Venus Project.

Check off what you agree as some of his solutions to our problems:

Expose the Federal Reserve cartel
- boycott the banks you suspect or know are the prime suspects of the Tag Name "The elite banksters"

Turn off the corporate news media
- boycott them all and embrace other dissident forms of news media
- protect the internet as a top priority for it is what is connecting us all

boycott the military
- withdraw support if you are currently working for them

Boycott the energy companies
-do indepedent searching for alternative energy and 'off the grid' living
-easier than expected; you have to willing to try things first

Boycott the Political system
- "The illusion of democracy is an insult to our intelligence"-LOL
- he suggests trying to reform politics around this "savior technology" idea

So...who agrees with these suggestions in defeating the NWO? This, IMO, is the strongest part about the documentary. All of these conspiracy doc's we see cover very specific events and data...which is perfectly fine. Deep research on specific topics is of course needed. But finally, a 'big picture' video that spells out practical ways to voice your dissent and bring forth meaningful action!

[painter]

There is a lot on this thread I'd like to respond to but I have very little time these days. Moreover, a lot of it is a bit 'over my head'. As I've indicated in times past, being an "artist", my tendency is to get a sense of the big picture. However, I'm often admittedly fuzzy on the details.

In brief:

1: I appreciate this video as an educational tool even if it is not factually accurate in every detail. I think this is often the case whether out of ignorance on the part of the author or out of having an agenda. I also appreciate as noted in above posts that there is at least an attempt to a) generate a sense of hopefulness and optimism that something *can* be done, b) offering a vision of what *can* be done and c) putting forward specific things we can do *now*.

2: I appreciate Griffin's critique and suspect he may be right in certain instances but, as with ZII, not in all. Being someone who has lived and studied the world from what most of you here would consider a "leftist" POV, it is interesting to note that I have both a "fear" of "big government" AND an "unregulated free market." Beyond that I do not believe that "individuals" exist except conceptually. This is a philosophical point that would require a lot of back and forth to clarify with anyone who holds an opposing view. Suffice it to say that I don't see anything in reality that exists independently of other things. All living organisms require interaction with an environment -- and environments are complex systems. Life on planet Earth is dependent upon energy from the Sun -- and this fact harkens back to where ZI began: The significance of solar deities in ancient mythology and cosmology.

3: I take the whole section on the Venus Project in ZII not as an indorsement of a specific "solution" but, rather, an introduction to the possibility that human creativity and ingenuity *can* be turned toward solving many of the problems we face today -- regardless of the specific "project" form. I think this is generally correct. We need to a) have a clear sense of where we are; b) have a vision of where we'd like to be; and c) figure out how to get from here to there. ZII is offering an example of a "vision" of what *may be* possible.

4: Questions of Capitalism vs Communism get tricky because there is so much confusion about what either one is. Are we a Capitalist society? I don't think so. Has there ever been a genuinely Communist society? I don't think so. Debt based capital markets controlled by international banking systems are not "free market capitalism" (IMO). As was stated in ZII the empire we live in is "corportocracy" -- a dictatorship of international corporate (banking) interests. Equally, "politburo dictatorships" are not Communism. I also question the whole notion of "profit" -- something which I think needs to be explored. Currently (for example) we do not account for the social and environmental costs of products exchanged within the system. And we do not because "profit" is defined solely as an economic bottom line. When the COSTS of social and environmental degradation are figured into the acquisition, production, marketing, purchasing and disposal of products (and some services) it becomes quite clear that "profit" is an illusion -- precisely the kind of economic illusion that has gotten us where we are. WE ALL BARE THESE COSTS -- by living and procreating in an environment that is increasingly degraded (rather than enriched), regimented and, ultimately, militarized.

5: As a "know nothing" artist, I've been suggesting for a long time that what we need is a completely *knew* economic system -- one that doesn't rely on the STAGED (IMO) DIALECTIC between so-called Capitalism and so-called Communism (Left/Right Colectivist/Individualist paradigm). My hair-brained thinking along these lines suggests that what is needed is an economic system that parallels the kind of energy exchanges we see in nature. This, again, is one of the things that ZII points to: The possibility of ABUNDANT ENERGY -- and more generally to the possibility of a human social environment based on abundance rather than scarcity. I think this is a VERY important paradigm shift that many have difficulty conceiving. Solar and thermal energy are abundant on this planet and that the technology needed to harness and distribute it was not developed in the last half of the previous century (especially after 1970) is a DIRECT RESULT of an elite not wanting to allow free-market energy. It is very clear why: It would undermine their wealth and hegemony (centralized control and power). Back in the 1970s it was said repeatedly that the idea of building and restricting the infrastructure of an advanced technological civilization on nonrenewable hydrocarbon energy sources was not only a "bad" idea but would ultimately lead to PRECISELY the kind of economic, environmental and political DISASTER we see unfolding around us as I write. Yep, this was all foreseen and foretold more than 30 years ago by some of the most creative thinkers of the time -- and they were shut down by an economic establishment that wanted no part of it and (rightly) perceived it as a threat to an outmoded social/economic system.

What I'm suggesting is an economic system based on an "environmental" model where the system parallels the energy exchanges we see take place in the natural world around us. It would begin, I think, with the awareness that we are, fundamentally, transformers of energy. All living things transform the energy in their immediate environments for purposes of survival and procreation. The system builds in natural limits to population growth and requires ever increasing diversity within the overall system, thus guaranteeing the survival of the whole system as a system. Such a system as I'm envisioning (vaguely, I admit) would substitute the potential for "enrichment" over the illusion of "profit" as a motivating source. "Enrichment" means win/win always and is not limited to "economics." This is something that is very clear to me as an artist but I often find it difficult to get people who don't think of themselves as artists to 'grasp'. My motivation as an artist is NOT profit but enrichment. From a strictly economic perspective, creating my art has NEVER been "profitable" and, from the strict perspective of a business I should have closed up shop long ago. However, from the point of view of "enrichment" everything looks quite differently. I am enriched by my creative activity and so are those who interact with it. The same thing can be pointed toward here on this forum and elsewhere -- we do what we do here not because we PROFIT from it (financially) but because we are 'fed' by it or 'enriched' by it because we hold values that are not quantifiable in solely economic terms.

I don't have time for more now but hopefully this will be enough to be of interest to some of you.

[Sanders]

EDIT: Apparently painter and I cross posted. This is my take on this, not a response to painter's above, which I (as usual) found illuminating.

Check off what you agree as some of his solutions to our problems:

Expose the Federal Reserve cartel
- boycott the banks you suspect or know are the prime suspects of the Tag Name "The elite banksters"

Turn off the corporate news media
- boycott them all and embrace other dissident forms of news media
- protect the internet as a top priority for it is what is connecting us all

boycott the military
- withdraw support if you are currently working for them

Boycott the energy companies
-do indepedent searching for alternative energy and 'off the grid' living
-easier than expected; you have to willing to try things first

Boycott the Political system
- "The illusion of democracy is an insult to our intelligence"-LOL
- he suggests trying to reform politics around this "savior technology" idea

So...who agrees with these suggestions in defeating the NWO? This, IMO, is the strongest part about the documentary...

I wholeheartedly agree. A big thumbs up on all those points!

However I can't agree that money as a "middleman" is unnecessary. Money, when it is sound, keeps people honest. There will always be a temptation to cheat, there will always be cheaters, and the less safeguards there are against cheating the more cheaters there will be ... anyone who has looked into game theory and the roots of altruism in society and things like that knows exactly what I'm talking about. To deny it, to imagine that there would be initiative in a society to do the work without some trying to cheat and get a free ride without some sort of equalizer like money is naive. The problem with the modern system is that money is no longer sound, it is designed so that those at the top can cheat. I think for all of Peter's wisdom and intuitiveness and intelligence and film making talents, he is off the mark on this point, as is the Venus Project. And, I'm suspicious of any organization like that which names itself after a planet, too much baggage ... ESPECIALLY Venus, the morning star, the harbinger of the sun, otherwise known as LUCIFER. ... Probably those people didn't connect themselves nomenclaturitavely to the "banksters" and the various secret societies of history on purpose, but it creeped me out when I saw "the Venus Project" on the screen.

And while I'm bashing Peter Joseph, I might as well get it all out. The first section (about religion) in his first film is full of misinformation. For the record, I agree that he is basically correct in his assertions about the Egyptian solar-cult roots of much of the symbology and story details of the Christ figure. But he doesn't get the whole picture IMO, he lumps the designers of the Christian religion in with the bankers and war-makers of our society when in fact the two were in a general sense opposing forces in the back-rooms of history, in effect, he appears to be unaware of a separate force in western society, one which passed from Mesopotamia through the Greek theatre straight up into Europe, bypassing Egypt altogether. I talk about this in detail in my dragon thread, and this is why Peter, while being essentially correct IMO in his conclusions, is inclined to fudge facts and lean on questionable sources when he makes his claims about religion.

Everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Including this post. IMHO.

[lunk]

I didn't see any people in the repeated future shot from ZII.

...maybe it should be called ZA

imo, lunk

[liberty-911]

How do we get from here to there?

Point One, me, myself and I, joined the Armed Forces in 1969

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will Support and Defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;

First, stand with me to Support and Defend our Constitution by Indicting the Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Ben Bernanke, and U.S. Treasury Chairman Henry Paulson, among others for crimes against the U.S. Constitution.

I just received a letter from the IRS that claims I have not filed my 2006 individual tax return.

Their records are correct; I have not filed in 2006 or 2007 and claim 10 dependence for both years.

The word "INTEREST" or "IRS" or "Federal Reserve Bank" is not found in the U.S. Constitution and I want a "Jury Trial" to Defend my oath to Support and Defend the U.S. Constitution.

Once the U.S. Constitution is restored to the Original "CONTRACT" Congress or State Conventions can make Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and, Abolish Gold and Silver Coin, Abolish Laws, and Abolish Government, by State Legislators or by State Conventions Ratification, read Article V, 75% of State Legislators or 75% of State Conventions are reguired by the Supreme Law to Alter or Abolish anything written in the U.S. Constitution.

Otherwise, over my dead body, because of my Oath.

I agree with 60% of the concepts presented in this video, but first "WE" must bring Justice to the Criminals still in Office for their Crimes aganist the U.S. Constitution.